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7/24/2009 6:37:20 PM EDT
I'm sure this has been covered before but I just couldn't find a thread.., I'm picking up a GP Wasr 10 and was wondering about the Tapco magazines.., fit and function compared to metal?  I use then in several of my SKS's and am happy with their performance.  What do ya'll think?
7/25/2009 6:20:33 PM EDT
[#1]
Most people hate them but most of that hate seems to be aimed at the maker and not the product.

I've got several of these that I use regularly in my SLR's and a Yugo reweld.  I have yet to have a malfunction with them.

With that said, I did break one awhile ago.  I dropped it on the concrete and broke part of the feed lip off.  Even then, the mag still worked.  Anyway, Tapco was cool about it and promptly shipped out a replacement.
7/31/2009 7:22:09 AM EDT
[#2]
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=4&f=55&t=120747
8/7/2009 6:47:40 PM EDT
[#3]
Just tried one; I have 3 AK's no go in 2 and very tight in the 3rd. Bought at Cabella's it's going back! I'll stick with steel.
8/10/2009 6:13:34 PM EDT
[#4]
I just bought a stored brand new Norinco 63 SKS that accepts AK mags.  I bought 2 Tapco mags and they do not fit at all. I called Tapco and they suggested modifying the mag to fit. I didn't want to have to do this with my first attempt to find a functional magazine for this weapon system. I have exchanged them for metal mags at the same price. #ATIMAK4730. I'm awaiting delivery. Hopefully I'll have better luck.

Is there a specific manufacturer for whom I should take preference with this particular "hybrid" system?
8/11/2009 4:14:51 AM EDT
[#5]
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Is there a specific manufacturer for whom I should take preference with this particular "hybrid" system?

Most people have found that any mil surp AK magazine in good condition will work.
YMMV

8/19/2009 8:23:25 AM EDT
[#6]
I have 10 of them. Each 1 has been great for me. Feeds fine, fits fine, holds up fine. I have dropped them too.
Bought them to test out.  However I like steel mags better & will continue buying them.
8/20/2009 5:17:58 AM EDT
[#7]
AKs have three enemies:

1. Rust
2. Politicians
3. Tapco
8/21/2009 7:36:22 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
AKs have three enemies:

1. Rust
2. Politicians
3. Tapco


Whatever...
8/22/2009 3:33:52 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
AKs have three enemies:

3. Tapco


Ever heard of the G2 fcg?

8/22/2009 5:41:46 PM EDT
[#10]
I've been using them for a while with no problems. I use them regularly in a couple of Romy's and a pistol build.They are also easily modified to fit Saiga's. I've heard them referred to as the Magpul for AK's, so far from my experience with the Tapco's, I have to agree.

Side note: there were runs of the mags that were assembled with AR mag springs, if you have these Tapco will send replacement springs.
8/23/2009 4:34:04 AM EDT
[#11]
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AKs have three enemies:

3. Tapco


Ever heard of the G2 fcg?



You mean the same G2 trigger that was designed by Gordon Technologies, that Tapco did nothing but buy the rights to?

Yeah, I've heard of it.

And, I prefer my Arsenal FCG.

8/23/2009 5:04:40 AM EDT
[#12]
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AKs have three enemies:

3. Tapco


Ever heard of the G2 fcg?



You mean the same G2 trigger that was designed by Gordon Technologies, that Tapco did nothing but buy the rights to?

Yeah, I've heard of it.

And, I prefer my Arsenal FCG.



Yep, the same G2 that Tapco couldn't even drill a hole in at a consistent depth, so they had to recall them when some guns were going NFA
8/23/2009 6:33:09 AM EDT
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And, I prefer my Arsenal FCG.


Is that one of those with the shattering hammers?
Or the "two stage" trigger that someone described as requiring a prybar to release?

8/23/2009 6:36:45 AM EDT
[#14]
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Yep, the same G2 that Tapco couldn't even drill a hole in at a consistent depth, so they had to recall them

Wow. Someone made a mistake and  a company admitted it!
Some might think those who can do so are ahead of, say a company that produces defective products and refuses to admit the fact and replace the product.

8/23/2009 1:51:48 PM EDT
[#15]
Before I traded my WASR, the only mags that would not wobble were the Tapco mags. They fit in snug and worked 100%.

But now that I have some more quality AK's, I just stick to steel.
8/23/2009 3:02:40 PM EDT
[#16]
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Yep, the same G2 that Tapco couldn't even drill a hole in at a consistent depth, so they had to recall them

Wow. Someone made a mistake and  a company admitted it!
Some might think those who can do so are ahead of, say a company that produces defective products and refuses to admit the fact and replace the product.





