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Posted: 5/30/2014 10:09:29 PM EST
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I like the look of the KAW precision more than any other linear comp.
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Posted: 5/30/2014 10:19:46 PM EST
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I ordered a couple of those BRT fluted, one for the .308. They claim them to be the same weight as an A2, and I think they look a bit nicer than some of those behemoths out there.
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Posted: 5/31/2014 3:33:00 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like the look of the KAW precision more than any other linear comp. Not terribly heavy at 2.9 oz, too. |
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Posted: 5/31/2014 5:23:00 AM EST
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Hera arms linear comps look pretty badass haven't used one but they probably work well and I have the claymore on 7.5 and really like it
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Posted: 5/31/2014 6:39:54 PM EST
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Anyone have experience shooting the BRT?
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Posted: 5/31/2014 7:32:36 PM EST
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I am running the KAW Valley. She is nice, sleek, and slim. Honestly I really don't get what everyone's fascination with the Ferfranz muzzle device is. To me it has always just looked big and bulky....
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Posted: 5/31/2014 7:49:51 PM EST
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I'm using a Troy Claymore on my 10.5" upper. I just built a 7.5" upper and decided to go with a STD (Simple Threaded Device) linear muzzle comp. It's very slim (.93" diameter), 1.66" long, and weighs 2.2oz.
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Posted: 6/2/2014 9:59:33 AM EST
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I'm using a Troy Claymore on my 10.5" upper. I just built a 7.5" upper and decided to go with a STD (Simple Threaded Device) linear muzzle comp. It's very slim (.93" diameter), 1.66" long, and weighs 2.2oz. How does it shoot in regards to side blast? |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 11:01:23 AM EST
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Anyone have experience shooting the BRT? I have that MD on a 300 BO. Oh.. and a 5.56 AR Performance barrel. Recoil reduction is better than naked barrel or a A2 FS. But what it is very good at is limiting flash and projecting the blast forward. Of course the multi-port comp does a better job at recoil reduction (but it is LOUD). The Black River linear is by no way ear safe (read a no ear plugs entry here) but it does not knock out your shooting buddies eyes if shooting side by side (10.5" barrel). Does look nice. |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 5:56:30 PM EST
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I have that MD on a 300 BO. Oh.. and a 5.56 AR Performance barrel. Recoil reduction is better than naked barrel or a A2 FS. But what it is very good at is limiting flash and projecting the blast forward. Of course the multi-port comp does a better job at recoil reduction (but it is LOUD). The Black River linear is by no way ear safe (read a no ear plugs entry here) but it does not knock out your shooting buddies eyes if shooting side by side (10.5" barrel). Does look nice. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone have experience shooting the BRT? I have that MD on a 300 BO. Oh.. and a 5.56 AR Performance barrel. Recoil reduction is better than naked barrel or a A2 FS. But what it is very good at is limiting flash and projecting the blast forward. Of course the multi-port comp does a better job at recoil reduction (but it is LOUD). The Black River linear is by no way ear safe (read a no ear plugs entry here) but it does not knock out your shooting buddies eyes if shooting side by side (10.5" barrel). Does look nice. Would an a2 or dedicated flash hider blow the person next to you's socks off? I read this article and the 51t blackout and be Meyers both were measured as being quieter than the std. From your personal experience, is the std quiter and better flash reduction than an a2? Here's the article http://vuurwapenblog.com/2014/01/12/ar-15-muzzle-device-comparison/ |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 6:01:32 PM EST
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Posted: 6/2/2014 6:13:01 PM EST
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I am very pleased with the Kies Master Blaster on my 10.5" SBR.
