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2/16/2004 9:40:18 AM EDT
Any recommandations on this type of scope?  I am looking for a simple scope to mount on my A2 and was wondering if these were any good.  I know Colt made (makes?) them, as well as Leapers.  Any recommandations on where to get one?

Thanks,
Chris
2/16/2004 1:48:46 PM EDT
[#1]
Stay well away from the Leapers, BSA and any other made-in-China $30 scopes you might find. If you send $600-$1000 (or more) on a rifle then you had better spend a bit of money to get a scope that's going to shoot to the abilities of the weapon and possibly the riflemen behind it.

I've heard that the Colt's 4x is good. You might just suck it up and hold out for a Trijicon ACOG which start $600 or so [shock].

If you're just looking for a plinking scope I'd  rather see you mount a weaver rail on a B-square carry handle mount ($50) and a hang a $100 Simmons or Tasco scope up there then to go with the bottom of the barrel scope.
2/16/2004 3:41:30 PM EDT
[#2]
I have a colt 3x scope and I'm very impressed with it.
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2/16/2004 7:01:56 PM EDT
[#3]
Alright, no PRC junk.  (On my AR anyway)  
I am really looking for a secure scope/scope mount combo.  I am looking to use it hunting and in limited competition use.  I shoot 4 gun 600yd matches and my previous setup kept coming loose.  (A massive 8x24x50 on a 4.5 inch weaver mount)  I really dont need the magnification, and saw the Colt scope was what I was looking for.  I know the ACOG is the top of the line, but like you said, its $600.  And me being a college student doesn't help much.  

Nice setup, where did you get the scope from?

Thanks,
Chris
2/16/2004 7:25:54 PM EDT
[#4]
www.prebanarms.com
2/16/2004 7:40:24 PM EDT
[#5]
Thanks.

Any other suggestions for a carry handle mounted scope?

2/17/2004 11:29:07 AM EDT
[#6]
Try one of these. Trijicon Acogs are waaaaayyyyyyyy to much for my blood.

http://www.cmoscopes.com/marksman.htm
2/17/2004 5:49:20 PM EDT
[#7]
How good is it?
Its about the same price new as a used Colt.  

Is it worth the extra $$$ to go with an illuminated reticle?  

thanks,
Chris
2/18/2004 7:35:58 AM EDT
[#8]
Actually I have been trying to get some feedback on these scopes from anyone here and have had only two replies, each said they were very impressed with the above mentiond scope.

Kind of surprised not more have talked about these scopes, guess everyone here has $800+ to spend on Compact Trijicons.
2/18/2004 1:00:34 PM EDT
[#9]
I alot of people dismiss them because they're not an Acog. The bullet drop is right on.
2/18/2004 1:18:37 PM EDT
[#10]
What round is the drop for?  XM193, SS109?  Would it work for 77 gr bullets?

I may have shell out the $$$ for a true Colt if it is that good and works for the heavier bullets.

Thanks,
Chris
2/18/2004 1:40:21 PM EDT
[#11]
55grn fmj
2/23/2004 11:59:35 AM EDT
[#12]
Colt, CMO, and C-More 4x20 scopes all seem to be made by Hakko of Japan.
2/23/2004 1:14:32 PM EDT
[#13]
Any suggestions on where I can find any of those scopes besides the EE or ebay?
2/24/2004 8:31:10 AM EDT
[#14]
cmoscopes.com

I sold my old 3x Colt carry handle scope. Bought the Marksman Elite IR for like $350 delivered. The CMO has illuminated reticle and has the same drop compensator as the Colt did. The optics seem way better then the Colt. I look at the CMO as a new generation of the Colt product with better quality. It seems to share alot of the same features and design, so it wouldn't surprise me if the same people made them. I liked the CMO so much I ordered a second one.

I wanted one for over a year and there were none to be found. I would suggest you order one soon if you want one. I think it was worth the wait.
2/24/2004 5:24:56 PM EDT
[#15]
Ok.  
Now I just need to sell my old scope.
What power of magnification does the CMO marksman have?  
Thanks,
Chris
2/25/2004 7:44:46 AM EDT
[#16]
The CMO Marksman is 4x.

My 3x sold pretty fast. Try listing in the Equipment Exchange.
2/25/2004 9:13:34 AM EDT
[#17]
Ok, thanks.
There is a show coming up soon, I'll probably try to sell it there first.  
How big is the reticle on the marksman? (in MOA)

Thanks,
Chris
2/25/2004 11:24:27 AM EDT
[#18]
Sorry, not sure how many MOA it is. The picture on the CMO web site showing the duplex reticle is the same as I received. It appears to be the same width as the reticle on the Colt scope.
2/25/2004 8:21:27 PM EDT
[#19]
The Hakko Blue ring 4X21 is worth taking a look at. I used the Colt 4X20 with good results but replace it recently with the Hakko after using both side by side. It is slightly longer and heavier but the illuminated reticle makes up for this.

http://www.hakko-japan.co.jp/optical/english/mp.htm
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