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7/23/2008 9:14:04 AM EDT
I have 2 brand new 30 round PMAG's and one is not feeding.  I was told by a guy at the range that you need to run two or three clips threw them to get them to work smoothly.  I don't want to manually feed 90 rounds before they work correctly.  I have heard of the 20 rounders having problems but nothing on the 30's.  Anyone here of this problem?  Is there a quick fix, or do I I need to send it back for a new one?  
7/23/2008 9:18:37 AM EDT
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Your first call should have been to Magpul, not the internet...
7/23/2008 10:42:20 AM EDT
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Your first call should have been to Magpul, not the internet...


Your first question should have been did you call Magpul.  Then my answer would have been yes, they told me this wasn't a common problem, but I don't tend to believe a seller when it comes to problems, I believe people who have tried them, so the internet would be appropriate IMO.  If this is a common problem, why would I want another magazine from them?  They offered a replacement, but the question is do I want one.  Please offer helpful responses, not ignorant assumptions.    
7/23/2008 10:45:32 AM EDT
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Your first call should have been to Magpul, not the internet...


Your first question should have been did you call Magpul.  Then my answer would have been yes, they told me this wasn't a common problem, but I don't tend to believe a seller when it comes to problems, I believe people who have tried them, so the internet would be appropriate IMO.  If this is a common problem, why would I want another magazine from them?  They offered a replacement, but the question is do I want one.  Please offer helpful responses, not ignorant assumptions.    


So they offer you a brand new replacement magazine, and you still complain?

Some people will never be satisfied...
7/23/2008 10:51:22 AM EDT
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i have not had any problems with any of my magpuls 30rd or 20rd.  magpul is always more than willing to help.  if they offer to help you out and u still whine about it, then thats your problem not theirs
7/23/2008 10:57:07 AM EDT
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Your first call should have been to Magpul, not the internet...


Your first question should have been did you call Magpul.  Then my answer would have been yes, they told me this wasn't a common problem, but I don't tend to believe a seller when it comes to problems, I believe people who have tried them, so the internet would be appropriate IMO.  If this is a common problem, why would I want another magazine from them?  They offered a replacement, but the question is do I want one.  Please offer helpful responses, not ignorant assumptions.    


rule 1 of tech forums is to contact the MANUFACTURER first... Magpul is not a "re-seller" looking to push their products on you...

Magpul is very active on this board and several others, they are on top of every issue encountered with their product which is why they continue to put out high quality items...

the only being ignorant here is you, for questioning the integrity of Magpul... they were honest, it is NOT a common problem, and they offered you replacements...

if anything, i'd be more leary of the opinion of the random guy at the range than the opinion of one of the leading manufacturers in this industry...
7/23/2008 11:41:39 AM EDT
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I just want to know if I get a new one do I have worry about this problem again.  This is my first purchase of PMAGS and I have had a 50% fail rate so asking people who own them if this is a regular problem does not classify as a complaint.  If this is an issolated incident then I have no problem using PMAGS, but if I have to worry about the new mag failing why bother.  This post was in no way bashing Magpul, it was only to learn if consumers are having problems with these mags(maybe a bad batch).  Magpul is probably a reputable company but this is my first dealing with them, so I have no idea if they are trustworthy or not.  I have delt with reputable companys who blow smoke up your ass when it comes to problems with their product so to get a verification from consumers that the product is a go or no go is helpful to me.  I guess the answer I was looking for was that this is a issolated incident and I don't have to worry, or a suggestion of an easy way to fix the problem without having to send it back.  
7/23/2008 11:46:55 AM EDT
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Had you even bothered to use the search function here, you would have found that P Mags are very reliable. You would have also found out that Magpul's CS is second to none if there is a problem-they bend over backwards to make it right and then some.  
7/23/2008 11:56:54 AM EDT
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I've never encountered a single problem with any of my PMags.
7/23/2008 11:58:58 AM EDT
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Sorry for the ignorant question, but...

How exactly DO you use the search function? I haven't been able to figure it out.

Thanks!
7/23/2008 12:08:44 PM EDT
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Sorry for the ignorant question, but...

How exactly DO you use the search function? I haven't been able to figure it out.

Thanks!


Go here

Type in what you want to search for, what forum (you can go to the top of the list and select "all communities"), how far back to search, and then hit "search".
7/23/2008 12:25:56 PM EDT
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Had you even bothered to use the search function here, you would have found that P Mags are very reliable. You would have also found out that Magpul's CS is second to none if there is a problem-they bend over backwards to make it right and then some.  


