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Posted: 3/3/2011 8:11:52 AM EDT
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Hi everyone!
I'm looking at getting an AK-47 Underfolder for my truck due to its compact nature. The rifle would have a red dot mounted. I'm not a fan of side folders due to bulk and look. My questions are: Any other underfolder rifles? I'm aware of the M-1 Carbine aftermarket UF and the Kel-Tec SU-16C, however both I'm not impressed by. The Kel Tec was promising, but the lack of a pistol grip turned me off. How does the stock angle affect shooting? I've noticed there are two types of UF stocks, one that is straight and the other that is angled. Angled Stock Romanian WASR w/ Chrome-Lined Barrel http://www.classicarms.us/images/ROMAK-UF.jpg Straight Stock Romanian WASR Upgrade without Chrome-Lined Barrel http://www.classicarms.us/images/AKMS-RIFLE.jpg Can the angled stock be replaced by a straight stock? Any recommendations on AK47 UFs to buy? I'm looking at an inexpensive WASR, mainly due to the abuse of being in the truck and potential for theft. Any comments or thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks. |
| The rear block from the angled stock is different in shape and hole pattern when compared to the rear block with the straight stock. The angled stock setup uses one locking yoke, the straight stock uses two locking yokes. In order to switch from an angled stock to a straight stock, two more holes would need to be drilled in the right side of the receiver (at 3 and 9 o'clock to the axle hole) to allow the locking yoke on the right side to lock up. |
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There's no such thing as a WASR "upgrage" without the chrome lined barrel. In addition, the picture you posted shows a receiver with indentations atthe magazine well. WASRs do not have those.
The rifle pictured may have been assembled from a Romanian kit on a US made receiver with a non-Romanian folding stock and stock block. |
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I bought a Wasr and was very impressed with the build quality. The mags don't wobble and the sights are on straight. People get worked up about the lack of dimples, but functionally, it doesn't make any difference. If you can still get one with an original chromed barrel, that would be the way to go. For functional utility though, a romi/east german folder is even better. Not as compact and don't look as cool, but they offer a better cheekweld. |
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There's no such thing as a WASR "upgrage" without the chrome lined barrel. In addition, the picture you posted shows a receiver with indentations atthe magazine well. WASRs do not have those. The rifle pictured may have been assembled from a Romanian kit on a US made receiver with a non-Romanian folding stock and stock block. I realize it's not an "upgrade" after your post. Reading the Classic Arms website description better, I discovered that it is built off a new US mfg receiver and barrel. I was using it as an example of a straight stock. Thanks for the advice everyone. I'll look into a Yugo as well. I have a regular WASR GP 10/63 myself and have been impressed with it, I just hope if I get a WASR UF, the quality would carry over. Other than cheek weld, does the angled stock case any other problems? |
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Here's another UF question:
Can a ban era UF with a welded open stock be fixed to fold up again? A Sgt in my section has one that he claims he rarely ever fired and doesn't need anymore. It's a ban-era UF. He wants $350 for it. Not sure of the condition of the rifle or origin or any other info. Just something he mentioned last drill. I figured if I could get the stock to fold up again with little effort, then it wouldn't be a bad price. That's assuming it accepts double stack magazines and is threaded (hopefully a muzzle nut welded on). |
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I've been considering the Yugo UF. Not too worried about the lack of a chrome barrel.
However I'm curious about two things: 1) Weight: I've noticed it has a grenade sight and a thicker receiver. How does this affect the overall weight compared to a Romy UF? Can the grenade sight be removed since it is not needed? 2) Parts: How interchangeable are normal AK parts with the Yugo? What is the thread on the barrel? (14x1?) ––The only parts I'm concerned about are the pistol grip (would replace it with a Hogue), the muzzle brake, and handguards. |
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Quoted: I've been considering the Yugo UF. Not too worried about the lack of a chrome barrel. However I'm curious about two things: 1) Weight: I've noticed it has a grenade sight and a thicker receiver. How does this affect the overall weight compared to a Romy UF? Can the grenade sight be removed since it is not needed? The amount of weight added by the grenade sight and thicker receiver is miniscule compared to the weight added by the heavier barrel and RPK front trunnion of the Yugo. Even the gas blocks and FSBs of Yugos are significantly beefier/heavier than the Romy versions. Yugos are built like tanks, front to rear. It's not just one or two components that are heavier, it's many of them. 2) Parts: How interchangeable are normal AK parts with the Yugo? What is the thread on the barrel? (14x1?) ––The only parts I'm concerned about are the pistol grip (would replace it with a Hogue), the muzzle brake, and handguards. Barrel thread is 14x1, Yugos take standard AK grips (minor fitting around the PG nut rivets sometimes required), handguards are specific to Yugos, other variant handguards will not fit. Yugo handguards are typically longer than others. |
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