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Posted: 2/13/2015 10:37:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freedom556:
What!? I JUST ordered a SOCOM! Lol Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freedom556:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Anyone know when SF is supposed to release the SOCOM 2 cans? What!? I JUST ordered a SOCOM! Lol How long ago? They announced the SOCOM 2 at SHOT Show. |
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Posted: 2/13/2015 10:40:16 PM EST
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Well shit... all I heard about was the Ryder9... I just ordered the socom day ago.
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Posted: 2/13/2015 10:42:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: Advance]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freedom556: Well shit... all I heard about was the Ryder9... I just ordered the socom day ago. However, If you're getting it for a clone, the original would be more appropriate. |
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Posted: 2/13/2015 10:43:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freedom556:
What!? I JUST ordered a SOCOM! Lol Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freedom556:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Anyone know when SF is supposed to release the SOCOM 2 cans? What!? I JUST ordered a SOCOM! Lol SureFire announced the SOCOM 2 cans at SHOT. Supposed to be "much stronger." Guessing they beefed up the baffles, as the current SOCOM baffles get beaten up dang quickly. Depending on how "clone" correct you want to be, you may be better served with the current SOCOM though. I'm sure the diehard cloners will turn their noses up to the SOCOM 2s. |
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Posted: 2/13/2015 10:48:37 PM EST
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Any idea how long till the Socom-2 cans are available for purchase?
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Posted: 2/13/2015 10:51:37 PM EST
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Hey guys, can you tell me if the bolts on the receiver end of the rail have any markings on them?
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Posted: 2/13/2015 10:53:40 PM EST
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I know for cans cloners have limited options but the suppressor game is really heating up. SHOT showed off some new serious contenders (mostly ex-SC) with clever designs. I would get whatever can you really want and not limit yourself. YMMV.
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Posted: 2/13/2015 10:58:08 PM EST
[Last Edit: AR-Ryan21]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RussellAthletic:
I know for cans cloners have limited options but the suppressor game is really heating up. SHOT showed off some new serious contenders (mostly ex-SC) with clever designs. I would get whatever can you really want and not limit yourself. YMMV. Agreed. SilencerCo is who to really look out for right now. They've positioned themselves to take the entire can game by storm. Still think a SOCOM 2 will be my next can purchase though. My CQBRs are just screaming for an FDE can. And no, I just can't bring myself to rattle can any of my current cans. |
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Posted: 2/13/2015 11:00:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: Advance]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dinnertime: Hey guys, can you tell me if the bolts on the receiver end of the rail have any markings on them? Nope, just ridges.  EDIT: Actually they do. I'll post pics in a bit. |
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Posted: 2/13/2015 11:02:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: Dinnertime]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42:
Nope, just ridges. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42:
Originally Posted By Dinnertime:
Hey guys, can you tell me if the bolts on the receiver end of the rail have any markings on them? Nope, just ridges. I should have also asked when was your rail approximately made as well. This one has something printed on the bolts, can't tell what it is though. 
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Posted: 2/13/2015 11:03:21 PM EST
[Last Edit: wayfaerer320]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21: Agreed. SilencerCo is who to really look out for right now. They've positioned themselves to take the entire can game by storm. Still think a SOCOM 2 will be my next can purchase though. My CQBRs are just screaming for an FDE can. And no, I just can't bring myself to rattle can any of my current cans. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21: Originally Posted By RussellAthletic: I know for cans cloners have limited options but the suppressor game is really heating up. SHOT showed off some new serious contenders (mostly ex-SC) with clever designs. I would get whatever can you really want and not limit yourself. YMMV. Agreed. SilencerCo is who to really look out for right now. They've positioned themselves to take the entire can game by storm. Still think a SOCOM 2 will be my next can purchase though. My CQBRs are just screaming for an FDE can. And no, I just can't bring myself to rattle can any of my current cans. Aesthetically, what's the difference on the outside between the current SOCOM RC and the new SOCOM 2? Do they look exactly the same? Is the only difference the updated internals? |
