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8/19/2007 9:16:59 AM EDT
Anyone build with the new Tapco flats with the prebent and cut rails? Are they a pain or better than before?
8/20/2007 2:35:31 PM EDT
[#1]
I should be getting my romy G kit in the mail any day now I have two of the new tapco flats and have checked all the holes, the seem consistant with my blueprint. Ill heep you updated when I get my kit.
8/20/2007 6:07:55 PM EDT
[#2]
same thing. you still have ti trim the top rails, but it does save you the part of having to cut out the bolt carrier incertion area.
8/20/2007 6:54:41 PM EDT
[#3]
killerone have you used the new tapco flat to build an ak?

If so any helpfull hints will be good

thanks

christopher Curtis
AKA zulupapa
8/20/2007 7:52:24 PM EDT
[#4]
The word is that the trigger guard holes are not in the right place, but I'm also waiting to hear from someone that has actually built one to give a report.
8/20/2007 8:07:34 PM EDT
[#5]
I have built two rifles on the "improved" flat. One with standard Tapco lower rails, the other with a modified lower rail. I think the lower rails are tapco's problem. If you line up the holes for the center support rivet and the hammer pin the lower rails are two low, not the top rails too high. The reason I came to this conclusion is that with everything else lined up, the lower rails were still lower than the trunnion "rails". Instead of bending my upper rails down I bent my lower rails up to close the gap. This fix seemed to work for me. After a bit of tweeking, the rifle digested 100 rounds as fast as I could change mags without any failures. I know 100 rounds isn't a lot but it heated her up pretty good. I did not have any trouble with the trigger guard or front trunnion holes lining up on either build, and the rear trunnion holes were pretty close.

The jury is still out on the rifle with the modified lower rails, I am just about finished with it and may fire it this weekend. It looks good so far though.

Even though they are less work than the Ak-builder flats I still feel that you get a better end product with the Ak-builder flat. And the rivets that Curtis sells are a cut above any other that I have used.
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8/20/2007 9:16:39 PM EDT
[#6]
I too noticed that the left lower rail dosnt lin up with the center suport hole, but couldnt you just line up the rail with the turrion and than re drill the cent support on the left rail? The right rail seams to line up with the hole pretty good. does any one else have an opion on how to fix a tapco lower left rail. I guess I could bend i up to close the gap like mstrsippy did.

thanks
zulupapa
8/21/2007 3:05:03 AM EDT
[#7]
I am thinking that if you like the new flat, use it and a set of undrilled lower rails. That way you could drill the holes after the rails are welded in place without running the risk of egging the holes in the receiver.
8/21/2007 2:27:01 PM EDT
[#8]
I'll post pics tommorow of a 100% receiver, the new tapco and the old topco receivers.
8/21/2007 5:24:52 PM EDT
[#9]
I have built two Romy G's with these flats and after 700rds and 400rds through each rifle no jams.
The front and rear trunnion stll need to be fitted but all holes lined up just right.
Im in the process of building two more with these flats will post later with results.
I made my first bending jig myself and just bought a machined bending jig here off this board.
Want to see how much better a machined jig does compaired to a home made one.
Later
William



http://www.georgiagun.com/100_4154.JPG
8/22/2007 6:15:50 AM EDT
[#10]
can someone post a picture of the saftey engaged. I heard there is a problem with the allignment. So a closeup of the right side would be nice.
8/22/2007 2:14:18 PM EDT
[#11]
Here is a shot of the safety engaged.
Hope this helps.

William




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8/22/2007 2:45:36 PM EDT
[#12]
When these flats came in, I was really happy to see that they were prebent Bolt Carrier rails.  I lined it up in the jig, then we bent them.  Both of them came out with the rear, right side (rear trunion) being about .2 inches higher then the left side.  This happened on both of them.  I think were gonna fix this by throwing it back in the jig and tapping the rail down in the back a bit more and dremeling it back to side.  The front trunion holes lined up perfectly!  Just how it should
8/23/2007 7:39:48 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Here is a shot of the safety engaged.
Hope this helps.
William
georgiagun.com/100_4170.JPG
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georgiagun.com/100_4171.JPG


Did you rivit the lower rails on?
8/23/2007 2:21:14 PM EDT
[#14]
Yes I did rivit the rails in and i mig welded them as well on the inside.
I wanted to make it look more frankinstineish.
Looks good to me.
William
9/2/2007 5:37:18 PM EDT
[#15]
I have 2 new and 3 old flats anwd should be bending them all soon I will let you know how they turn out.
9/2/2007 6:10:07 PM EDT
[#16]
All 5 4 that I built off, the prebent rails sucked.  They were not bent in the correct location and needed to be bent more, mine were about 1/8 too high.  All the holes lined up well for my Romanian AIM kits, but a ton of fitting work was needed.  As expected I had to work on the mag catches but also had to signifcantly grind upper and lower rails more so than other flats.  I had to bend the receiver cover outward a bit to open it up in order to install it.  Also, the gap already made for installing the bolt carrier was too long, I needed to use a buffer on all of them.

I did make my buffers out of some "Baler Belt" that I picked up at mills fleet farm.  It is fairly rigid but has some rubbery give to it, plus it is a hair thinned than the buffers sold by copesdist.com.   Making them however, is quite labor intensive.
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