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Posted: 8/1/2014 3:24:22 PM EDT
| I just drove 2 hours round trip to go get a AK---. I had my mind set on a N-PAP but when i felt that buttstock my god it felt like I was holding a 6x6 post so I went with a Polish AK imported by IO. Got home with it and I see this.. http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll239/shadowsoulrocks/0801141745a_zps0a68b3f7.jpghttp://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll239/shadowsoulrocks/0801141745b_zps01a554b3.jpg |
| Oh it's a crack....I hate being a burden on my local LGS.. I have been a pest the past few weeks trying to make up my mind. And now this,,, I had a Inter-arms in front of me. The NPAP, but my god like I said that buttstock is like a 6x6 post.. and this Polish.. I went the wrong route.. I know they will take care of me just a hassle to drive back.. |
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Hopefully it is just a casting mark, and not a crack. 
Downright depressing hearing the Poles are making AK's IO style.  There's a video on Pioneer Arms Youtube page that shows them using the barrel to buck the front trunnion rivets. Just because they're made in Radom, doesn't mean they're up to FB Radom's quality. |
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I just drove 2 hours round trip to go get a AK---. I had my mind set on a N-PAP but when i felt that buttstock my god it felt like I was holding a 6x6 post so I went with a Polish AK imported by IO. Got home with it and I see this.. http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll239/shadowsoulrocks/0801141745a_zps0a68b3f7.jpghttp://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll239/shadowsoulrocks/0801141745b_zps01a554b3.jpg Drimel time if it grinds out its a cast mark. If not buy a new bolt carrier online. Or do the return it thing already suggested. |
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I know IO has a Bad Reputation I live in NC... This is the pioneer arms import and truthfully i had my mind set on a NPAP but was talked out of it by someone.. Yes i feel like a idiot now.. They are made in Radom, Poland.. but Pioneer Arms isn't FB Radom. These rifles aren't made by the military arms factory. The barreled receivers are imported and then finished out with whatever parts IO throws in them. The cast bolt carriers look pretty rough. These rifles just scream of being built as cheaply as possible. |
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Oh it's a crack....I hate being a burden on my local LGS.. I have been a pest the past few weeks trying to make up my mind. And now this,,, I had a Inter-arms in front of me. The NPAP, but my god like I said that buttstock is like a 6x6 post.. and this Polish.. I went the wrong route.. I know they will take care of me just a hassle to drive back.. Return it, get the NPAP, go to the marketplace over on Akfiles and buy a surplus m70 stock, swap the stocks. Problem solved. |
| The surplus stocks are....well....surplus, so they don't look as nice as the NPAP wood, but you can stain them to match. Or better yet, buy matching surplus hand guards for that BFPU look. Surplus stocks vary quite a bit in price from seller to seller, but I'm suggesting this option to you because there happens to be a guy right now selling them fairly inexpensively. An m76 stock will also work, and it has a much lower comb than either the m70 or NPAP, but I haven't seen any pop up for sale in the last month or so. Like the m70s, the m76s vary in price and availability. |
| Take it back, tell them it is cracked and you want an Npap. You're right, the Npap stock is awful, I tried to sand the hump down but it was still uncomfortable to shoot compared to an Opap. On AK files there is a guy selling M72 stocks for $50, looks just like an M70 stock, I ordered one of them. Much more comfortable to shoot and looks better. The Npaps are first rate AKs, a number of them including mine have had canted rear sights, if you are getting one from a gun store look at them and pick out one that is straight. |
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Drimel time if it grinds out its a cast mark. If not buy a new bolt carrier online. Or do the return it thing already suggested. Quoted:
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I just drove 2 hours round trip to go get a AK---. I had my mind set on a N-PAP but when i felt that buttstock my god it felt like I was holding a 6x6 post so I went with a Polish AK imported by IO. Got home with it and I see this.. http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll239/shadowsoulrocks/0801141745a_zps0a68b3f7.jpghttp://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll239/shadowsoulrocks/0801141745b_zps01a554b3.jpg Drimel time if it grinds out its a cast mark. If not buy a new bolt carrier online. Or do the return it thing already suggested. BULLSHIT. You're suggesting someone grind on an unfired gun, his LGS will take back. If that's a crack and went through QC as APPROVED. There's other shit wrong with it.