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Posted: 2/13/2015 11:11:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320:
Aesthetically, what's the difference on the outside between the current SOCOM RC and the new SOCOM 2? Do they look exactly the same? Is the only difference the updated internals? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By RussellAthletic:
I know for cans cloners have limited options but the suppressor game is really heating up. SHOT showed off some new serious contenders (mostly ex-SC) with clever designs. I would get whatever can you really want and not limit yourself. YMMV. Agreed. SilencerCo is who to really look out for right now. They've positioned themselves to take the entire can game by storm. Still think a SOCOM 2 will be my next can purchase though. My CQBRs are just screaming for an FDE can. And no, I just can't bring myself to rattle can any of my current cans. Aesthetically, what's the difference on the outside between the current SOCOM RC and the new SOCOM 2? Do they look exactly the same? Is the only difference the updated internals? I'd have to watch the video from SHOT again to try and see aesthetic differences. It looked similar. Perhaps some pics taken at SHOT are floating around somewhere. That'd be the best bet. If they look essentially identical, it'd be very tough to argue not going with the SOCOM 2. |
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Posted: 2/13/2015 11:13:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21: I'd have to watch the video from SHOT again to try and see aesthetic differences. It looked similar. Perhaps some pics taken at SHOT are floating around somewhere. That'd be the best bet. If they look essentially identical, it'd be very tough to argue not going with the SOCOM 2. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21: Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21: Originally Posted By RussellAthletic: I know for cans cloners have limited options but the suppressor game is really heating up. SHOT showed off some new serious contenders (mostly ex-SC) with clever designs. I would get whatever can you really want and not limit yourself. YMMV. Agreed. SilencerCo is who to really look out for right now. They've positioned themselves to take the entire can game by storm. Still think a SOCOM 2 will be my next can purchase though. My CQBRs are just screaming for an FDE can. And no, I just can't bring myself to rattle can any of my current cans. Aesthetically, what's the difference on the outside between the current SOCOM RC and the new SOCOM 2? Do they look exactly the same? Is the only difference the updated internals? I'd have to watch the video from SHOT again to try and see aesthetic differences. It looked similar. Perhaps some pics taken at SHOT are floating around somewhere. That'd be the best bet. If they look essentially identical, it'd be very tough to argue not going with the SOCOM 2. That's what I was thinking as well - would be interesting to see them side by side. |
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Posted: 2/13/2015 11:15:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dinnertime: I should have also asked when was your rail approximately made as well. This one has something printed on the bolts, can't tell what it is though. http://ods.org/~doofoo/mk18/DSC_3847.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dinnertime: Originally Posted By PFran42: Originally Posted By Dinnertime: Hey guys, can you tell me if the bolts on the receiver end of the rail have any markings on them? Nope, just ridges. I should have also asked when was your rail approximately made as well. This one has something printed on the bolts, can't tell what it is though. http://ods.org/~doofoo/mk18/DSC_3847.jpg YFS   |
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Posted: 2/13/2015 11:20:36 PM EST
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If it's really that much stronger, it's probably also heavier. And I very highly doubt that any shooter (besides those doing mag dumps with m16s) will ever really be able to wear out standard socom. I really don't want to wait any longer. I'm an impatient bastard as it is...
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Posted: 2/13/2015 11:30:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RussellAthletic:
I know for cans cloners have limited options but the suppressor game is really heating up. SHOT showed off some new serious contenders (mostly ex-SC) with clever designs. I would get whatever can you really want and not limit yourself. YMMV. This. I can kind of see it with other, less expensive items, but it seems really stupid to spend around $1000 on something like a can (not to mention stamp, what it costs to setup a trust, and time invested) and intentionally buy an inferior product to impress some guys on the internet. I guarantee you the guys carrying the rifle everyone is trying to clone would rather have the functionally-superior can given the choice. But whatever. Your money. |
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Posted: 2/13/2015 11:30:53 PM EST
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Sorry if im going off topic but what case are you using for your rifle. Strictly Pelican? Are there any soft cases anyone recommends?
