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Posted: 8/21/2007 12:40:10 AM EDT
| I see rifles posted "New in box" NIB. How much less would it cost if there wasn't a box? 20% less? |
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$0.02 less. just my $0.02 my "opinion" is that a used rifle with 1000 rnds down the pipe is as good if not better than a new one: you know it works. peoples "perception" is that a used rifle should be cheaper than a new one, akin to driving a new car off the lot and it loses value. Guns aren't cars, and most get better (read increase in value) with age, but I guess perception is sometimes reality... |
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If it was unfired, then the weapon could bring more to a collector. Depending on the weapon of course. I personally do not buy boxes. I buy the gun. If it is used, I could care less about the box but it is a bonus if they still have it. I just do not figure in any extra money. DK |
This seems like it could be a joke question, but I'll answer since it probably ain't. It's not the box that is worth anything it is the rifle. NIB is more of a term used to say the rifle is brand spanking new and never fired and that it comes with its original box. So, to answer your question directly, the value of a new firearm without the box might be 1% less than one with the box. Of course this doesn't count for any older boxed firearms where the value of a box can sometimes be as much if not more valuable than the firearm itself and at this point it matters much less if the firearms is new or used. |
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you know what really drives me nuts? its not the new in box thing... its the "like new in box" wtf is that? seriously. every freaking handgun in the EE says "like new in box". no, your shitty glock with 2000 rounds shot, barrel pitting, is not like new. thats what drives me nuts. its just annoying to see folks false advertising. even at gun shows, some old fart with a colt 1911 will state its like new in box, thinking that its going to make a difference. ITS USED. we get it. but really, i dont care if it has a box or not. i shoot my stuff, although not as much lately. |
Some guns like a WASR it wouldnt matter at all as they come in generic brown boxes anyhow. |
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I know its gunbroker, but look at the Legends on GB. They have new in box ones that sell for $1600.00-1800.00. Then they have used ones that don't sell for $1150.00. Even the stamped Chinese AK's bring in much more if there is a box, used or not. I don't know why, but I think a box does add value, sometimes a lot. I think it has more to do with what type of rifle, the box only adds more value. . |
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I offered up a milled Mak a few years back with the magazines and all accessories. An interested party told me that they MUST have the box with the original styrofoam insert. I told him I may still have it, and would try to dig it up. He offered to up the asking price by $80 just for the box and styrofoam. He was a man of his word! |
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If the firearm is a "normal" shooter, then having the box only adds just a little to the price. However, it does imply that the previous owner was meticulous and more than likely the firearm was kept in the box and not scuffed up in a safe. There is a perception (correct or not) that a firearm in a box is going to be in better shape than one not in the original box. Given a choice of two firearms equally described and close to the same price, I will pick the one with the box. If the firearm is a collector piece, having the original box and all the paperwork makes all the difference in the world. The box is just as much a part of the rifle ensemble as the mag, cleaning rod, etc. Having the original box and everything that went in it could easily add $1k to the price of a high-end collector piece. Most firearm collectors are not as anal as toy collectors (where original packaging can double or triple the price) but I have seen some that were pretty close. |
| i know for many collectibles the original box and paperwork adds value. i see "new in box" thrown around so much for used/old AKs that i thought it was also the case with this market. I would not pay extra for an original box and i would not pay extra for "never fired" weapons. |
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