My experience is limited to this, the A2, and the Noveske KX3.  |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 6:17:56 PM EST
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Would an a2 or dedicated flash hider blow the person next to you's socks off? I read this article and the 51t blackout and be Meyers both were measured as being quieter than the std. From your personal experience, is the std quiter and better flash reduction than an a2? Here's the article http://vuurwapenblog.com/2014/01/12/ar-15-muzzle-device-comparison/ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone have experience shooting the BRT? I have that MD on a 300 BO. Oh.. and a 5.56 AR Performance barrel. Recoil reduction is better than naked barrel or a A2 FS. But what it is very good at is limiting flash and projecting the blast forward. Of course the multi-port comp does a better job at recoil reduction (but it is LOUD). The Black River linear is by no way ear safe (read a no ear plugs entry here) but it does not knock out your shooting buddies eyes if shooting side by side (10.5" barrel). Does look nice. Would an a2 or dedicated flash hider blow the person next to you's socks off? I read this article and the 51t blackout and be Meyers both were measured as being quieter than the std. From your personal experience, is the std quiter and better flash reduction than an a2? Here's the article http://vuurwapenblog.com/2014/01/12/ar-15-muzzle-device-comparison/ No. My Vortex, Rainier, and A2s are pleasant for the shooter next door. I am only getting the linears for my short barrels, and the .308 I will post about my purchase from BRT, waiting for a shipping confirmation. |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 6:39:49 PM EST
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My M4-2000 does a good job and doesn't piss off others at the range
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Posted: 6/2/2014 7:14:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryThis comp. looks awesome. But it weighs 7.5oz.. |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 7:57:03 PM EST
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No. My Vortex, Rainier, and A2s are pleasant for the shooter next door. I am only getting the linears for my short barrels, and the .308 I will post about my purchase from BRT, waiting for a shipping confirmation. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone have experience shooting the BRT? I have that MD on a 300 BO. Oh.. and a 5.56 AR Performance barrel. Recoil reduction is better than naked barrel or a A2 FS. But what it is very good at is limiting flash and projecting the blast forward. Of course the multi-port comp does a better job at recoil reduction (but it is LOUD). The Black River linear is by no way ear safe (read a no ear plugs entry here) but it does not knock out your shooting buddies eyes if shooting side by side (10.5" barrel). Does look nice. Would an a2 or dedicated flash hider blow the person next to you's socks off? I read this article and the 51t blackout and be Meyers both were measured as being quieter than the std. From your personal experience, is the std quiter and better flash reduction than an a2? Here's the article http://vuurwapenblog.com/2014/01/12/ar-15-muzzle-device-comparison/ No. My Vortex, Rainier, and A2s are pleasant for the shooter next door. I am only getting the linears for my short barrels, and the .308 I will post about my purchase from BRT, waiting for a shipping confirmation. I was referring to how an a2 or vortex type would be to neighborng shooters on an sbr. A brake is obvious how it would be, but if a linear comp ismt necessary and they are t bad with flash hiders I think I'd rather get the huge flash reduction. Maybe that's what u were referring to also? |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 8:06:34 PM EST
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I was referring to how an a2 or vortex type would be to neighborng shooters on an sbr. A brake is obvious how it would be, but if a linear comp ismt necessary and they are t bad with flash hiders I think I'd rather get the huge flash reduction. Maybe that's what u were referring to also? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone have experience shooting the BRT? I have that MD on a 300 BO. Oh.. and a 5.56 AR Performance barrel. Recoil reduction is better than naked barrel or a A2 FS. But what it is very good at is limiting flash and projecting the blast forward. Of course the multi-port comp does a better job at recoil reduction (but it is LOUD). The Black River linear is by no way ear safe (read a no ear plugs entry here) but it does not knock out your shooting buddies eyes if shooting side by side (10.5" barrel). Does look nice. Would an a2 or dedicated flash hider blow the person next to you's socks off? I read this article and the 51t blackout and be Meyers both were measured as being quieter than the std. From your personal experience, is the std quiter and better flash reduction than an a2? Here's the article http://vuurwapenblog.com/2014/01/12/ar-15-muzzle-device-comparison/ No. My Vortex, Rainier, and A2s are pleasant for the shooter next door. I am only getting the linears for my short barrels, and the .308 I will post about my purchase from BRT, waiting for a shipping confirmation. I was referring to how an a2 or vortex type would be to neighborng shooters on an sbr. A brake is obvious how it would be, but if a linear comp ismt necessary and they are t bad with flash hiders I think I'd rather get the huge flash reduction. Maybe that's what u were referring to also? The fireball from an SBR is certainly intimidating with a flashhider. I have seen them move to another stall, for sure |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 8:21:25 PM EST
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they all do basically the same thing- which ever is the lightest
edit- i had exaclty one person complain about the concussion of my a2 (on a 16" mid length barrel) |
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Posted: 6/6/2014 10:07:14 PM EST
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I just spun the BRT onto the .308, taking it out in the morning, and I will give a report vs. the Claymore. Likely similar. One thing for sure, this thing looks WAY better, and is well made.
