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Posted: 2/5/2015 1:36:14 AM EDT
| Ok guys I know I have asked this question before but since the sanction on the saiga rifle I am concerned about the life span of my rifle. I have noticed over the years some saiga aks have softer bolts than others. My question is could the hammer beat the tail end of the BOLT (not bolt carrier) until it starts to break firing pins, I noticed mine wearing this way but it has seemed to come to a hault as far as any more wear goes. I apologize again but is there anyone out there that knows the answer to this question. Has anyone shot enough rounds to where the hammer smashed the bolt tail too much to where the firing pins started breaking or anything detrimental to the rifles function or life span. Thank you in advance. |
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Your previous thread is here.
If you're worried about it, buy another bolt. If a saiga is a collector's piece to you, then stop shooting it and buy an SLR-104. |
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Quoted: Your previous thread is here. If you're worried about it, buy another bolt. If a saiga is a collector's piece to you, then stop shooting it and buy an SLR-104. Round 2. Not sure why you didn't just add another post in your other thread that is still open. I'm inclined to lock this thread as a dupe, but I'm giving you another chance. Please don't make this a regular habit. |
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as long as they both have the same bolt shaft diameter then yes, it should work. If it does not, you can buy a new bolt and the proper bolt carrier for the bolt that will work as a spare. You will need to have the headspace checked for the new bolt if you plan to use it for anything other than spare parts. |
Here is an update with photos maybe a mod can inbed it for me.
also has anyone ever heard of a saiga bolt cracking or chipping not that mine is. you see i will shoot this gun to my hear desire and i understand parts will wear, finding a saiga 5.45 bolt is impossible now so I think a bulgy one will work. i can cross that bridge when the time comes for now this is my though on the subjuect. it seems the hammer smashing the bolt tail has slowed or stopped completely, thets say it gets worse, so here is the test i do to see how much it is getting smashed. i pull the mainspring out push the bolt into battery until i get the firing pin to protrude (unloaded of course) i then carefully ride the hammer forward until it rests on the bolt stem, i carefully pull the hammer back and let the trigger hold onto it, i then take a tooth pick and push the firing pin in to see how much it will travel into the bolt after the hammer has bottomed out on the bolt stem, as of now the firing pin will travel forward in to the bolt about 1/16th of an inch or so before it stops. I hope this makes sense, and this test has produced the same results for the past 650 rounds so I think the wear may have stopped. I googled and could not find any info on soft saiga ak bolts or bolts shipping at the stem. So this brings me to the conclusion that I spend too much time worrying about my firearms and should just shoot them more and worry less. Any help with this would be much much appriciated. Thanks guys and thanks for giving me a chance at this forum its a great place and I am glad I am learning the rules because I plan on sticking around. |
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It is slightly peening. I haven't seen a Saiga yet that hasn't peened to some degree. I am pretty sure it stopped though. If this became an issue, i obviously cant get anymore saiga ak74 bolts so would a bulgarian one fit? Bulgarian bolt will fit if headspaced correctly. Headspacing may involve more than just moving the barrel to obtain correct headspace. For example: If I had to replace bolt of my SGL 74 with brand new Bulgy bolt, about .010" from the right lug would have to be removed to retain dimension proportion of both lugs as measured from the bolt face to rear of both lugs. Another words, distance from the bolt face to rear of left lug on SGL bolt is identical to Bulgy bolt. Distance from bolt face to rear of right lug is about .010" greater on Bulgy then SGL, therefore the dimensions are not proportional. Of course, the right lug is ground at an angle. |
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http://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/AK74-BOLT-CARRIER-159p1591.htm
http://armsofamerica.com/unissued-blackbulgarianak-74545x39mmcompletekitminusbarrel.aspx http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Products/1205810.htm http://www.gunpartscorp.com/ad/1161220.htm http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Products/1205820.htm You might want to check on gunpartscorp from time to time to see when they get them back in stock. If all else fails then your only other option is to pick up at parts kit. |
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Bulgarian 5.45x39. Talk to a gunsmith in your area.
https://apexgunparts.com/product_info.php/products_id/1034 |
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If you want spare bolt, buy one from K-Var. They're new, don't have any numbers stamped or engraved, and no pitting on bolt face.
http://www.k-var.com/shop/AK-183B.html Bulgarian parts kit on Saiga receiver? 
You come up with ideas that never crossed my mind. I guess you could if you can find unemployed AK gun smith who has nothing better to do. It would cheaper to buy two or more SLR 104s. |
| I like the one I have now, hoping never to have to worry about needing a new bolt, it has around 3-4k through it mostly 7n6, so i am hoping any peening ANYWHERE in the rifle is done like i have seen on my friends rifles, (seems like everything beats it self up for a bit then stops at a certain point and everything is ok). |
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