I guess Ford is the pinnacle of quality to you then eh?

I'd rather a company that doesn't make products that risk you getting thrown in jail.
8/23/2009 5:35:14 PM EDT
[#17]
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And, I prefer my Arsenal FCG.


Is that one of those with the shattering hammers?
Or the "two stage" trigger that someone described as requiring a prybar to release?



Reading your other posts on this forum makes me realize that you have some sort of loathing for high end AKs, so your biased statements don't mean a damn thing.

I tried to like Tapco, they had some innovative stuff that was priced right.

It's just that none of it worked.

The AK folding stock that they make is a pile of shit and their polymer AK mags are a poor attempt at a PMAG equivalent for the AK system.

They seems to cater to the lowest common denominator of AK owners with accessories that are barely quality enough to be used on airsoft guns.

My Arsenal FCG is just fine and the trigger release is fine.

I don't understand why people get a boner over having match like trigger pulls on a battle rifle.

If the trigger seems to be too much for you, maybe you could try and get just a little bit tougher?
8/25/2009 4:29:23 PM EDT
[#18]
Ive had problems with 50% of my milsurp mags jamming up and not releasing from the magwell. Or they look like they were dug up from a field after an arty strike. One had what looked like a shrapnel hole it it that would snag the follower. Had to hammer it flat. Looking to pick up some Tapco's or maybe Thermold to try out. Atleast they have a warranty.
8/26/2009 3:55:39 PM EDT
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Ive had problems with 50% of my milsurp mags jamming up and not releasing from the magwell. Or they look like they were dug up from a field after an arty strike. One had what looked like a shrapnel hole it it that would snag the follower. Had to hammer it flat. Looking to pick up some Tapco's or maybe Thermold to try out. Atleast they have a warranty.


I think your mag well may be cut out of spec.

Who manufactured your rifle?
8/26/2009 4:04:27 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
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Ive had problems with 50% of my milsurp mags jamming up and not releasing from the magwell. Or they look like they were dug up from a field after an arty strike. One had what looked like a shrapnel hole it it that would snag the follower. Had to hammer it flat. Looking to pick up some Tapco's or maybe Thermold to try out. Atleast they have a warranty.


I think your mag well may be cut out of spec.

Who manufactured your rifle?


Yep, definitely sounds like the rifle. I've seen the ugliest of ugly surplus AK mags, and they almost always at least lock up ok.
8/26/2009 4:16:42 PM EDT
[#21]
Oh they lock up ok. No wobble at all. The problem is they wont come out. On about half of them the mag release latch "clicks" and then I cant get it to release without a long screwdriver for leverage.



The mag catch grabs too far on some of the mags, essentially overextending onto the tab and not letting go. I've lightly filed the mag catch to get rid of any possible burs, and also sanded the tabs to get rid of any imperfections. Still does it. Just not on all the mags, and not all the time.




Not a good feeling knowing that I may have a 30 round max capacity when I grab my rifle...



No problems whatsover with the polymer promag, which was why I was leaning towards getting some Tapco or Thermold mags to try out.




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Ive had problems with 50% of my milsurp mags jamming up and not releasing from the magwell. Or they look like they were dug up from a field after an arty strike. One had what looked like a shrapnel hole it it that would snag the follower. Had to hammer it flat. Looking to pick up some Tapco's or maybe Thermold to try out. Atleast they have a warranty.




I think your mag well may be cut out of spec.



Who manufactured your rifle?




Yep, definitely sounds like the rifle. I've seen the ugliest of ugly surplus AK mags, and they almost always at least lock up ok.






 
8/26/2009 6:04:55 PM EDT
[#22]
I have 3 hungarian mags and 3 yugo mags on the way but got my rifle with 3 tapco mags. What makes the tapco mags crap? I have yet to even shoot my rifle so excuse my ignorance.
8/27/2009 7:22:59 AM EDT
[#23]
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Oh they lock up ok. No wobble at all. The problem is they wont come out. On about half of them the mag release latch "clicks" and then I cant get it to release without a long screwdriver for leverage.
 

The most likely cause of this problem is that the magazine catch is too close to the trunnion.
The next most likely cause is that the selector stop plate is too thick or is not properly attached to the receiver.

8/27/2009 7:29:41 AM EDT
[#24]
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Reading your other posts on this forum makes me realize that you have some sort of loathing for high end AKs, so your biased statements don't mean a damn thing.

I don't have emotional reactions to inanimate objects. Objects don't mean enough to me to provoke such a reaction
I just think that paying 8-9 times what something is worth is goofy when I can buy one that works just as well for only 4 times what it's worth, or build one myself for half that.


