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Posted: 4/24/2004 8:23:12 AM EDT
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I can't imagine that this topic hasn't been covered numerous times but I can't find a thread. Of the three reticles offered on the TA31 (donut, triangle, chevron) which do you prefer and why? I just got my first AR and, God help me, I've now got the ACOG bug!!!! |
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It appears the majority of AOCG users like the donut, while the TA01 series Christmas tree reticle ranks among the least favorite. This is just a generalization of course. The donut reticle is fast to pick up, some say it's not as accurate than either the triangle or chevron but many of us don't find that to be the case. I deem there's no free lunch, something has to give for another to be gained, I'd say it's easier to use the tip of the chevron and triangle to make precise shots but at the same time the donut is fast in acquisition. Head over to the pinned thread on different views through various ACOGs, even Trijicon's own website doesn't offer (at all) any real world views through them. Speaking for myself, months ago I found that my pic was stolen and used in an ebay auction lol. |
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I have owned ACOGs with all three reticles. The TA31A and TA31F are still with me and the TA11 was sold to purchase a Leupold M1 LR 3.5-10X40. Personally, I can acquire targets just as fast with either the chevron or trianlge as I could with the donut. When it come to precision, the donut fell very short for me. It puzzle me that people say the donut is easier for target acquisition as opposed to the chevron, but in all actuality the chevron is the larger reticle ( 5.53 moa versus 4 moa for the donut). But your mileage my vary. |
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Donut. Especially I got the Donut because my rifle has nothing to do with match style shooting, and I won't be having any teammates to back me up. Donut works really work with BAC and I thought I could use it a bit in CQB style shooting too. IMHO Donut is the most general purpose reticule. That said, I would like a Chevron too 
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I looked through the ACOG view thread before the sight move but wasnt "shopping" at the time so it was very cursory. Now, over 90% of the pics on that thread aren't showing up. 
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I like the donut better but the chevron runs a close second. The donut is very fast close in and at a distance you can still be plenty accurate with it. I play at shooting one inch squares at 100yds with the donut, so you can definitely be precise with it once you understand the reticle. I also like the multiple aiming points provided by the donut (top of donut, top of donut hole, bottom of donut hole, bottom of donut).
The chevron is a wider reticle; but it doesn't seem to illuminate (and therefore contrast) as well as the donut. In my experience, the chevron seems just a tiny bit more prone to fading in borderline lighting conditions. In the end though, it is really, really hard to go wrong with any of the ACOG reticles. Its like being concerned about the upholstery in your Ferrari. At the end of the day it is 90% personal preference. |
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My first ACOG was the TA31 with the donut reticle. While really nice I just found it difficult to aim as precisely as I would like. Keep in mind that the ACOG, to me, is a full speed ahead battle sight and hitting people sized bad-guys would be a cinch with it, regardless of reticle choice. I have since traded away my donut reticle TA31 and acquired the TA31A with the triangle reticle which I personally prefer to the donut. |
Right, The donut has more "density". That said, I have never used a donut, but I have young eyes and find that my chevron is really fast. can't go wrong  ACOG!*edit* If it really matters, the TA31F's M855, 14.5" BDC calibration is more of an all around calibration suitable for 55-75,77 grain ammo than the TA31's M193, 20" BDC calibration. This only really shows up past 300? meters. It probably isn't an issue for 90% of the people. Probably would be a difference in which shirt button you want to hold on at 500 meters. |
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The TA31A's solid triangle is the brightest and easiest to pick up, and still provides plenty of combat accuracy. It is my preference, having used all three. I would pick the donut as my second choice, and the chevron as a distant third. The chevron is the hardest to pick up, and in real-world shooting, you really gain nothing from the "potential accuracy" that it may offer from the bench. Just to give you an idea, I was able to reliably, as in every time, hit a 12" gong in a gusty cross-wind at 300m this weekend with my TA31A. I handed my rifle over to my friend, who hasn't shot in 15 years, and after a couple of shots, he was doing the same thing. Heck, we even shot up some Wolf someone had given me to see if we could still do it, and were able to ring that gong 90% of the time. But the real test is when engaging multiple targets from 20-75m. After doing that for a few minutes, it becomes abundantly clear that any misses are purely the fault of the operator, because the rifle/optic combo will hit a pepper popper EVERY TIME as fast as you can move the gun from one target to the next. Only an AimPoint/EOTech would be faster, and only slightly. Triangle or Donut for me, thanks, and RED illumination. -Troy |
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