IF the OP wants to remove the finish, for damage verification, it should be done in front of the LGS manager. |
| No I'm not doing anything to it..The crack goes about half way thru the metal... Even if it's a casting mark "whatever that's supposed to be" I'm not that educated in AK's. it's still visible to he eye and you can feel it.. I know better to mess with it and then take it back and go Duh can you help me... |
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No I'm not doing anything to it..The crack goes about half way thru the metal... Even if it's a casting mark "whatever that's supposed to be" I'm not that educated in AK's. it's still visible to he eye and you can feel it.. I know better to mess with it and then take it back and go Duh can you help me... Good for you. FWIW: next time you want input/ advice, post in GD.  Too bad you have to spend another few hours of driving. You call the shop to say, you're heading back.
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BULLSHIT. You're suggesting someone grind on an unfired gun, his LGS will take back. IF the OP wants to remove the finish, for damage verification, it should be done in front of the LGS manager. |
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Problem Solved... My local LGS is the best.. It was my own fault for going with that IO crap. never again..
Not sure what the forum policy is on posting non forum sponsors is but if your near Eastern NC I can give you the info. They have plenty of Ak's and Ar's and I drive the round trip 2 hours without even hesitating because they rock. Been dealing with this for over a year now.. Got this sweet thing for 519.00 out the door. http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll239/shadowsoulrocks/0802141635_zpscc57f57f.jpg |
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Problem Solved... My local LGS is the best.. It was my own fault for going with that IO crap. never again.. Not sure what the forum policy is on posting non forum sponsors is but if your near Eastern NC I can give you the info. They have plenty of Ak's and Ar's and I drive the round trip 2 hours without even hesitating because they rock. Been dealing with this for over a year now.. Got this sweet thing for 519.00 out the door. http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll239/shadowsoulrocks/0802141635_zpscc57f57f.jpg Very nice! Glad it turned out well, and it's totally okay to say who you got it from, need more good gunshops like that. |
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Problem Solved... My local LGS is the best.. It was my own fault for going with that IO crap. never again.. Not sure what the forum policy is on posting non forum sponsors is but if your near Eastern NC I can give you the info. They have plenty of Ak's and Ar's and I drive the round trip 2 hours without even hesitating because they rock. Been dealing with this for over a year now.. Got this sweet thing for 519.00 out the door. http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll239/shadowsoulrocks/0802141635_zpscc57f57f.jpg Nice rifle |
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They are not set up for shipping yest I don't think. They are in Jacksonville NC https://www.facebook.com/GuerrillaArmament Like their page. They need all the support they can get. They are 100% into customer satisfaction Huh, never heard of them when I was stationed in Lejeune... and I drove ALL over Eastern NC to check out gun shops. Are they new? ETA nice Zastava. I picked up an NPAP underfolder a while back and love the thing. |
| Hmmm been in business for at least a year and half.. I found them thru a Marine I knew. I went there back right after the school shooting and his majesty started talking his talk of gun control and overnight everything was gone and if you did find it you paid inflated prices. When I went to Guerrilla Armament back then they has all kinds of AR parts, ammo,PMags,USGI Mags and their prices was not inflated.. Since then I have been a loyal customer. |
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Hmmm been in business for at least a year and half.. I found them thru a Marine I knew. I went there back right after the school shooting and his majesty started talking his talk of gun control and overnight everything was gone and if you did find it you paid inflated prices. When I went to Guerrilla Armament back then they has all kinds of AR parts, ammo,PMags,USGI Mags and their prices was not inflated.. Since then I have been a loyal customer. Nice. I guess it doesn't have to be that new... I haven't been in that neck of the woods since '07. I'm getting old. 
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Problem Solved... My local LGS is the best.. It was my own fault for going with that IO crap. never again.. Not sure what the forum policy is on posting non forum sponsors is but if your near Eastern NC I can give you the info. They have plenty of Ak's and Ar's and I drive the round trip 2 hours without even hesitating because they rock. Been dealing with this for over a year now.. Got this sweet thing for 519.00 out the door. http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll239/shadowsoulrocks/0802141635_zpscc57f57f.jpg Outside of 4 hrs driving, It's nice to know your LGS stepped up and took care of you. That's a nice looking AK. |
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