The original post was really to find an easy fix to the problem, or should I send it back.  It escalated when jackass assumed that I didn't call Magpul, I suggested I didn't trust Magpul's answer about there not being problems, and wanted to get a consenses from consumers.  I think if you read back, I never bashed Magpul, I only stated my own trust issues with dealing with other companies and their BS.  Obviously this is not the case with Magpul.   I see now Magpul seems to have a cult like following so there products must be good, so I will send it back and get a new one, and hope to have no more issues.      
7/23/2008 12:41:30 PM EDT
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Had you even bothered to use the search function here, you would have found that P Mags are very reliable. You would have also found out that Magpul's CS is second to none if there is a problem-they bend over backwards to make it right and then some.  


The original post was really to find an easy fix to the problem, or should I send it back.  It escalated when jackass assumed that I didn't call Magpul, I suggested I didn't trust Magpul's answer about there not being problems, and wanted to get a consenses from consumers.  I think if you read back, I never bashed Magpul, I only stated my own trust issues with dealing with other companies and their BS.  Obviously this is not the case with Magpul.   I see now Magpul seems to have a cult like following so there products must be good, so I will send it back and get a new one, and hope to have no more issues.      


That is what you should have done in the first place... Magpul is a great company to deal with , they will take of you..

Why would you not trust Magpul's answer ? Magpul has no reason to lie or lead you on ..
7/23/2008 12:43:27 PM EDT
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Had you even bothered to use the search function here, you would have found that P Mags are very reliable. You would have also found out that Magpul's CS is second to none if there is a problem-they bend over backwards to make it right and then some.  


The original post was really to find an easy fix to the problem, or should I send it back.  It escalated when jackass assumed that I didn't call Magpul, I suggested I didn't trust Magpul's answer about there not being problems, and wanted to get a consenses from consumers.  I think if you read back, I never bashed Magpul, I only stated my own trust issues with dealing with other companies and their BS.  Obviously this is not the case with Magpul.   I see now Magpul seems to have a cult like following so there products must be good, so I will send it back and get a new one, and hope to have no more issues.      


Hey, thanks for the personal attack. How old are you? 12?
7/23/2008 1:13:55 PM EDT
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rule 1 of tech forums is to contact the MANUFACTURER first... Magpul is not a "re-seller" looking to push their products on you...



There's no such rule. If there was there would never be a thread about Olympic arms

All of you please behave, thanks.

(yeesh)
7/23/2008 1:22:38 PM EDT
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Had you even bothered to use the search function here, you would have found that P Mags are very reliable. You would have also found out that Magpul's CS is second to none if there is a problem-they bend over backwards to make it right and then some.  


The original post was really to find an easy fix to the problem, or should I send it back.  It escalated when jackass assumed that I didn't call Magpul, I suggested I didn't trust Magpul's answer about there not being problems, and wanted to get a consenses from consumers.  I think if you read back, I never bashed Magpul, I only stated my own trust issues with dealing with other companies and their BS.  Obviously this is not the case with Magpul.   I see now Magpul seems to have a cult like following so there products must be good, so I will send it back and get a new one, and hope to have no more issues.      


Hey, thanks for the personal attack. How old are you? 12?


Sorry, I'm just annoyed.  I thought I'd get some helpful answers here.  
7/23/2008 1:35:44 PM EDT
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Had you even bothered to use the search function here, you would have found that P Mags are very reliable. You would have also found out that Magpul's CS is second to none if there is a problem-they bend over backwards to make it right and then some.  


The original post was really to find an easy fix to the problem, or should I send it back.  It escalated when jackass assumed that I didn't call Magpul, I suggested I didn't trust Magpul's answer about there not being problems, and wanted to get a consenses from consumers.  I think if you read back, I never bashed Magpul, I only stated my own trust issues with dealing with other companies and their BS.  Obviously this is not the case with Magpul.   I see now Magpul seems to have a cult like following so there products must be good, so I will send it back and get a new one, and hope to have no more issues.      


That is what you should have done in the first place... Magpul is a great company to deal with , they will take of you..

Why would you not trust Magpul's answer ? Magpul has no reason to lie or lead you on ..


Sorry this is like my 2nd post on this site, I thought the point was you posted questions, and there were people who would gladly answer them for you.  I will use the search function next time to do better research.  
7/23/2008 1:38:19 PM EDT
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Had you even bothered to use the search function here, you would have found that P Mags are very reliable. You would have also found out that Magpul's CS is second to none if there is a problem-they bend over backwards to make it right and then some.  


