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1/27/2012 6:24:30 AM EDT
My AK has a slant-style muzzle brake.  I'd been shooting a bunch of Golden Tiger the other day and then switched to some Wolf Military Classic.  I didn't notice hardly any muzzle flash at all on the Golden Tiger, but it seemed that the WMC stuff was throwing fireballs down the range.  It was a huge difference from Golden Tiger to WMC.

I'm inexperienced with AK's and was just wondering why the WMC stuff was producing so much more muzzle flash?  What is it that WMC does that Golden Tiger doesn't (or vice versa) to cause that?

Also....I've seen the rounds spark when they hit the backstop before.  However, the Golden Tiger almost seems to create "comets" when they hit the backstop.  It was like a full blown shooting star....the inital spark...a long slow trail of glowing light arching left or right, and then when the bullet came to rest on the floor it still remained glowing for several seconds.  What causes that?  The WMC didn't produce the comets like that and I was just wondering if it was due to the bullet construction of the Golden Tiger compared to the WMC?

Thanks.
1/30/2012 1:24:44 PM EDT
[#1]
Golden Tiger has a faster burning powder, and has a higher muzzle velocity than WMC according to the Military Arms Channel chronograph test. They're both bimetal steel jacketed bullets as far as I know. Both lead core

1/31/2012 10:31:38 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Golden Tiger has a faster burning powder, and has a higher muzzle velocity than WMC according to the Military Arms Channel chronograph test. They're both bimetal steel jacketed bullets as far as I know. Both lead core

Exactly this. My 11.5" SBR flashes like crazy with WMC, Tula, and WPA, but the flash, while still present, is far more subdued shooting Yugo, GT, SB, and most domestic ammo. The quality and burn rate of the powder explains the difference in flash and muzzle velocity. This is why GT is my go-to bulk ammo for my SBR. I have no input for the terminal effects you're mentioning down range, although I suspect it has to do with the exact alloy used for the bullet jackets.
2/1/2012 6:47:28 AM EDT
[#3]
Thanks guys.  I appreciate the info.  I don't do reloading and don't know much about how powder burn relates to muzzle flash and such...so I was hoping to learn something and understand at least a basic idea of why there was such a huge difference.
2/1/2012 9:14:44 AM EDT
[#4]
As far as 'glowing bullets', maybe you got some tracers mixed in with your lot?
2/1/2012 10:31:21 AM EDT
[#5]
I couldn't say for sure as I've never fired a tracer before.  The Golden Tiger FMJ rounds looked just like the rest though, there was nothing visibly different.  There was no "light" or "trail" upon leaving the barrel.....only after they hit the wall.  They'd hit the backstop of the range and "spark" as might be expected, but then after that hit....it would throw the bullet (or remainder of the bullet) in sort of a long glowing arc 6-10 feet to the side so that it looked like a comet.  Then, when the round came to rest on the floor, it would sit there glowing for maybe a second.  My wife was watching behind me and kept saying "oooh...pretty"....lol.

I've read that the construction of the GT bullets have a hollow cavity at the top and I wonder if that has anything to do with it.  Beats me.  Fun to watch though ;)
2/1/2012 10:37:11 AM EDT
[#6]
I've never noticed them glowing (might hafta try in low light )

However when I was shooting some wood yesterday, around each hole made by GT there was a slight purplish ring around it, I'm assuming from the sealant?
3/20/2012 12:37:22 PM EDT
[#7]
I couldn't find any consistency with Russian ammo. (whatever the brand)

With no flash suppressor some rounds make sparks, some make ALOT of sparks, some put out some fire, some put out a big, blinding white ball of fire.

So if this is a concern for you have a flash suppressor or use Hornady Vmax ammo. (No flash, small red flame!) I don't know if the newer SST uses the same powder, but probably.

3/20/2012 6:46:00 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
My AK has a slant-style muzzle brake.  I'd been shooting a bunch of Golden Tiger the other day and then switched to some Wolf Military Classic.  I didn't notice hardly any muzzle flash at all on the Golden Tiger, but it seemed that the WMC stuff was throwing fireballs down the range.  It was a huge difference from Golden Tiger to WMC.

I'm inexperienced with AK's and was just wondering why the WMC stuff was producing so much more muzzle flash?  What is it that WMC does that Golden Tiger doesn't (or vice versa) to cause that?

Also....I've seen the rounds spark when they hit the backstop before.  However, the Golden Tiger almost seems to create "comets" when they hit the backstop.  It was like a full blown shooting star....the inital spark...a long slow trail of glowing light arching left or right, and then when the bullet came to rest on the floor it still remained glowing for several seconds.  What causes that?  The WMC didn't produce the comets like that and I was just wondering if it was due to the bullet construction of the Golden Tiger compared to the WMC?

Thanks.


people have reported increased accuracy using a bird cage style flash suppressor in place of the slant brake.
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