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8/7/2009 12:28:53 AM EDT
What is the best AMERICAN ammo out there for home defense, law enforcement, etc. that is non corrosive? I was going to get 800 rounds of remington umc from cabelas but i heard that is blah.  

So again, AMERICAN / home defense / law enforcement

MAKE / GRAIN

I've got a 1:7 twist
8/7/2009 12:44:24 AM EDT
[#1]
I never tried the UMC because I noticed it is 45 grain and most FMJ is 55gr, I like the PMC or the Remington green box as both sell for $10.00 a box and Cabelas will make you a bulk box of either. The PMC travels better as it has no plastic or foam insert in the box and it shoots well.
8/7/2009 12:50:56 AM EDT
[#2]
UMC has 55gr fmj and it is usually the cheapest bullet they sell. around 10.00 a box at walmart. I would go with Hornady TAP as maybe the best. Military uses Lake City and you couldn't go wrong there. probably a bit cheaper to.
8/7/2009 12:54:41 AM EDT
[#3]

read the tacked thread:

"Best choices for defensive ammunition - Updated 8/1/2009
Please refer to this article if you have questions about what ammunition you should use for self-defense"
http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_Defense_Ammo_FAQ/index.htm

ar-jedi

8/7/2009 1:22:10 AM EDT
[#4]


I would go with a 75 or 77 grain, how long is your barrel?  I would look at TAP.

8/7/2009 1:22:42 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:

read the tacked thread:

"Best choices for defensive ammunition - Updated 8/1/2009
Please refer to this article if you have questions about what ammunition you should use for self-defense"
http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_Defense_Ammo_FAQ/index.htm

ar-jedi



thanks good to know.

One last thing i didnt see on there, for home defense would i want a lower grain or higher grain?
8/7/2009 1:23:15 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
I would go with a 75 or 77 grain, how long is your barrel?  I would look at TAP.



16.1'' barrel
8/7/2009 1:41:25 AM EDT
[#7]
Huh?  Where'd that extra .1 inches come from?
8/7/2009 2:05:24 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Huh?  Where'd that extra .1 inches come from?


From Noveske?????
8/7/2009 2:29:10 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Huh?  Where'd that extra .1 inches come from?


according to my Colt 6940le owners manual on page 4, it states the barrel length is 16.1''
8/7/2009 7:30:35 AM EDT
[#10]
Shoot a large variety and find out what your rifle likes to eat. My new Rifle shoots the Remington UMC 55 gr like buckshot, which makes me very sad since it's cheap and readily available @ walmart. It seems to like the XM 193. Probably will really like some nice expensive match ammo. Starting to remind me of taking the wife to dinner
8/7/2009 8:47:15 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Huh?  Where'd that extra .1 inches come from?


i believe they do that so that they aren't right on the line legally, just for good measure.  should something happen during manufacturing and the barrel come up just a little short some ATF prick could have their ass for sending out an SBR upper or something.  i've noticed that a lot of manufacturers on the actual specs their barrels are 16.1.  i'm pretty sure my BCM is.
8/7/2009 8:48:36 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Quoted:
read the tacked thread:
"Best choices for defensive ammunition - Updated 8/1/2009
Please refer to this article if you have questions about what ammunition you should use for self-defense"
http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_Defense_Ammo_FAQ/index.htm

One last thing i didnt see on there, for home defense would i want a lower grain or higher grain?


???

there is a ton of info on this subject in the link above, specifically:

http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_Defense_Ammo_FAQ/index.htm#.223

http://www.ar15.com/content/page.html?id=185

http://www.box.net/public/static/a5yybdgztv.pdf

ar-jedi


8/7/2009 8:49:21 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Shoot a large variety and find out what your rifle likes to eat. My new Rifle shoots the Remington UMC 55 gr like buckshot, which makes me very sad since it's cheap and readily available @ walmart. It seems to like the XM 193. Probably will really like some nice expensive match ammo. Starting to remind me of taking the wife to dinner


too bad you can't just ask your gun what it likes to eat.
8/7/2009 8:55:07 AM EDT
[#14]
Hornady TAP 75gr is the best. But thats my .02 Cents
8/7/2009 9:05:28 AM EDT
[#15]
Phew! I was afraid he was going to ask if Wolf would make his girlfiend leave and his fridge stop running.

8/7/2009 3:41:58 PM EDT
[#16]
i've heard the same from many.  I'm going to get 10 boxes. thanks guys
8/7/2009 3:57:15 PM EDT
[#17]
Tap for Home-def...   mostly... or my 45 full of HST's... depending on where i am in the house?



Seriously though, Tap is good stuff... but shooting baddy with ANY 556 round will prolly ruin their day =)
8/7/2009 5:33:33 PM EDT
[#18]
ok. my intent was to buy 10 boxes at a local store which is normally high in price.  The guy over the phone quoted $24.97.  I got to the store and told the hot chick behind the counter, let me get 10 boxes.  She said wow you almost bought all of them.  I said how many do you have left, she said 1, i said i'll take it.  She said man people are going to be pissed at you. I said why, she said because this is about the best ammo you can get, and were out now.  To my surprise it was $22.97 a box, .02 cents cheaper than cabelas.
8/7/2009 5:50:19 PM EDT
[#19]
i second the motion....75 gr TAP
8/7/2009 6:03:54 PM EDT
[#20]
is there a significant difference in the .223 versus the 5.56 versions? I know a 5.56 can shoot the .223 but not the other way around but what are the pros and cons? I forgot the details but I remember something about the pressures having to do with it..can anyone enlighten me?
8/8/2009 4:52:43 PM EDT
[#21]
So like i said i bought 11 boxes of Hornady Tap FPD.  I'm looking at the box and it says 1/9'' twist or faster my barrel is 1/7'' twist.  I read in my manual my barrel can take 55 grain - 77 grain. is this going to be a problem???
8/8/2009 5:01:20 PM EDT
[#22]
You will be GTG with 1/7
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