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9/24/2013 2:56:19 PM EDT
Hi guys,

I am very new to the AK scene, have been in AR-15s for the past 10 years but was offered an AK-47 in a trade but know nothing about them.  I have attached the picture below of what he is offering me.  He says it is an  85 Polytech but I don't know one AK from the next unfortunately.  I have tried doing some research but the rifle looks different than others I have seen out on the web.  Anything you can tell me about it would be extremely helpful.  Thanks in advance!

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9/24/2013 3:05:41 PM EDT
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Great AK, & one of the best made.
9/24/2013 3:17:00 PM EDT
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Awesome, that is good to know!  Does it make a big difference if the receiver is stamped vs milled?
9/24/2013 4:26:27 PM EDT
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In the case of Chinese AKs, yes; primarily a weight difference, but also a difference in value; functionally however, there is no difference and you'll never see the lifetime of a stamped receiver. Milled Polytechs are usually Polytech Legends or NM47s (long barreled like an RPK) with a dark red furniture and a much greater value. There are milled Norincos, but they are not valued in the same manner; Milled underfolders or even double underfolders (stock and spike bayonet) are rare and highly sought after.
9/24/2013 4:31:37 PM EDT
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Awesome, that is good to know!  Does it make a big difference if the receiver is stamped vs milled?
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Awesome, that is good to know!  Does it make a big difference if the receiver is stamped vs milled?

Not really.  People will talk about weight differences, but the Chinese use a thicker than normal stamped receiver, so the weight difference is pretty minimal.  Then the one you are looking at has the spike bayonet, adding even more weight to it.

My brother has one just like you pictured, and a Polytech Legend.  They weigh pretty much the same.  They are both really nice AKs.. and I'm a total AK snob lol
9/24/2013 4:35:51 PM EDT
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Thanks guys for all the information.  You have been extremely helpful!
9/24/2013 7:31:15 PM EDT
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This is true, my old Polytech Legend (milled) weighed 7 lb, 0 oz.  My old 85 Polytech spiker (stamped) weighed 7 lb, 12 oz.  Milled lighter in this case.  In fact the Legend was one of the lightest AK's I have weighed.  

Anyway, the spiker is a great rifle, just needs to get rid of the ugly 74 style brake.  Should be a muzzle nut.
9/24/2013 8:36:16 PM EDT
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This is true, my old Polytech Legend (milled) weighed 7 lb, 0 oz.  My old 85 Polytech spiker (stamped) weighed 7 lb, 12 oz.  Milled lighter in this case.  In fact the Legend was one of the lightest AK's I have weighed.  

Anyway, the spiker is a great rifle, just needs to get rid of the ugly 74 style brake.  Should be a muzzle nut.
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In the case of Chinese AKs, yes; primarily a weight difference,


This is true, my old Polytech Legend (milled) weighed 7 lb, 0 oz.  My old 85 Polytech spiker (stamped) weighed 7 lb, 12 oz.  Milled lighter in this case.  In fact the Legend was one of the lightest AK's I have weighed.  

Anyway, the spiker is a great rifle, just needs to get rid of the ugly 74 style brake.  Should be a muzzle nut.


THIS...lose the '74 brake and go back with the classic muzzle nut.
9/24/2013 8:46:59 PM EDT
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This is true, my old Polytech Legend (milled) weighed 7 lb, 0 oz.  My old 85 Polytech spiker (stamped) weighed 7 lb, 12 oz.  Milled lighter in this case.  In fact the Legend was one of the lightest AK's I have weighed.  

Anyway, the spiker is a great rifle, just needs to get rid of the ugly 74 style brake.  Should be a muzzle nut.
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In the case of Chinese AKs, yes; primarily a weight difference,


This is true, my old Polytech Legend (milled) weighed 7 lb, 0 oz.  My old 85 Polytech spiker (stamped) weighed 7 lb, 12 oz.  Milled lighter in this case.  In fact the Legend was one of the lightest AK's I have weighed.  

Anyway, the spiker is a great rifle, just needs to get rid of the ugly 74 style brake.  Should be a muzzle nut.


I believe it's because of the spiker assembly. Those weight at least 5 pounds
9/24/2013 8:47:56 PM EDT
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THIS...lose the '74 brake and go back with the classic muzzle nut.
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In the case of Chinese AKs, yes; primarily a weight difference,


This is true, my old Polytech Legend (milled) weighed 7 lb, 0 oz.  My old 85 Polytech spiker (stamped) weighed 7 lb, 12 oz.  Milled lighter in this case.  In fact the Legend was one of the lightest AK's I have weighed.  

Anyway, the spiker is a great rifle, just needs to get rid of the ugly 74 style brake.  Should be a muzzle nut.


THIS...lose the '74 brake and go back with the classic muzzle nut.


+1 for the nut


9/25/2013 1:54:03 AM EDT
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What does he want in trade?
9/25/2013 5:10:12 AM EDT
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9/25/2013 5:16:37 AM EDT
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The Chicom Spiker is my favorite preban. I like it even more than the Legend.
And as stated above, Chicoms have thicker stamped receivers of about 1.5mm-1.6mm, so their torsional ridgidity is close to that of milled AK's.

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