The original post was really to find an easy fix to the problem, or should I send it back.  It escalated when jackass assumed that I didn't call Magpul, I suggested I didn't trust Magpul's answer about there not being problems, and wanted to get a consenses from consumers.  I think if you read back, I never bashed Magpul, I only stated my own trust issues with dealing with other companies and their BS.  Obviously this is not the case with Magpul.   I see now Magpul seems to have a cult like following so there products must be good, so I will send it back and get a new one, and hope to have no more issues.      


That is what you should have done in the first place... Magpul is a great company to deal with , they will take of you..

Why would you not trust Magpul's answer ? Magpul has no reason to lie or lead you on ..


Sorry this is like my 2nd post on this site, I thought the point was you posted questions, and there were people who would gladly answer them for you.  I will use the search function next time to do better research.  


Here is a 95 page thread about PMags. Found via search in .01 seconds.

Link
7/23/2008 5:27:58 PM EDT
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This is not normal from the mags I have bought. You just got unlucky. Magpul will take care of you don't worry. By the way welcome to the site.
7/23/2008 6:09:37 PM EDT
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87, lightenup. his question was more than fine

not everyone is search savy and frankly the search for non members sucks.

forums like this are for people to ask questions and look for answers. calling the manfacturer first in every case isn't always easy or possible.

7/23/2008 6:46:43 PM EDT
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his question was more than fine

not everyone is search savy and frankly the search for non members sucks.

forums like this are for people to ask questions and look for answers. calling the manfacturer first in every case isn't always easy or possible.


I just like that response.

I havent had any problems with the pmags that I own. Everyone gets a bad one sometimes. If they offered to replace it, well thats great. I dont blame the op for not trusting them. Did you buy it locally or off the internet? If locally I would have skipped the manufacturer and went to the store to return/exchange.
7/23/2008 7:23:00 PM EDT
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Your first call should have been to Magpul, not the internet...


Wow...way to welcome someone to the forums...Im glad no one ever respnded to me that way when i was new...if so i would proboly not still be here...I know when i was new to firearms i asked WAY WAY WAY more stuped questions then that (if you can even call it stuped)

anyway...magpul...i have never had a problem with any magpul mag i have shot, i would say its just random problem, let them swap it out for you and you should be good to go...

as you noticed, yes, magpul has a HUGE following...almost cult like...and yes, they earned that buy being one of the best in the buisness
7/24/2008 4:19:09 AM EDT
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Why do people here feel the need to sycophantically protect certain industry members all the time? I'm sure they are capable of watching out for themselves.

To the OP, people here largely find the PMAG 30s to be very reliable if not the most reliable mags. You may have gotten a bad batch that popped up about a year (?) ago. Send them in and get them replaced I say.
7/24/2008 4:24:37 AM EDT
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Why do people here feel the need to sycophantically protect certain industry members all the time? I'm sure they are capable of watching out for themselves.

To the OP, people here largely find the PMAG 30s to be very reliable if not the most reliable mags. You may have gotten a bad batch that popped up about a year (?) ago. Send them in and get them replaced I say.


i don't know but those comments were out of line.
7/24/2008 4:53:15 AM EDT
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i don't know but those comments were out of line.


Seemed to be merely an accurate assessment to me, if you want me to edit it, let me know.
7/24/2008 4:57:34 AM EDT
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i don't know but those comments were out of line.


Seemed to be merely an accurate assessment to me, if you want me to edit it, let me know.


not your the orginal answers

yours are fine.
7/24/2008 5:09:08 AM EDT
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i don't know but those comments were out of line.


Seemed to be merely an accurate assessment to me, if you want me to edit it, let me know.


not your the orginal answers

yours are fine.


Ah OK, gotcha.

OP, here is here you can check if your mags are among the recalled ones:

www.magpul.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=271

You might also want to open them up and check to see if there is any flash on the feed lips or follower. Always a possibility with any injection molded part, and can easily be fixed by trimming it with a razor blade.
7/24/2008 5:34:17 AM EDT
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that should have been the first answer he got.
7/24/2008 5:54:55 AM EDT
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i don't know but those comments were out of line.


Seemed to be merely an accurate assessment to me, if you want me to edit it, let me know.


not your the orginal answers

yours are fine.


Ah OK, gotcha.

OP, here is here you can check if your mags are among the recalled ones:

www.magpul.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=271

You might also want to open them up and check to see if there is any flash on the feed lips or follower. Always a possibility with any injection molded part, and can easily be fixed by trimming it with a razor blade.


WOW, nice info, i did not know that ever happoned...
7/24/2008 7:26:42 AM EDT
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87, lightenup. his question was more than fine

not everyone is search savy and frankly the search for non members sucks.

forums like this are for people to ask questions and look for answers. calling the manfacturer first in every case isn't always easy or possible.