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Posted: 2/13/2015 11:31:00 PM EST
[Last Edit: AR-Ryan21]
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freedom556:
If it's really that much stronger, it's probably also heavier. And I very highly doubt that any shooter (besides those doing mag dumps with m16s) will ever really be able to wear out standard socom. I really don't want to wait any longer. I'm an impatient bastard as it is... Go for the current SOCOM for sure. Certainly a great can, and perfect for a clone. In regards to only people doing mag dumps with M16s being able to shoot out the current SOCOM cans, I disagree. 10.3" 5.56 rifles, especially with flash hiders, blast a ton of unburnt powder. They beat the shit out of cans. The current SOCOMs seem to be a tad weak in the baffle department as well. I've seen some current SOCOMs with just a few thousand rounds of non extreme semi auto fire out of a 10.3" barrel with a flash hider. They already start to show some decent wear. Not the biggest deal to most, but it's been something that hasn't just been a few isolated incidents. It's safe to say there was a good reason why SureFire already came up with a SOCOM 2 so quickly after the release of their current SOCOM. Fortunately, SureFire offers to replace the cores of their current SOCOMs when they're shot out. |
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Posted: 2/13/2015 11:39:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Go for the current SOCOM for sure. Certainly a great can, and perfect for a clone. In regards to only people doing mag dumps with M16s being able to shoot out the current SOCOM cans, I disagree. 10.3" 5.56 rifles, especially with flash hiders, blast a ton of unburnt powder. They beat the shit out of cans. The current SOCOMs seem to be a tad weak in the baffle department as well. I've seen some current SOCOMs with just a few thousand rounds of non extreme semi auto fire out of a 10.3" barrel with a flash hider. They already start to show some decent wear. Not the biggest deal to most, but it's been something that hasn't just been a few isolated incidents. It's safe to say there was a good reason why SureFire already came up with a SOCOM 2 so quickly after the release of their current SOCOM. Fortunately, SureFire offers to replace the cores of their current SOCOMs when they're shot out. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By Freedom556:
If it's really that much stronger, it's probably also heavier. And I very highly doubt that any shooter (besides those doing mag dumps with m16s) will ever really be able to wear out standard socom. I really don't want to wait any longer. I'm an impatient bastard as it is... Go for the current SOCOM for sure. Certainly a great can, and perfect for a clone. In regards to only people doing mag dumps with M16s being able to shoot out the current SOCOM cans, I disagree. 10.3" 5.56 rifles, especially with flash hiders, blast a ton of unburnt powder. They beat the shit out of cans. The current SOCOMs seem to be a tad weak in the baffle department as well. I've seen some current SOCOMs with just a few thousand rounds of non extreme semi auto fire out of a 10.3" barrel with a flash hider. They already start to show some decent wear. Not the biggest deal to most, but it's been something that hasn't just been a few isolated incidents. It's safe to say there was a good reason why SureFire already came up with a SOCOM 2 so quickly after the release of their current SOCOM. Fortunately, SureFire offers to replace the cores of their current SOCOMs when they're shot out. My socom shows significant wear with only 500 rounds. If I can get the POS off my rifle I'll take pictures. GO SOCOM 2 or not surefire at all |
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Posted: 2/13/2015 11:44:17 PM EST
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FireClean is your friend.
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Posted: 2/13/2015 11:50:12 PM EST
[Last Edit: hatexoc]
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
FireClean is your friend. I have dumped a while tube of it on the mount, the only way is to shoot it off I've voiced my stance on this can since the first time I shot it. 100% over rated if I paid more than $930 for it I'd be mad But hey, it's for my clone so whatever |
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Posted: 2/13/2015 11:52:24 PM EST
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Somewhere far less thank 1k 
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Posted: 2/13/2015 11:54:11 PM EST
[Last Edit: Freedom556]
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If I would have asked about the surefire before they mentioned the socom 2, I probably would have everyone saying to go with the socom over other cans though is the thing. If it was good enough last year, it should be good enough for me now... no? Also what happens if you wear out a can that is no longer in production? Do they just rebuild it to the original specs or would they update it?