8/27/2009 7:41:30 AM EDT
[#25]
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I have 3 hungarian mags and 3 yugo mags on the way but got my rifle with 3 tapco mags. What makes the tapco mags crap? I have yet to even shoot my rifle so excuse my ignorance.

The magazines are 100% plastic so they will not take the abuse that a mil-surp steel or a steel reinforced plastic magazine will.
If  you don't subject the magazines to a lot of abuse they'll probably be fine. If they do break, TAPCO will replace them.

8/27/2009 8:02:30 PM EDT
[#26]
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Reading your other posts on this forum makes me realize that you have some sort of loathing for high end AKs, so your biased statements don't mean a damn thing.

I don't have emotional reactions to inanimate objects. Objects don't mean enough to me to provoke such a reaction
I just think that paying 8-9 times what something is worth is goofy when I can buy one that works just as well for only 4 times what it's worth, or build one myself for half that.




Cheaper AKs work fine.

Comparing my Arsenal to my WASR though, the Arsenal has much better machining and the action is much smoother. The Arsenal's mag well is also cut better. It barely takes any effort to insert a magazine, but the mags lock up tight. Not that I have any major issues with mags in the WASR, the mag well just seems rougher.

Also, the Arsenal is more accurate.


Like I said, I'm not an AK snob. Cheaper AKs are just as reliable as a high dollar AK, the more expensive AK just has better fit and finish.


And, the closest thing I could get to a real deal Russian AK-103 was the SGL-20, which just happened to be made by Arsenal and cost $825.

I just enjoy the novelty of having a Russian made AK.

Gotta pay to play
8/28/2009 9:42:12 AM EDT
[#27]
I love my TAPCO mags. They disassemble much easier for cleaning, have an no-tilt follower, and match the stock on my gun. I've had no feeding problems with them that weren't ammunition related(soft points digging into the bottom of the chamber, this has not happened with FMJ). The only issue I've had was one of my four didn't readily insert/eject, but after some very light sanding and playing around with it to wear down the high points that interfered with the magazine well, it works just as well as the other three. Not to mention they have a lifetime warranty.
8/31/2009 2:12:22 AM EDT
[#28]



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Oh they lock up ok. No wobble at all. The problem is they wont come out. On about half of them the mag release latch "clicks" and then I cant get it to release without a long screwdriver for leverage.

 


The most likely cause of this problem is that the magazine catch is too close to the trunnion.

The next most likely cause is that the selector stop plate is too thick or is not properly attached to the receiver.





Both of those sound like time consuming and/or expensive to fix....



 
8/31/2009 4:34:20 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:

Quoted:
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Oh they lock up ok. No wobble at all. The problem is they wont come out. On about half of them the mag release latch "clicks" and then I cant get it to release without a long screwdriver for leverage.
 

The most likely cause of this problem is that the magazine catch is too close to the trunnion.
The next most likely cause is that the selector stop plate is too thick or is not properly attached to the receiver.


Both of those sound like time consuming and/or expensive to fix....
 

Neither is easy. You can file the "nub" on the magazines that are difficult to release (on the angled side), but if you have to remove a lot of material there's a high probability the magazines won't lock up properly in any other AK. And you'll find that some unmodified magazines will still refuse to come out.
In any case, if you decide to modify the magazines resist the urge to use a dremel. Use a fine file and test the fit every few strokes. Stop as soon as the catch releases easily.

8/31/2009 4:57:09 AM EDT
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And, I prefer my Arsenal FCG.


Is that one of those with the shattering hammers?
Or the "two stage" trigger that someone described as requiring a prybar to release?



Reading your other posts on this forum makes me realize that you have some sort of loathing for high end AKs, so your biased statements don't mean a damn thing.

I tried to like Tapco, they had some innovative stuff that was priced right.

It's just that none of it worked.

The AK folding stock that they make is a pile of shit and their polymer AK mags are a poor attempt at a PMAG equivalent for the AK system.

They seems to cater to the lowest common denominator of AK owners with accessories that are barely quality enough to be used on airsoft guns.

My Arsenal FCG is just fine and the trigger release is fine.

I don't understand why people get a boner over having match like trigger pulls on a battle rifle.

If the trigger seems to be too much for you, maybe you could try and get just a little bit tougher?


I have a Tapco polymer magazine that I keep for range use and it functions flawlessly in my Polish under folder and GP 1975.

Isn't the Arsenal FCG MIM? I'll stick to the cast Tapco G2. Fuck MIM.
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