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Posted: 9/29/2008 8:48:53 PM EDT
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Sweet. We need more pics of that beauty. |
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edited. Discovered old post. Links updated.
KJG turning big rocks into little rocks. 
Paul thinks it's a lot nicer then the M240 
My friend's older PK 
One of my PKMs 
One of my PKMs (second from right) awaiting testfie in Tucson (Photo for VLTOR by Mario at APOH) 
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Originally Posted By Lenaburg:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v667/STORMINAZ/DSC00505.jpg Real deal. We had it in our office for like a week before we had to turn it back over to the Iraqi Police. Thanks for serving! How did you like it? How was the accuracy when fired full-auto? |
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It is the DUTY of all Americans to own and be proficient with all manners of firearms.
The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference.
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It is the DUTY of all Americans to own and be proficient with all manners of firearms.
The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference.
FUCK OBAMA
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Originally Posted By LegionNorge:
I will have one some day. The $6000+ price tag is just a little daunting right now. **NOW AVAILABLE** ROMANIAN SEMI-PKM's just $4,575 w/ one 200 round can marcolmarfirearms.com I don't think they will ever get cheaper than that. |
So nice... so WANT! I would love to have a PKM. In any form. |
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Thanks EFB16ACRX!
It is the DUTY of all Americans to own and be proficient with all manners of firearms.
'My name is Legion,' he replied, 'for we are many.' --Mark 5:8-10
FUCK OBAMA
It is the DUTY of all Americans to own and be proficient with all manners of firearms.
'My name is Legion,' he replied, 'for we are many.' --Mark 5:8-10
FUCK OBAMA
much lower profile than the last scope rail I saw. I note in SAR that B&T is making one. Anyone had a chance to see it? How does this Arm Dyn one mount" Does it need the rear sight? I bought a PKT cover from Apex to put a rail on, but if someone else makes one better there is no point in me re-inventing the wheel.
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T. Mark Graham
Master Gunsmith
Arizona Response Systems
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Arizona Response Systems
Great looking PKMs everybody, I am pretty new to them though and have a couple of questions. First off I noticed that some of them have what appears to be a buffer tube going through the skeletonized buttstock. Is this a buffer tube or some type of stiffener and is this a easy way to tell the country of origin or whether one is full or semi-auto? Second I noticed that there are two types of flash suppressors, one being a short cone shaped with some holes in it and the other being a long straight type with long slots cut into it? Please educate me one the differences as I am thinking about trading in some stuff to obtain one. Thanks in advance for the help!
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" When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." Hunter S. Thompson
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The one with the tube running through the buttstock is the semi-auto version sold by Marcolmar Firearms. Without the tube through the buttstock will be the original or full-auto versions.
You'll essentially find three general styles of the PK/PKM flash hider - the longer, thicker one with the slots (for the PK); the longer, thinner one with the slots (the earlier style for the PKM); and the shorter, slotted one (the later style for the PKM). |
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Finished my two rails.
On the one, I used the B&T with a red dot, so I don't have to worry about eye relief. Did very well out to 500m. It does render the carry handle inoperable - or rather it converts it from a "carry handle" to an "aggressive knuckle-chiseler." I gave up on the PKT rail shown above. Instead I took a weaver base for a savage 110 and riveted it to the top cover, then slid a modified AR-15 rail riser from Young Manufacturing over it. Two screws on the front and middle, and set screw in the slot of the weaver base. Much simpler than the previous design. Mounts the ELCAN far enough back that I can see through it. The B&T doesn't leave enough eye relief. 
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T. Mark Graham
Master Gunsmith
Arizona Response Systems
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Orginally At the range  After I added a picatinny rail to a spare feed tray cover  Gun painted with ELCAN M145 machine gun optic mounted  With shortened spare barrel   With Zeiss Orion 80 night vision device mounted (West German surplus GEN I triple tube cascade NVD)  The Orion has a built-in STANAG mount so I used an ARMS (spit!) STANAG to picatinny adapter. |
Et quant au repos ? Le Caliphate doit être essuyé de la terre.
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I just refinished the stocks on the guns in guns in Atomicferret's pic. And added an optic. I am working on a side folder stock adapter then finding a stock that works on a left side folder with the ejection port and all. Cut down an old bbl to just before the gas block and you have an entry gun!