ETA: I did just EmaIL silencershop to ask about the socom 2. I'm guessing I won't get a response until monday. |
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Posted: 2/13/2015 11:55:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: Advance]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WE-06: This. I can kind of see it with other, less expensive items, but it seems really stupid to spend around $1000 on something like a can (not to mention stamp, what it costs to setup a trust, and time invested) and intentionally buy an inferior product to impress some guys on the internet. I guarantee you the guys carrying the rifle everyone is trying to clone would rather have the functionally-superior can given the choice. But whatever. Your money. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WE-06: Originally Posted By RussellAthletic: I know for cans cloners have limited options but the suppressor game is really heating up. SHOT showed off some new serious contenders (mostly ex-SC) with clever designs. I would get whatever can you really want and not limit yourself. YMMV. This. I can kind of see it with other, less expensive items, but it seems really stupid to spend around $1000 on something like a can (not to mention stamp, what it costs to setup a trust, and time invested) and intentionally buy an inferior product to impress some guys on the internet. I guarantee you the guys carrying the rifle everyone is trying to clone would rather have the functionally-superior can given the choice. But whatever. Your money. For example, I think my Noveske/AXTS SBR is better than my CQBR clone in just about every quantifiable regard. Guess which SBR my wife found laying across my chest when I fell asleep admiring it. (Hint: it's not all black).   |
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Posted: 2/14/2015 12:07:48 AM EST
[Last Edit: Advance]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hatexoc: http://i1263.photobucket.com/albums/ii640/hatexoc/5B32A341-35DA-4464-93EA-53888C817669_zpscttl2bqn.jpg Somewhere far less thank 1k Remember that the SF 4 prong FH match up with the gas relief holes in the SOCOM can. I'm guessing it was probably designed that way as to help reduce the baffle wear you are experiencing. |
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Posted: 2/14/2015 12:11:08 AM EST
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I've read posts that were posted in the last few months that stated over and over again That most people couldn't afford to wear out a socom, and that if/when you did they would rebuild it. Now that there is a "new" model out the truth is starting to come out It looks like.
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Posted: 2/14/2015 12:14:01 AM EST
[Last Edit: StevieJ309]
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Here's the SF video again. Looks like the front bezel on the SOCOM 2 has a different design and is recessed - should be easy to differentiate it from a SOCOM 1. "New welding technology and new manufacturing process - stronger than the original". Somewhat vague statement, but if I had to guess I think it's more in terms of physical strength rather than stronger/more wear resistant baffles.
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Posted: 2/14/2015 12:24:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevieJ309:
Here's the SF video again. Looks like the front bezel on the SOCOM 2 has a different design and is recessed - should be easy to differentiate it from a SOCOM 1. "New welding technology and new manufacturing process - stronger than the original". Somewhat vague statement, but if I had to guess I think it's more in terms of physical strength rather than stronger/more wear resistant baffles.  http://youtu.be/uNDjhwF4ghINot sure how lacking the previous SOCOMs were in physical strength. The baffles, well, that's a different story. Is a vague statement though. I'd like to hear more details about the differences from SureFire themselves - which they will hopefully do when the SOCOM 2s are released. If the baffles aren't improved, I'll likely go another direction. Although, I'll surely be running a brake, so I shouldn't see the same kind of premature wear others are. So who knows. I just know that I want two more 5.56 cans, and one more 7.62 can. |
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Posted: 2/14/2015 12:29:59 AM EST
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Well, finally got some decent quality pics of everything set up. I think I'm pretty much finalized on everything and it's placement. Now all I need is a suppressor, but I think I'm going to wait for the SF SOCOM 2, no matter how "clone incorrect" it is. From what I saw, externally it is very similar, so not that big of a deal in my book.
Last but not least, my "SOPMOD Kit." 
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Posted: 2/14/2015 12:30:47 AM EST
[#30]
10.3 bbls are tough on baffles! Who knew?