The 5.56 is going on my 12.5 commando, and I am still waiting for the stamp 
They look great |
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Posted: 6/7/2014 7:11:23 AM EST
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This one intrigues me - not as effective as some others, perhaps, but still able to take a bayonet:
http://www.blackrivertactical.com/concrete5/covert-comp/ Know nothing about it other than the web page & someone on Night Crew mentioned them for their overgassed correction kit. |
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Posted: 6/7/2014 9:14:03 AM EST
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Posted: 6/7/2014 12:09:45 PM EST
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Posted: 6/7/2014 1:18:49 PM EST
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Just got back from the range. I am a fan of the BRT on my .308
My buddy commented that it was much more pleasant to be next to than the guy on the other side of him who was shooting an M1A. Felt recoil might be a bit less than the Claymore, but it is definitely smaller, and looks a hell of a lot less retarded than the Claymore. I put 250 rounds out of it today, more than I typically do on a range trip with the .308, but I just love my new Trijicon Accupoint though 
I suppose I could take pics of the dirty bitch. ETA Pics! 
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Posted: 6/7/2014 1:56:43 PM EST
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I have that MD on a 300 BO. Oh.. and a 5.56 AR Performance barrel. Recoil reduction is better than naked barrel or a A2 FS. But what it is very good at is limiting flash and projecting the blast forward. Of course the multi-port comp does a better job at recoil reduction (but it is LOUD). The Black River linear is by no way ear safe (read a no ear plugs entry here) but it does not knock out your shooting buddies eyes if shooting side by side (10.5" barrel). Does look nice. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone have experience shooting the BRT? I have that MD on a 300 BO. Oh.. and a 5.56 AR Performance barrel. Recoil reduction is better than naked barrel or a A2 FS. But what it is very good at is limiting flash and projecting the blast forward. Of course the multi-port comp does a better job at recoil reduction (but it is LOUD). The Black River linear is by no way ear safe (read a no ear plugs entry here) but it does not knock out your shooting buddies eyes if shooting side by side (10.5" barrel). Does look nice. Same here, sort of. 16" ARP .223 Wylde with the BRT and I get the same impression. I really like it and it looks nice. 
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Posted: 6/7/2014 3:51:34 PM EST
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Same here, sort of. 16" ARP .223 Wylde with the BRT and I get the same impression. I really like it and it looks nice. http://i789.photobucket.com/albums/yy172/pavlovwolf/2014-06/B27B5D8D-1731-43AD-9AFE-BCC1830DB6C0_zpskriggak2.jpg http://i789.photobucket.com/albums/yy172/pavlovwolf/photobucket-7432-1396560366407_zps0ffb1585.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone have experience shooting the BRT? I have that MD on a 300 BO. Oh.. and a 5.56 AR Performance barrel. Recoil reduction is better than naked barrel or a A2 FS. But what it is very good at is limiting flash and projecting the blast forward. Of course the multi-port comp does a better job at recoil reduction (but it is LOUD). The Black River linear is by no way ear safe (read a no ear plugs entry here) but it does not knock out your shooting buddies eyes if shooting side by side (10.5" barrel). Does look nice. Same here, sort of. 16" ARP .223 Wylde with the BRT and I get the same impression. I really like it and it looks nice. http://i789.photobucket.com/albums/yy172/pavlovwolf/2014-06/B27B5D8D-1731-43AD-9AFE-BCC1830DB6C0_zpskriggak2.jpg http://i789.photobucket.com/albums/yy172/pavlovwolf/photobucket-7432-1396560366407_zps0ffb1585.jpg Damn I'm tempted to try one of these for my shorty |
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Posted: 6/7/2014 4:41:28 PM EST
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I put a Levang comp on my MK18 pistol upper.
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Visible flash in daylight. . . . but at least it's better than this. 