Funny, most times when I bring up a problem with a site sponsor (after contacting them) I get jumped by everyone from site staff to regular members...and I leave the name of the sponsor out of it.
7/24/2008 8:06:07 AM EDT
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87, lightenup. his question was more than fine

not everyone is search savy and frankly the search for non members sucks.

forums like this are for people to ask questions and look for answers. calling the manfacturer first in every case isn't always easy or possible.



Funny, most times when I bring up a problem with a site sponsor (after contacting them) I get jumped by everyone from site staff to regular members...and I leave the name of the sponsor out of it.


logitimate critcism should never be an concern. staff/mods should not jump anyone for that. General unsubstatiated bitching should be.

please notify us/me when it happens.
7/24/2008 8:45:05 AM EDT
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logitimate critcism should never be an concern. staff/mods should not jump anyone for that. General unsubstatiated bitching should be.

please notify us/me when it happens.


K. Sorry for my behavior.
7/24/2008 8:58:22 AM EDT
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Well how about we don't belittle anyone any more.  Again some folks are more product savvy than others, that doesn't make anyone better or worse than anyone else.  My cousin and myself have over 30 PMAGS between the two of us and none have been anything less than great.........hth     By the way,  this forum should be a place to call upon knowledge and trust it.... because we are all on the same team and enjoying the same hobby.  One reason I would ask a question to y'all  if I needed some advice.
7/24/2008 9:19:34 AM EDT
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rule 1 of tech forums is to contact the MANUFACTURER first... Magpul is not a "re-seller" looking to push their products on you...



Is this forum considered a technical forum??  
7/24/2008 9:24:27 AM EDT
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Well how about we don't belittle anyone any more.  Again some folks are more product savvy than others, that doesn't make anyone better or worse than anyone else.  My cousin and myself have over 30 PMAGS between the two of us and none have been anything less than great.........hth     By the way,  this forum should be a place to call upon knowledge and trust it.... because we are all on the same team and enjoying the same hobby.  One reason I would ask a question to y'all  if I needed some advice.


shutup noob!  
7/24/2008 9:25:01 AM EDT
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rule 1 of tech forums is to contact the MANUFACTURER first... Magpul is not a "re-seller" looking to push their products on you...



Is this forum considered a technical forum??  


yes but there is no such rule.
7/24/2008 10:43:55 AM EDT
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It is not the rule or lack of such a rule  that makes me wonder, it is the frequency of posts such as "what is your favorite magazine color" or the one  a couple of days ago about the guy that likes to fondle his magazines every day.  How are these issues technical??
7/24/2008 11:02:48 AM EDT
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my experience with my 20 and 30 rounders has been top-notch, they are by far the best mags made IMHO. Magpul's customer service is also extremely helpful and will do anything to help their customers- sounds like you just a bad mag that maybe doesnt agree with your rifle (kinda like that Pizza the other night didnt agree with my inards to well) take the replacement and give it a shot- I still have never had a rifle have any issues with any Pmags I have used- maybe you just got unlucky? good luck with the replacement!
7/24/2008 11:30:41 AM EDT
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Thanks to everyone that contributed with useful replies.  I checked my mag and it is dated from 2007 so it sounds like one of the recalls.  I'm sure I will be happy with the new mag.  I really didn't want to draw negative press for PMAGS from my post.  Some of the post got me mad so it got a little off track, but I was just hoping to get some kind of trick to fix it, like add some oil or something.  I am glad Magpul was willing to exchange my mag at no extra charge but where I live in KY it is a bit of a drive to drop off a package to UPS to send the bad mag back so it would save me the gas to fix it myself.  Thanks again.  
7/24/2008 11:53:30 AM EDT
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It is not the rule or lack of such a rule  that makes me wonder, it is the frequency of posts such as "what is your favorite magazine color" or the one  a couple of days ago about the guy that likes to fondle his magazines every day.  How are these issues technical??


they aren't and really should be moved/locked.

sorry we can't catch every thread.
7/26/2008 12:44:30 AM EDT
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Thanks to everyone that contributed with useful replies.  I checked my mag and it is dated from 2007 so it sounds like one of the recalls.  I'm sure I will be happy with the new mag.  I really didn't want to draw negative press for PMAGS from my post.  Some of the post got me mad so it got a little off track, but I was just hoping to get some kind of trick to fix it, like add some oil or something.  I am glad Magpul was willing to exchange my mag at no extra charge but where I live in KY it is a bit of a drive to drop off a package to UPS to send the bad mag back so it would save me the gas to fix it myself.  Thanks again.  