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Posted: 2/14/2015 5:57:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: If you really think about it, it's kind of stupid to spend $7-9K on a MK18/CQBR (non select fire) clone... but a lot of people are doing it. There is a better part out there for just about anything in the SOPMOD kit as well as the components for the base rifle. See where your position on the matter is going? For example, I think my Noveske/AXTS SBR is better than my CQBR clone in just about every quantifiable regard. Guess which SBR my wife found laying across my chest when I fell asleep admiring it. (Hint: it's not all black). https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-MLkJi7Kg8zk/VBoX4MvoBEI/AAAAAAABIiU/mBNQjvaNWmo/w1869-h1302-no/DSC_0335.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-I1AbRdC4Jzo/VNPSAdjNsdI/AAAAAAABTYE/LFuQPUFEf1w/w2078-h1385-no/DSC_0471.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: Originally Posted By WE-06: Originally Posted By RussellAthletic: For example, I think my Noveske/AXTS SBR is better than my CQBR clone in just about every quantifiable regard. Guess which SBR my wife found laying across my chest when I fell asleep admiring it. (Hint: it's not all black). https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-MLkJi7Kg8zk/VBoX4MvoBEI/AAAAAAABIiU/mBNQjvaNWmo/w1869-h1302-no/DSC_0335.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-I1AbRdC4Jzo/VNPSAdjNsdI/AAAAAAABTYE/LFuQPUFEf1w/w2078-h1385-no/DSC_0471.JPG However, to me a NFA purchase is a different animal. We've all bought parts and then turned around and sold them. Maybe even re-bought the same item down the road (I'm guilty). No harm no foul with most parts. Just look at the EE. A can however is essentially a lifetime purchase. I love the NT4 as much as the next guy but I'm not about to drop that kind of dough to hang an ancient 2lb suppressor off the end of my barrel.My point is I won't be judging anybody with a different can on their rig. If you have a suppressed CQBR you are cool in my book. |
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Posted: 2/14/2015 7:06:15 AM EST
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On mine it looks like "YFS"
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dinnertime:
I should have also asked when was your rail approximately made as well. This one has something printed on the bolts, can't tell what it is though. http://ods.org/~doofoo/mk18/DSC_3847.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dinnertime:
Originally Posted By PFran42:
Originally Posted By Dinnertime:
Hey guys, can you tell me if the bolts on the receiver end of the rail have any markings on them? Nope, just ridges. I should have also asked when was your rail approximately made as well. This one has something printed on the bolts, can't tell what it is though. http://ods.org/~doofoo/mk18/DSC_3847.jpg |
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Posted: 2/14/2015 7:11:24 AM EST
[Last Edit: Jax_Guns]
[#33]
That NT4 will still be working while the SF can will have been back to the manufacturers a couple times for new a core. They are rated for 30K rounds of a mix of FA/SA and supposedly are able to last 60K + in SA only.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RussellAthletic:
You're exactly right that the clone game is silly from a practical stand point. But who cares about practicality? However, to me a NFA purchase is a different animal. We've all bought parts and then turned around and sold them. Maybe even re-bought the same item down the road (I'm guilty). No harm no foul with most parts. Just look at the EE. A can however is essentially a lifetime purchase. I love the NT4 as much as the next guy but I'm not about to drop that kind of dough to hang an ancient 2lb suppressor off the end of my barrel.
My point is I won't be judging anybody with a different can on their rig. If you have a suppressed CQBR you are cool in my book. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RussellAthletic:
Originally Posted By PFran42:
Originally Posted By WE-06:
Originally Posted By RussellAthletic:
For example, I think my Noveske/AXTS SBR is better than my CQBR clone in just about every quantifiable regard. Guess which SBR my wife found laying across my chest when I fell asleep admiring it. (Hint: it's not all black). https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-MLkJi7Kg8zk/VBoX4MvoBEI/AAAAAAABIiU/mBNQjvaNWmo/w1869-h1302-no/DSC_0335.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-I1AbRdC4Jzo/VNPSAdjNsdI/AAAAAAABTYE/LFuQPUFEf1w/w2078-h1385-no/DSC_0471.JPG However, to me a NFA purchase is a different animal. We've all bought parts and then turned around and sold them. Maybe even re-bought the same item down the road (I'm guilty). No harm no foul with most parts. Just look at the EE. A can however is essentially a lifetime purchase. I love the NT4 as much as the next guy but I'm not about to drop that kind of dough to hang an ancient 2lb suppressor off the end of my barrel.
My point is I won't be judging anybody with a different can on their rig. If you have a suppressed CQBR you are cool in my book. |
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Posted: 2/14/2015 7:39:14 AM EST
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I won't dispute the ruggedness of the NT4 but I'll take a lighter, smaller, quieter suppressor with a better mounting system and a company that has great CS to service the can. The new designs with stellite baffles, 17-4 PH mounts and tubes, and replaceable end caps are calling my name.
