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11/17/2008 8:40:32 PM EDT
I'm in the process of planning a build right now and I need some assistance on part selections. I find this really difficult for the reason that i cant touch, feel, see etc. the parts that I will be potentially be buying online... and cant really find what I'm looking for with the search

I want to build a .223 AR15 that is as solid as possible and looks the best.  I dont want any rattles and I don't want it to feel "plasticy"

So my question is this, who makes the best uppers, lowers, handguard etc etc... What is the best way to go?

I really want a solid rifle that doesnt feel cheap... and i want to do this right on the first try


So set me straight
11/18/2008 10:29:52 AM EDT
[#1]
Need some help
11/18/2008 10:54:13 AM EDT
[#2]
Just to give yourself an idea of damn near the best go to noveske, colt and LaRue.

Look up the stealth uppers on LaRue. I know there are others, but I honestly don't

recall them right now. This should get you started. Now, if you just don't want

any "rattles" you should be fine with A LOT of the AR's. Please try to give more info. on

what you want the rifle to do {ex: bench, practical, Close quarters, SHTF}. Then we can

narrow this all down and try to help you more. Patience

Oh, and looks are kind of a preference thing.
11/18/2008 11:49:43 AM EDT
[#3]
If I could get in on this, I am in the same boat.  I have a RRA Entry Tactical with ACOG on LaRue mount, Daniel Defense free float rails, Magpul stock etc.  This is my play gun.
I want to build an AR that I will be able to put a 60 gr. V-Max right between the eyes of a hog at 300 yards.
Suggestions?
11/18/2008 12:55:08 PM EDT
[#4]
The equipment is a small part of being/becoming a good shot. With that said and you

consider yourself a good/okay shot, then look at the options above for the best. Now,

if you don't want to spend that kind of coin on a rig like that, then RRA makes good

Varmint uppers along with a couple other manufacturers. Just remember that

ammo/rifle/trigger have little to do with accuracy if the person shooting can't hit the

broad side of a barn. But look into those manufacturers and read around and see what

others have had good luck with. Which there are a lot of options for decent rigs.

Shooting at 300 yrds with a 60gr bullet. I would thing a 1X8 would be dang good or a

1X9 both in 18-24" IMO. Just gaining velocity with a longer barrel, that's all. Less bullet

drop at distance.
11/18/2008 1:26:52 PM EDT
[#5]
I have been shooting longer than I like to think about and am, in my humble opinion, an excellent shot.
I could spring for a RRA Varmint or LaRue Stealth upper for my current RRA AR.  But I really get the most satisfaction, and just love projects that I build myself even if I don't save that much money.  Also my brother in law the cheapskate will want me to build him an AR also, but he just wants one to have one.  So I will be able to look around for bargains and build him a functional, reliable & accurate (but not a tack driver) rifle.
11/18/2008 5:54:13 PM EDT
[#6]
What kinds of ranges can I see with different barrels? 16" is the standard right? ... so what kind of ranges can be seen with that?
11/18/2008 5:58:54 PM EDT
[#7]
Also, Ive heard of some uppers and lowers being casted, forged, and CNC'd who does what and which is best?
11/18/2008 6:03:31 PM EDT
[#8]
You can shoot at descent ranges with a 16". All the longer barrels do is give greater

velocity and therefore less bullet drop at greater distances. I'd say you should be able

to shoot 400 yard man size targets with practice and you could even reach out further

with a 16. Velocity in a .223/5.56 is very important. Since the bullet isn't heavy like

a .308 it has to go very fast in order to inflict greater damage than a bullet in the

same size traveling with less velocity.


Most lowers are forged and are stronger than cast. Milled is the strongest/most

expensive. But many think the lowers don't need to be that strong when shooting .223.

Most of the companies are Good to go with forged lowers.


And CNL, I'd look into del-ton and Model 1. If he's just looking for a plain 16'' that will

shoot decent and you want to make it with him, I'd go that route. I ordered a 16'' mid-

length from del-ton for my brother{devoted AK guy} and I'm just waiting for it now so

he can build it. All that's needed is a stripped lower which just happen to be hard to

come by at the moment. This was bought for a starter rig that is still very reputable.

Del-ton has good customer service and still a good product. Can't wait for the del-ton.

del-ton 16'' kits

They also offer 20'' kits. RRA and most other companies have kits, but are more

expensive
11/18/2008 6:29:45 PM EDT
[#9]
So how do light rifle kits and standard rifle kits differ?
11/18/2008 6:36:56 PM EDT
[#10]
Are you asking about the differences between the 16" kits? If so I think you just

answered your own question. But as far as I know the barrels are turned down more on

the light kits than the standard kits. There may be other slight differences but I

honestly don't know. It's still going to be a lighter style rifle either way. Another perk

with going with a shorter barrel is it weighs less. If I were you, get the middy. It is

heavier but is slightly more reliable and gives a longer sight radius and isn't as violent

while being shot as a M4 style rifle. That's if you are steered toward a 16" and no the

20".
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