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Posted: 7/11/2004 12:56:47 PM EDT
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I like my Ciener conversion system. It works great with a lot of ammo brands and sorts and its a cheap way to shoot with the rifle. The only problems I have with Swartclip ammo. It seems they used too much "hard" grease to lubricate the bullets. The bolt can´t get the whole cartridge into the chamber sometimes. But with other ammo I´ve never had any problems even after 300-400 rounds without cleaning. 
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I agree. Ceiner is great Mine works good with the usuall ammo types, Rem golden,minimags,and the like.It really shines with standard vel CCI and wolf MT. The wolf gives me 3/4" ten shot groups @ 50 yd with a good scope off the bench. Me thinks I could do better with a beter trigger . The 10 rd mags work about perfect and come apart easy for cleaning . My dpms upper (heavy barrel flattop) is slightly more accurate but real heavy I like throwing the Ceiner in whatever upper I feel like shooting (with whatever sighting system) and knowing it will function near perfect Wish I can lay my hands on a reasonable 30RD mag |
| I was fed up with searching for a 30rd mag for a "good" price , so I went on and ordered it at a friend of mine ( he´s a gundealer) from waffenschumacher.com . They want 79 Euro for it and I got it for retail price 52 Euro ( 64$) . Expensive - okay but what can you do. BTW the 30rd mag works perfect. |
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yeah Cieners are awesome. Had three go thru my hands and all were 100% reliable. No fine tunning,oiling, polishing,etc. Keep on a lookout on EE i got like new Ciener .22 kit w/ 30 round mag for $130 shipped two or so months back..... right now I'm doing torture testing on it to see how long it can go without oiling or cleaning. Went it bone dry and flawless after 500 rounds as of yet. halik |
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I agree, the dedicated upper from Kuehl Precision Firearms is the way to go. To me, it's a must-have. Cheap, fun, and easy to suppress. Dan |
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