This is not a bash on KAC at all. Love their products and own many of them, I just won't own a KAC can. |
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Posted: 2/14/2015 7:59:24 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hatexoc:
<a href="http://s1263.photobucket.com/user/hatexoc/media/5B32A341-35DA-4464-93EA-53888C817669_zpscttl2bqn.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1263.photobucket.com/albums/ii640/hatexoc/5B32A341-35DA-4464-93EA-53888C817669_zpscttl2bqn.jpg</a> Somewhere far less thank 1k How much of that is actual wear and how much of it is carbon built up?.....looks like buildup that has that one hole misshaped, not an enlargement of the hole itself.........but hard to tell in a pic. |
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Posted: 2/14/2015 8:42:09 AM EST
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I haven’t seen a rifle caliber suppressor that has replaceable end caps - or is user serviceable - was one announced at SHOT? That would be a great ideal, make a tube like a tank but use light baffles and other materials. Wear out the inside just swap parts as needed, no need for an expensive rebuild.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RussellAthletic:
I won't dispute the ruggedness of the NT4 but I'll take a lighter, smaller, quieter suppressor with a better mounting system and a company that has great CS to service the can. The new designs with stellite baffles, 17-4 PH mounts and tubes, and replaceable end caps are calling my name. This is not a bash on KAC at all. Love their products and own many of them, I just won't own a KAC can. |
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Posted: 2/14/2015 9:04:42 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42:
If you really think about it, it's kind of stupid to spend $7-9K on a MK18/CQBR (non select fire) clone... but a lot of people are doing it. There is a better part out there for just about anything in the SOPMOD kit as well as the components for the base rifle. See where your position on the matter is going? For example, I think my Noveske/AXTS SBR is better than my CQBR clone in just about every quantifiable regard. Guess which SBR my wife found laying across my chest when I fell asleep admiring it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42:
Originally Posted By WE-06:
Originally Posted By RussellAthletic:
I know for cans cloners have limited options but the suppressor game is really heating up. SHOT showed off some new serious contenders (mostly ex-SC) with clever designs. I would get whatever can you really want and not limit yourself. YMMV. This. I can kind of see it with other, less expensive items, but it seems really stupid to spend around $1000 on something like a can (not to mention stamp, what it costs to setup a trust, and time invested) and intentionally buy an inferior product to impress some guys on the internet. I guarantee you the guys carrying the rifle everyone is trying to clone would rather have the functionally-superior can given the choice. But whatever. Your money. For example, I think my Noveske/AXTS SBR is better than my CQBR clone in just about every quantifiable regard. Guess which SBR my wife found laying across my chest when I fell asleep admiring it. See this is where I think it becomes a bit subjective, but maybe I just think so because my "CQBR" isn't one at all as far as the scope of this thread goes. But my point is, I could argue that the RIS II is better than a keymod system for my uses. The Elcan or EXPS3 are great optics. The SOPMOD stock rivals anything on the market as far as I'm concerned. I have a VLTOR, but it's no better than the SOPMOD. I think the WMX-200 is garbage but there are clone correct SF lights that are great. All of that is different than the gentleman in here who just said he has considerable baffle wear after 500 rounds and has to shoot his can off everytime he wants to remove it. That frankly sounds like a piece of shit compared to my Specwar, and guess who paid less. Let me guess, the SOCOM 2 also has all new muzzle devices too right? That won't be included with the purchase of a can? Racket. Thank you for the mature and thoughtful response. I like a good discussion, and I'm not here to offend anyone who owns the SOCOM or who has very strict clones. I like looking at the clones which is why I frequent this thread, even if a very strict one is not for me. |
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Posted: 2/14/2015 10:57:15 AM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hatexoc: http://i1263.photobucket.com/albums/ii640/hatexoc/5B32A341-35DA-4464-93EA-53888C817669_zpscttl2bqn.jpg Somewhere far less thank 1k Isn't that just carbon build up? As opposed to actual wear? |
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Posted: 2/14/2015 11:18:44 AM EST
[#39]
Mine looks nothing like that with over 3K rounds through it on FA and Semi.
