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Posted: 1/15/2016 1:22:33 PM EDT
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OK, so I am doing my homework on the 601 but I cannot seem to find anything that tells me if the "Armalite" name and logo were dropped from the 601 lower on the later builds. Mine will have the dimpled parts as well as green furniture. Should it be there? Did the 602 lower look the same sans the Armalite name and logo? Can anyone help out there in RetroLand? Also, where's a good place to pick up a couple lock washers? GB has 10, I dont need that many. Here's some parts still needed: Repro Bolt release button Repro Chrome BCG Green Hand Guards Repro/New Grey Buffer tube (or were they black) Thanks everyone -Mark |
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The Edgewater buffer tubes I've seen are black with no wrench flats, and instead have two holes cross drilled directly across from one another.
Repro BCG: http://www.fulton-armory.com/bolt-carrier-chrome-m16-no-forward-assist-notches-1-1-1.aspx (This still has a parked bolt though.....original 601s also carried chrome BCGs....so you can maybe buy it piecemeal and get what you want. Handguards, you'll need to either paint them yourselves or use original handguards (which would be cost prohibitive if you're going to go mostly repro). v/r, Jon |
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I have original green pistol grip and butt stock, both in very nice condition. Will probably try and have a go at the Hand Guards, I used to be a professional model builder. I'm looking forward to seeing if I still have the touch? I'll keep looking but I did see that Fulton was close to what I wanted, Thanks. |
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601 buffer tubes come in several flavors. I have owned many.
Near black dark gray XM gray deep dark bronze-ish. In fact Victor bought that one from me just so he would have the color reference. Why do you want a repro chrome BCG? Real 601/602 carriers can be had at very reasonable prices. Bolts are not too bad. It's really the fat head fire pin and milled chrome retainer pin that makes the prices go thru the roof. As for buffer tube (repro),, huhh?? Just take a later gray tube, if you feel the need, drill the holes up front and be done,,, unless you're "anal meticulous", the tube never gets seen anyway. I think boywonder is currently selling gray tubes and once in a while another member does too,, on GB. IIRC starting price is like $35.00 |
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Why do you want a repro chrome BCG? Real 601/602 carriers can be had at very reasonable prices. Bolts are not too bad. It's really the fat head fire pin and milled chrome retainer pin that makes the prices go thru the roof.
This! If stuck on reproduction? Young Mfg used to sell a high quality SP-1 replacement slickside BCG chrome or phosphate that one could request without the logo for $165. WWW is showing out of stock but might be worth a call. Grey Colt buffer on GB for $35 from member here. Would have wrench flats and two hole delete but seller is as good as they get. Also 601ish clone complete upper on GB. Auction price is lower right now than one could build it for using some reproduction parts. Search retro or Colt. |
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Quoted: 601 buffer tubes come in several flavors. I have owned many. Near black dark gray XM gray deep dark bronze-ish. In fact Victor bought that one from me just so he would have the color reference. Why do you want a repro chrome BCG? Real 601/602 carriers can be had at very reasonable prices. Bolts are not too bad. It's really the fat head fire pin and milled chrome retainer pin that makes the prices go thru the roof. As for buffer tube (repro),, huhh?? Just take a later gray tube, if you feel the need, drill the holes up front and be done,,, unless you're "anal meticulous", the tube never gets seen anyway. I think boywonder is currently selling gray tubes and once in a while another member does too,, on GB. IIRC starting price is like $35.00 |
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Not going all out original on this....for now. I have a re-profiled upper that JT did. Green pistol grip & Butt stock. I'll have Braceman do all the dimpled stuff, sight wheel and door. Also I'll have him re-profile an FSB I have. Standard M16 LPK, Lower is here from NDS. Have a Duckbill FH. Will use a regular gas tube. Just contacted Boywonder about BCG, & buffertube w/ no drain hole screw. Still need a barrel. Hoping to find a nice early original, 1/12 twist, VP is fine with me. |
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There is (was?) an arsenal refinished original 601 upper (stripped) on the EE yesterday. Young Mfg for the BCG if you're stuck on repro, but as others have mentioned, originals can be had for about the same price. liv4nov, what's a knurled 601 washer? Early crush washers had a fine knurled pattern, in my experience. My VP12 barrel came with one, and I have one on my VP (14) barrel too. |
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Quoted: Early crush washers had a fine knurled pattern, in my experience. My VP12 barrel came with one, and I have one on my VP (14) barrel too. Quoted: Quoted: There is (was?) an arsenal refinished original 601 upper (stripped) on the EE yesterday. Young Mfg for the BCG if you're stuck on repro, but as others have mentioned, originals can be had for about the same price. liv4nov, what's a knurled 601 washer? Early crush washers had a fine knurled pattern, in my experience. My VP12 barrel came with one, and I have one on my VP (14) barrel too.  Glad it is in a good IH home though. O wait, thats right it was hanging out with a John Deere last time I saw it  I have seen the knurled washers as late as M VP. (barrels that appeared unaltered, demils etc) You can see them on a lot of later ones too as a replacement part. I just think they look cooler. |
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I just think they look cooler.