Palmetto State Armory Pigsticker Comp (BattleComp knock-off) The A2 flash-hider actually didn't work very well either, but I didn't take any video of it. |
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Posted: 6/7/2014 5:29:52 PM EST
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What's wrong with 7.5 oz? Seriously? That's 1/2 a pound on the end of your rifle. You might as well tie a brick to the muzzle! |
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Posted: 6/7/2014 5:52:15 PM EST
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Anyone have experience shooting the BRT? I have that MD on a 300 BO. Oh.. and a 5.56 AR Performance barrel. Recoil reduction is better than naked barrel or a A2 FS. But what it is very good at is limiting flash and projecting the blast forward. Of course the multi-port comp does a better job at recoil reduction (but it is LOUD). The Black River linear is by no way ear safe (read a no ear plugs entry here) but it does not knock out your shooting buddies eyes if shooting side by side (10.5" barrel). Does look nice. Same here, sort of. 16" ARP .223 Wylde with the BRT and I get the same impression. I really like it and it looks nice. http://i789.photobucket.com/albums/yy172/pavlovwolf/2014-06/B27B5D8D-1731-43AD-9AFE-BCC1830DB6C0_zpskriggak2.jpg http://i789.photobucket.com/albums/yy172/pavlovwolf/photobucket-7432-1396560366407_zps0ffb1585.jpg Damn I'm tempted to try one of these for my shorty Shot 10.5" barrels with A2 type MD. Yea... they are fine, in bright sunlight. They really SUCK in a room and even with good ear pro the suck when you are next to someone shooting in a room. Traded out kids A2 type for the Kaw valley linear (on a 11.5" now) and it is so much better on flash and blast. And I did not have to do any indoor shooting to notice the difference. |
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Posted: 6/7/2014 8:38:04 PM EST
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Seriously? That's 1/2 a pound on the end of your rifle. You might as well tie a brick to the muzzle! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's wrong with 7.5 oz? Seriously? That's 1/2 a pound on the end of your rifle. You might as well tie a brick to the muzzle! What does half a pound on the end of your rifle prevent someone from doing? Suppressors are around 18oz |
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Posted: 6/8/2014 12:08:20 AM EST
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did anyone mentin the KAK cone shaped things. They are big and aluminium, about 4 oz IIRC for the slip lime.
Ballistic advantave also make one, the Kuna. I like my KAK one on my 5.45 upper. ETA PIC: 
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Posted: 6/8/2014 12:10:28 AM EST
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Just got back from the range. I am a fan of the BRT on my .308 My buddy commented that it was much more pleasant to be next to than the guy on the other side of him who was shooting an M1A. Felt recoil might be a bit less than the Claymore, but it is definitely smaller, and looks a hell of a lot less retarded than the Claymore. I put 250 rounds out of it today, more than I typically do on a range trip with the .308, but I just love my new Trijicon Accupoint though
I suppose I could take pics of the dirty bitch. ETA Pics! http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h385/alaskaLTZ/DSC00001_zpsafb030a6.jpg http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h385/alaskaLTZ/DSC00006_zpscf7d9ed8.jpg http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h385/alaskaLTZ/DSC00004_zpscd7fe6a8.jpg might have to sell my claymore if this i slighter. Anyting 30 cal options any lighter, besides thred protectors lol. |
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Posted: 6/8/2014 12:11:50 AM EST
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What's wrong with 7.5 oz? Seriously? That's 1/2 a pound on the end of your rifle. You might as well tie a brick to the muzzle! What does half a pound on the end of your rifle prevent someone from doing? Suppressors are around 18oz okay. your are right. very well then. |
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Posted: 6/8/2014 12:12:50 AM EST
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I put a Levang comp on my MK18 pistol upper. Cons:
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Posted: 6/8/2014 12:15:55 AM EST
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so what is the lightest in both 22 and 30 cal? The simply threaded device doens't look that light.
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Posted: 6/8/2014 12:19:05 AM EST
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what does this weight? less or more in 30 cal??? |
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Posted: 6/8/2014 3:59:57 AM EST
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What's wrong with 7.5 oz? Seriously? That's 1/2 a pound on the end of your rifle. You might as well tie a brick to the muzzle! What does half a pound on the end of your rifle prevent someone from doing? Suppressors are around 18oz Suppressors also provide a 30 DB sound reduction. 7.5 oz is ridiculous given that the other devices listed here provide the same function at significantly less weight. HERA is just going for "BUHT IT LOOKZ KOOL!" market segment. A 4x ACOG (TA31) weighs 14 oz with mount. Would you rather have one that weighs 14 oz or one that weighs 42 oz (3x) but looks cool? |
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Posted: 6/8/2014 5:02:09 AM EST
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http://simplethreadeddevices.com/f-std/556std_%20black.png what does this weight? less or more in 30 cal??? This is the one I have my eye on. It looks good, but can't find the weight anywhere. ETA: Amazon says the shipping weight is 3.5oz.. Not that that figure is correct most of the time. But I'd say it's probably pretty close. |
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Posted: 6/8/2014 6:18:13 AM EST
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IIRC, I think the STD is 2.3 oz.