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Originally Posted By Gunplumber: who, besides ArmaDynamic, makes a PKM optic mount? already answered a few posts up I have to caution that I coud not get the B&T rail to mount on my Hungarian. Geometry was all off. That's why I WECSOG'd a rail on to a spare feed tray cover. |
Et quant au repos ? Le Caliphate doit être essuyé de la terre.
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Mine fits fine.
I still don't have a efficient technique to reinstall the feed tray cover spring, but that's the only difficulty I had with either of mine. I used a modified PKT feedtray cover on my other one, just to see if I could make a longer one. |
T. Mark Graham
Master Gunsmith
Arizona Response Systems
Master Gunsmith
Arizona Response Systems
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Originally Posted By ODA_564: Originally Posted By Gunplumber: who, besides ArmaDynamic, makes a PKM optic mount? already answered a few posts up I have to caution that I coud not get the B&T rail to mount on my Hungarian. Geometry was all off. That's why I WECSOG'd a rail on to a spare feed tray cover. I have a Hungarian also and I don't want any problems so it's looking like a ArmaDynamic. |
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https://www.apexgunparts.com/product_info.php/cPath/80/products_id/1067 A piece of rail, some rivets (or bolts) and its a solution (I used JB Weld too). |
Et quant au repos ? Le Caliphate doit être essuyé de la terre.
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I'd like to know what ODA's alleged fitting problems are, as it fits my Hungarians just fine.
I made my own from a PKT cover, because the B&T was too far forward to get good eye-relief with my Elcan. So I just keep the B&T on one gun with an aimpoint and my home-made on the other. 
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T. Mark Graham
Master Gunsmith
Arizona Response Systems
Master Gunsmith
Arizona Response Systems
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Originally Posted By ODA_564: https://www.apexgunparts.com/product_info.php/cPath/80/products_id/1067 A piece of rail, some rivets (or bolts) and its a solution (I used JB Weld too). That's neat. You did buy one of those didn't you? I thought there was problems with those fitting on the PKM's? Is my memory whack? |
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Originally Posted By Gunplumber: I'd like to know what ODA's alleged fitting problems are, as it fits my Hungarians just fine. I made my own from a PKT cover, because the B&T was too far forward to get good eye-relief with my Elcan. So I just keep the B&T on one gun with an aimpoint and my home-made on the other. http://www.arizonaresponsesystems.com/wp/ak/pkmrail-08.jpg Same thing I did (fabrication-wise) and for the same reason (length of rail). Now as to the B&T issues. The B&T mount I got from Keisler Defense was basically a rail with "U" bracket that used the pivot pin at the front of the top cover to secure it and then the piece at the end of the rail hooked under the rear sight. A set screw tensioned it. B&T's page - http://www.bt-ag.ch/en/manufacturing/mountingsystems/optical_sight_mounts.php?pid=678 Their picture (they call it the "Russian version").  Keisler's picture (they no longer sell it).  The issue I had was that the "bump" at the front of my top cover (the rise as it goes from the pivot pin back) was angled too stteply for the rear of the mount to slide under the rear signt base - it was like a lever with too high a fulcrum. So, if I just slid it on from front to rear and secured the rear of the mount, the front holes on the mount didn't line up with the pin for the top cover (off by nearly 3/8 of an inch) and the mount was a significant angle above the horizontal. I followed the instructions repeatedly, step by step and even had other people try it (one was a gunsmith that works for the FBI who got so frustrated he was going to fabricate a new front bracket and the others were two different SF weapons sergeants who had used them on their PKMs in AFG). The funny thing is it fit fine when I dry fit it to the spare (Polish?) top cover I bought from Apex (which has no rear sight base - probably a PKT cover - so it wouldn't have worked on that one anyway). I quit messing with it when I realized that it was fine for a RDS, but useless for an M145 MGO (and for that matter, it wouldn't work with my Orion NVD) for the same reason you fabricated one. The ArmaDynamics mount is sweet and sexy, but very expensive (niche mount, niche market). If they had been available after my frustrating experience with the B&T, I might have bought one even at $500. But they weren't, so I bought a top cover from Apex and fabricated my own for ¼ the price. |
Et quant au repos ? Le Caliphate doit être essuyé de la terre.
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