This. Might be looking from the wrong end. Joke! My eyes are quickly becoming too bad to even pick the knurling up from over a couple of feet. Buying the 10 pack if Bill Rocca or such still has some, would probably be an investment you wouldn't regret. As you see most like them over all the others and could be good trade fodder. Only one I have came on a surplus replacement 604 upper assembly. |
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Early crush washers had a fine knurled pattern, in my experience. My VP12 barrel came with one, and I have one on my VP (14) barrel too. Quoted:
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There is (was?) an arsenal refinished original 601 upper (stripped) on the EE yesterday. Young Mfg for the BCG if you're stuck on repro, but as others have mentioned, originals can be had for about the same price. liv4nov, what's a knurled 601 washer? Early crush washers had a fine knurled pattern, in my experience. My VP12 barrel came with one, and I have one on my VP (14) barrel too. Ah! Learn something new every day. Apparently my 601 is a little less correct than I realized. |
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I thought 601 sn's stopped before that?
Hmm eta: The modern bolt catch indicates to me this was made after the 601 run actually ended. They had a serial number gap between 14,485 and 14,499; I wonder if it was some kind of in house R&D or T&E gun. double edit: That was the range 607's were in.....I still dont have an answer as to what that ^ lower is. 
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http://i.imgur.com/pII7PdH.jpg I'm not sure if this is a military or civilian gun. Anyone else seen one without the Armalite roll mark? http://www.smallarmsreview.com/display.article.cfm?idarticles=2774 Yes, we've seen this before https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=123&t=512758 |
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Quoted: Ah! Learn something new every day. Apparently my 601 is a little less correct than I realized. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: There is (was?) an arsenal refinished original 601 upper (stripped) on the EE yesterday. Young Mfg for the BCG if you're stuck on repro, but as others have mentioned, originals can be had for about the same price. liv4nov, what's a knurled 601 washer? Early crush washers had a fine knurled pattern, in my experience. My VP12 barrel came with one, and I have one on my VP (14) barrel too. Ah! Learn something new every day. Apparently my 601 is a little less correct than I realized. |
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601 buffer tubes come in several flavors. I have owned many. Near black dark gray XM gray deep dark bronze-ish. In fact Victor bought that one from me just so he would have the color reference. Why do you want a repro chrome BCG? Real 601/602 carriers can be had at very reasonable prices. Bolts are not too bad. It's really the fat head fire pin and milled chrome retainer pin that makes the prices go thru the roof. As for buffer tube (repro),, huhh?? Just take a later gray tube, if you feel the need, drill the holes up front and be done,,, unless you're "anal meticulous", the tube never gets seen anyway. I think boywonder is currently selling gray tubes and once in a while another member does too,, on GB. IIRC starting price is like $35.00 Everything stated above is correct.... I have 601 buffertubesc in gray, goldish, gray/black, etc. The carrier and bolt will run you sub $200, it's the small bits that will add up, but m1sniper covered it. Good luck! |
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601 buffer tubes come in several flavors. I have owned many. Near black dark gray XM gray deep dark bronze-ish. In fact Victor bought that one from me just so he would have the color reference. Why do you want a repro chrome BCG? Real 601/602 carriers can be had at very reasonable prices. Bolts are not too bad. It's really the fat head fire pin and milled chrome retainer pin that makes the prices go thru the roof. As for buffer tube (repro),, huhh?? Just take a later gray tube, if you feel the need, drill the holes up front and be done,,, unless you're "anal meticulous", the tube never gets seen anyway. I think boywonder is currently selling gray tubes and once in a while another member does too,, on GB. IIRC starting price is like $35.00 This. ^^ My favorite 01 extension color (almost a maroon tint to it)... 
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| I own an original Colt Armalite Model 1. My serial number is in the 13,000 range, so it is within the last 1,000 manufactured. My Receiver is marked with the Colt and Armalite logo, along with the AR15 name and stampedhttp://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg483/machinegunkid6/rec1_zps23b1069d.jpg</a>" /> "model 01", not "601". So, I hope that helps. To my knowledge, per the 601's , nothing was dropped regarding the names on late production rifles. |
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