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Posted: 6/8/2014 10:32:28 AM EST
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so the BRT is the lightest in both 22 and 30 cal then?
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Posted: 6/8/2014 11:21:48 AM EST
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I am trying to remember where I saw the picture of the Krink can (aluminum) that was slit in two (blown open) with such force it damaged the free float tube.
Now I have shot one in AK 47 pistol (7.62x39mm) and it was quite good at recoil reduction. But It had a large fire ball (visible to bystanders in daylight) that was pushed about two or three feet in front of the muzzle. |
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Posted: 6/8/2014 2:28:08 PM EST
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Link I like the looks of this and from the video's I have seen it looks to work pretty well. I did some searching and there was only one post from this site about it with no reply... |
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Posted: 6/8/2014 3:14:22 PM EST
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Posted: 6/8/2014 3:39:32 PM EST
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http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/DSC_0661-660x438.jpg Link I like the looks of this and from the video's I have seen it looks to work pretty well. I did some searching and there was only one post from this site about it with no reply... You have no idea what a "linear compensator" is, do you? |
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Posted: 6/8/2014 5:15:25 PM EST
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@fooboy
How do you know that they all function just as well as the other. Isn't it possible that one that is heavier could be better at redirecting blast than the other? I would def agree that if they both function exactly the same, then the added weight is not worth it. But if there is an added benefit in the one that ways more, one shouldn't write it off as being worse because it weighs more. I run the ferfrans CRD which is 10 oz altogether. Is that heavy, hell ya. It allows for only a 10% reduction in effectiveness of the full auto muzzle brake, yet throwing most of the sound forward. To me, the 10oz on the end is barely worth it. That is why I started this thread, because I am debating changing to something lighter, or even a flash hider. Side blast is a big concern for me as is muzzle flash. |
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Posted: 6/8/2014 6:00:16 PM EST
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so the BRT is the lightest in both 22 and 30 cal then? Not sure about the 22 version. The weight I posted was for the 30 version. I would venture to say they are about the same, though. If anything the 30 version may be a little lighter due to the larger thread. I could be wrong. I haven't found anything concrete on either of them. I may just order one of each anyway to see how well they perform. Then we'll know for sure, and can post something in the LW thread. |
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Posted: 6/8/2014 6:01:29 PM EST
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I use a levang on my 11.5. Noise and blast reduction is significant. I have no need to get something "tactical" looking
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Posted: 6/9/2014 8:06:59 AM EST
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I use a levang on my 11.5. Noise and blast reduction is significant. I have no need to get something "tactical" looking WHAT??? Dude it is not how practical, or how it works, It all about How it LOOKs.... that's Tacti-cool.
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Posted: 6/9/2014 8:11:32 AM EST
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So how many "linear" types are out there?
There are the cans: Krink Noveski 3 and 5 These 3 are good for directing blast and noise but big flash. The small diameter ports in front: Levang Kaw Valley Black River Tactical Troy Claymore Kies Blast Master Hera Arms (that German one for big$$%) What others? |
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Posted: 6/9/2014 8:48:48 AM EST
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So how many "linear" types are out there? There are the cans: Krink Noveski 3 and 5 Kak Flash Can These 3 4 are good for directing blast and noise but big flash. The small diameter ports in front: Levang Kaw Valley Black River Tactical Troy Claymore Hera Arms (that German one for big$$%) What others? Seems that Hera is so expensive b/c of ITAR, German Arms laws, and the European market has little competition - it's a very small civilian arms market compared to the US. If some of our bigger players set up shop over there they'd make a small killing. European kit is usually very good, but often not good value for money. |
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Posted: 6/9/2014 9:02:14 AM EST
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So how many "linear" types are out there? There are the cans: Krink Noveski 3 and 5 These 3 are good for directing blast and noise but big flash. The small diameter ports in front: Levang Kaw Valley Black River Tactical Troy Claymore Hera Arms (that German one for big$$%) What others? You can add the Kies Blast Master to the list... |
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