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Posted: 4/16/2010 5:11:16 PM EDT
| O.K., so I bought an SGL21 a while back and I am not a big fan of the trigger that it came with so I want to change it. The first thing that came to my mind was the Tapco G2 because they feel pretty good, however I want to keep this rifle Tapco free so I really would like to find a alternative that is equal to or greater than a G2. I heard that Texas AK Triggers is supposed to have triggers that are just like the ones used in Russia but I have never actually fired a gun with one on it so I dont know if it is going to be better or worse than what is on my rifle now. So I come to you guys for advice, what do you suggest I do? |
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Nothing wrong with a Tapco G2 trigger. I have them in almost all of my AKs. They were originally designed and made by Jerry Gordon of the Gordon Tech milled AKs. He used to build some custom rifles for Global Trades. He sold the rights of the G2 to Tapco.
Do the Texas Triggers only come in double hook style? If so you may need to modify your Saiga receiver for them to work. I've done it for double hook triggers. The Texas trigger is just another US made trigger from a former owner/employee of Global Trades. No better or worse than a G2 probably. If you pick up the current Guns and Ammo AK magazine it has a guide for install of FCG also. Get an RSA or Tapco trigger plate to simplify install. Zip tie the hammer spring over the hammer ears before removal and install. |
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I am not saying there is anything wrong with the Tapco trigger, in fact I actually like them, I would go so far to say that the G2 is one of the very few things they make that I actually like. I just wanted to try to keep this rifle Tapco free, but if I cannot find an acceptable alternative I will probably end up having to go with the G2. You do bring up a good point about the double hooks on the Texas AK Trigger though, I had not realized that until you pointed it out. As far as installation goes I have done it before so I should be OK on that part, and it did take some trial and error the first time, those damn shepherds crook pins are a pain.
Any other suggestions? Anyone else have any experience with good AK triggers they would like to share? |
What you're saying doesn't make much sense to me... you like Tapco triggers, but don't want to use it because it has the word Tapco on the side of it? I have Tapco's in both of my SGL-21's, and will be putting one in my SLR107UR just as soon as I can get one. I don't really have any experience with any other "good" ak triggers, because once I found the Tapco, there was no need for me to try any other one. If they ever change them, or the quality gets poor on them, I'd probably change to something else. For now though, they are the best I've found, and I'm not above using a Tapco trigger. Now as for everything else Tapco makes... 
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What you're saying doesn't make much sense to me... you like Tapco triggers, but don't want to use it because it has the word Tapco on the side of it? I have Tapco's in both of my SGL-21's, and will be putting one in my SLR107UR just as soon as I can get one. I don't really have any experience with any other "good" ak triggers, because once I found the Tapco, there was no need for me to try any other one. If they ever change them, or the quality gets poor on them, I'd probably change to something else. For now though, they are the best I've found, and I'm not above using a Tapco trigger. Now as for everything else Tapco makes... Yes, I know it seems a bit silly. I do like the trigger but if I can find an alternative that is just as good or better and not have to give money to a company that makes mostly shitty products then I would like to. However as I said, if I cannot find a good alternative then I will probably just get another G2. |
| I have a couple of guns that were built with FSE trigger parts. Remember the G2 single hook trigger is the double hook style with a hook cut off. The FSE is a true single hook style trigger. Not that anything is wrong with a single hook trigger that looks like a double hook, but FSE is a good alternative. GARY N4KVE |
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I have a couple of guns that were built with FSE trigger parts. Remember the G2 single hook trigger is the double hook style with a hook cut off. The FSE is a true single hook style trigger. Not that anything is wrong with a single hook trigger that looks like a double hook, but FSE is a good alternative. GARY N4KVE I am not familiar with FSE triggers, please elaborate. How do they feel compared to the G2 and the stock Arsenal triggers? I did a quick Google search for them and did not see anywhere selling them, do you know of anywhere that I would be able to order on from? |
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FSE-First Son Entreprises. Years ago they were one of the first US made FCGs available and they had some that were not correctly heat treated.
I have used the more recent ones in a rifle or two. The problem is finding someone that actually carries them. FSE RPB used to carry them but I don't even know if they still have an active website. RPB Arsenal or K-VAR also makes a fire control group but when they switched to MIM (Metal Injection Molding) they had problems with the parts breaking. If your parts count is correct by using other parts just put an actual foreign fire control group in you rifle. You can do this by using a 3 piece US stockset, mag baseplates and followers, gas piston, US muzzle device, I believe most foreign fire control groups are made from bar stock and milled out instead of castings that most US FCGs are made from. I've seen some Bulgarian triggers that appeared cast but the older double hook triggers are milled. If you modify your receiver for a double hook trigger then one of these sets would work fine. You can tell a cast part from the line down the center of the part such as on the hammer. I've probably got some milled Semi-auto Bulgarian double hook FCGs stashed away I could part with one. I also have foreign milled single hook FCGs laying around somewhere. A polish job on one of these will usually give a better trigger than a US one and the part will likely be stronger. |
| In my case the smith who 922'd my Saiga had a bunch of FSE parts in stock. However if you change other parts like the above poster said you could use imported trigger parts. Over the years I have found foreign trigger parts from people who installed US trigger parts in their guns. I have lots of Chinese double hook sets, but I've found nice Hungarian & Egyptian single hook sets in these forums. Never paid more than $15 per set. People just pull them out of their guns & they sit in a drawer, so to them $15 is found money. GARY N4KVE |
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Nothing wrong with a Tapco G2 trigger. I have them in almost all of my AKs. They were originally designed and made by Jerry Gordon of the Gordon Tech milled AKs. He used to build some custom rifles for Global Trades. He sold the rights of the G2 to Tapco. Do the Texas Triggers only come in double hook style? If so you may need to modify your Saiga receiver for them to work. I've done it for double hook triggers. The Texas trigger is just another US made trigger from a former owner/employee of Global Trades. No better or worse than a G2 probably. If you pick up the current Guns and Ammo AK magazine it has a guide for install of FCG also. Get an RSA or Tapco trigger plate to simplify install. Zip tie the hammer spring over the hammer ears before removal and install. What's the best set of instructions online for changing out a trigger, and do I really need to buy a "trigger plate" or can I get by with my shepherd's hook? |
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What's the best set of instructions online for changing out a trigger, and do I really need to buy a "trigger plate" or can I get by with my shepherd's hook? It's a lot easier (to me) with the plates. Nothing wrong with the hooks. Illustrated instructions in PDF format: http://guns.wolfcrews.com/ak47/pdf_files/AKDude_Trigger_Group.pdf I'm sure there are others out there. 
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The RSA and Tapco plates can be bought for $5.00. They allow you to install the fire control group in about a minute. I've got problems with my hands lately that cause me to take about 10-15 minutes in getting a FCG installed using a shepard's hook. The time saved is worth getting a trigger plate to me. The Chinese type retainers cost a couple bucks and they are easy to put in also. But still not as easy as a trigger plate.
Tie your hammer spring up over the hammer will make install and removal easier. |
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