Not to mention comes off pretty easily with no extra applications applied to the MD. |
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Posted: 2/14/2015 11:28:48 AM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte: Mine looks nothing like that with over 3K rounds through it on FA and Semi. Not to mention comes off pretty easily with no extra applications applied to the MD. What gives then? Is it that you're using a brake instead of a flash hider? Or something else? 500 rounds looking like that vs 3000 rounds in yours looking "nothing like that" - how? |
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Posted: 2/14/2015 11:33:46 AM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320:
What gives then? Is it that you're using a brake instead of a flash hider? Or something else? 500 rounds looking like that vs 3000 rounds in yours looking "nothing like that" - how? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320:
Originally Posted By ECPrevatte:
Mine looks nothing like that with over 3K rounds through it on FA and Semi. Not to mention comes off pretty easily with no extra applications applied to the MD. What gives then? Is it that you're using a brake instead of a flash hider? Or something else? 500 rounds looking like that vs 3000 rounds in yours looking "nothing like that" - how? I don't know, but nothing about his image screams you're wearing a baffle out. It looks normal to me and without seeing before pictures it'a moot point. I was using a brake, but if you own a can and don't fully understand the brake vs. FH argument than you shouldn't own a suppressor to begin with because it's beat to death. I have two hundred rounds on auto down the SF4P and it doesn't look close to that even after 3K on a brake. |
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Posted: 2/14/2015 11:38:01 AM EST
[#42]
Because I think taking one person's word for something or using that single picture as evidence against a SF can is silly:
I'm not a suppressor guru, but I'm not concerned about shooting my suppressor out any time soon. |
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Posted: 2/14/2015 12:23:12 PM EST
[#43]
3,500 rds give or take and a 3P. Judge for yourselves, I love this can. It would stick when I first got it; however, I have never had to shoot it off. I switched to Fireclean, no more issues. I run Fireclean on anything Suppressed. If it's good enough for SOCOM and LAV, it's good enough for me!
I only wish I kept Ryan's supply levels of this stuff.
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Posted: 2/14/2015 12:32:17 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RJeff21:
Well, finally got some decent quality pics of everything set up. I think I'm pretty much finalized on everything and it's placement. Now all I need is a suppressor, but I think I'm going to wait for the SF SOCOM 2, no matter how "clone incorrect" it is. From what I saw, externally it is very similar, so not that big of a deal in my book. https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7357/16336995660_794c47fa3e_b.jpg https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7354/16336996160_fc768838bc_b.jpg https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7329/16338552817_15b1cb857c_b.jpg Last but not least, my "SOPMOD Kit."
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8667/16336994900_8983ba7aae_b.jpg Does everything fit pretty tight in there? Is that a 'low rise' foam that goes into the Pelican 1700 that makes it so that you do not have to cut the foam to form factor? I'd be interested in a Pelican if the foam did not need to be cut in order to sandwich rifles into it. |
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Posted: 2/14/2015 12:57:32 PM EST
[#45]
Still a sucker for the 553.
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Posted: 2/14/2015 1:10:51 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte:
Still a sucker for the 553. <a href="https://flic.kr/p/r9kew9" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7459/16503203776_a5bf152767_b.jpg</a> <a href="https://flic.kr/p/qUaQyF" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7432/16342939599_f56d9a0ab4_b.jpg</a> That gun's gonna explode and kill babies everywhere. You bridged the gap.
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Posted: 2/14/2015 1:40:42 PM EST
[#47]
Was able to get a WMX ordered from optics planet, they said 1-2 weeks until it ships.
We shall see. |
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Posted: 2/14/2015 3:07:10 PM EST
[#48]
All PMs have been replied to! Not trying to spam the thread, just figured I'd give y'all mk18 guys first dibs before I make an EE post. If they even last that long.
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Posted: 2/14/2015 3:29:10 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dinnertime:
I should have also asked when was your rail approximately made as well. This one has something printed on the bolts, can't tell what it is though. http://ods.org/~doofoo/mk18/DSC_3847.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dinnertime:
Originally Posted By PFran42:
Originally Posted By Dinnertime:
Hey guys, can you tell me if the bolts on the receiver end of the rail have any markings on them? Nope, just ridges. I should have also asked when was your rail approximately made as well. This one has something printed on the bolts, can't tell what it is though. http://ods.org/~doofoo/mk18/DSC_3847.jpg Mine have what I think says "YFS" printed on the bolt head. It's so fucking tiny that it very well could say something else tho. Need a damn microscope to see that shit. |
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Posted: 2/14/2015 3:45:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmedFerret:
That gun's gonna explode and kill babies everywhere. You bridged the gap.
(I did too) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmedFerret:
Originally Posted By ECPrevatte:
Still a sucker for the 553. <a href="https://flic.kr/p/r9kew9" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7459/16503203776_a5bf152767_b.jpg</a> <a href="https://flic.kr/p/qUaQyF" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7432/16342939599_f56d9a0ab4_b.jpg</a> That gun's gonna explode and kill babies everywhere. You bridged the gap.
(I did too) Is this a jab at me?
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