just pack it up and hand it to your postman when he drops off your mail, no driving needed.
7/26/2008 12:30:03 PM EDT
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Thanks to everyone that contributed with useful replies.  I checked my mag and it is dated from 2007 so it sounds like one of the recalls.  I'm sure I will be happy with the new mag.  I really didn't want to draw negative press for PMAGS from my post.  Some of the post got me mad so it got a little off track, but I was just hoping to get some kind of trick to fix it, like add some oil or something.  I am glad Magpul was willing to exchange my mag at no extra charge but where I live in KY it is a bit of a drive to drop off a package to UPS to send the bad mag back so it would save me the gas to fix it myself.  Thanks again.  


just pack it up and hand it to your postman when he drops off your mail, no driving needed.


Sure if I want to pay for shipping, Magpul is paying to have it shipped UPS, not the post office.
7/26/2008 4:32:15 PM EDT
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Why do people here feel the need to sycophantically protect certain industry members all the time?


No shit.  They're called Gucci Gear Commandos.  Arfcom members have a real bad reputation for this and bandwagon jumping.
7/26/2008 4:59:01 PM EDT
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I have 2 brand new 30 round PMAG's and one is not feeding.  I was told by a guy at the range that you need to run two or three clips threw them to get them to work smoothly.  I don't want to manually feed 90 rounds before they work correctly.  I have heard of the 20 rounders having problems but nothing on the 30's.  Anyone here of this problem?  Is there a quick fix, or do I I need to send it back for a new one?  


Have there been any problem with the 20 when loaded with ammo and inserted into a rifle? All I have heard of is finger jammer worries
7/27/2008 6:23:28 AM EDT
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I have 2 brand new 30 round PMAG's and one is not feeding.  I was told by a guy at the range that you need to run two or three clips threw them to get them to work smoothly.  I don't want to manually feed 90 rounds before they work correctly.  I have heard of the 20 rounders having problems but nothing on the 30's.  Anyone here of this problem?  Is there a quick fix, or do I I need to send it back for a new one?  



Like anything from a production line it is possiable you got a mag that has something wrrong with it. We have a system to weed these ones out by putting the mags through a series of guages during assembly to confirm propper dimentions.

Anyone who does suspect issues such as this can exchange the mag with use at no charge.

Again the production line weeds out the majority of problems before the consumer ever sees them.
7/27/2008 8:02:52 AM EDT
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Why do people here feel the need to sycophantically protect certain industry members all the time?


No shit.  They're called Gucci Gear Commandos.  Arfcom members have a real bad reputation for this and bandwagon jumping.


It's not a matter of protecting any manufacturer. Had I been aware that the OP had actually contacted Magpul, and they had offered a replacement, I wouldn't have jumped on him. I think that is a very pertinent piece of data to include in such a post and find it odd that anyone would leave it out... It could have been Tapco for all I care.
7/27/2008 4:34:29 PM EDT
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Why do people here feel the need to sycophantically protect certain industry members all the time?


No shit.  They're called Gucci Gear Commandos.  Arfcom members have a real bad reputation for this and bandwagon jumping.


It's not a matter of protecting any manufacturer. Had I been aware that the OP had actually contacted Magpul, and they had offered a replacement, I wouldn't have jumped on him. I think that is a very pertinent piece of data to include in such a post and find it odd that anyone would leave it out... It could have been Tapco for all I care.


honestly it shouldn't matter if he did or not.

many times i get information 3rd hand that the manufacturer either isn't aware of or doesn't want to tell me.

if you don't want to answer the question, then don't. someone else will.
7/27/2008 6:11:56 PM EDT
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my 30rds Pmags have worked flawlessly with absolute no failures.  Please note that they've been stepped on, collected dirt, grass, a little mud, shot during rain and not a single failure with over 3000 rounds.

I'm very happy with them, and started replacing my colts with PMAG's.  I currently own 8 and should be back in the 20's soon.

Good luck.

BTW:  Great Company.
7/28/2008 9:34:35 PM EDT
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My P mags have been 100% too. However, My D@H Mags with MP Followers have worked equally well.

Aluminum mags with MagPul Followers work just as well and cost less.

While I like P Mags. I can take them or leave them.
7/29/2008 4:44:43 AM EDT
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Why do people here feel the need to sycophantically protect certain industry members all the time?


They're called Gucci Gear Commandos.


 What's your favorate magazine color?
7/29/2008 10:31:04 AM EDT
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Had you even bothered to use the search function here, you would have found that P Mags are very reliable. You would have also found out that Magpul's CS is second to none if there is a problem-they bend over backwards to make it right and then some.  


What he said, just call them.
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