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9/28/2009 3:19:06 PM EDT
[#1]
I had my gunsmith remove the integral brake, and install this one.
Nemo Me Impune lacesset
9/28/2009 3:56:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Chris_1522][Edited] [#2]
Originally Posted By Archibald:
If I wanted to install a flash hider onto my AR180B, to replicate the appearance of the original AR18 or AR180, would this be correct:

http://www.sogarmory.com/ImageHandler.ashx?ImageName=5620_3.jpg&Thumbnail=true&MaxWidth=300&MaxHeight=300
http://www.sogarmory.com/Product.aspx?ProductId=101351

"Product Description

Not to be confused with newer versions. This unit follows the original 1980's vortex design. Eliminates nearly 100% of the flash signature even on full auto. US MADE. Meets or exceeds Mil-spec"



Also, how long would the barrel have to be?


I would just get a three-prong flash hider. The originals use a three-prong design with a large, solid bottom prong and two prongs at the top. In other words, the slots are arranged as an upside-down "T".

The prongs have a smaller diameter than the grooved portion where the threads are. I think a 3-prong flash hider comes closest to matching the look of the originals, though the prongs are not the same shape and they have a tapered rather than constant diameter.

One like this...

Also, the originals did not use a crush washer or peel washer, instead they used a jam nut. You'll need a slightly longer threaded portion than an AR-15 has so you can fit both the threaded portion of the FH and the jam nut.
1/3/2010 10:33:50 AM EDT
[#4]
Originally Posted By GI_Brat:
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Originally Posted By MTNmyMag:
Anybody know about what accuracy level?



Not sure about others, but mine isn't that accurate. I'd compare it to the Mini-14 as far as accuracy.


OUCH
1/7/2010 5:58:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Urban_Ops][Edited] [#5]
StormWerkz just introduced a new tall mount for the 180B so it is easier to use regular rifle scopes.
No need for extra high or see-through rings to get the ocular lens to clear the rear sight.
Here

StormWerkz.com
1/7/2010 11:16:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BravoMan5632][Edited] [#6]
What the hell... I haven't posted here in a while....
Here is a few shots from when I took my sister in law shooting for her first time last weekend.





2/25/2010 10:02:11 PM EDT
[#7]
Originally Posted By Urban_Ops:
I may look at stamping some dust covers.
As far as the AK charging handle- I am trying to retain the likeness of the original Ar-180 so probably not.


How bout stamping some bolt catches while you're at it?  I would pay a handsome price for one ( < $100 though....)
4/6/2010 11:35:49 PM EDT
[#8]
Here's my rig:



4/8/2010 2:07:42 AM EDT
[#9]


How well does that PMAG work?  Does it drop free?
5/4/2010 12:28:54 PM EDT
[#10]


Armalite AR-180B


“A man ought to do what he thinks is right” - John Wayne

"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine." - Thomas Jefferson
5/11/2010 8:30:54 AM EDT
[#11]
Originally Posted By Chris_1522:
Originally Posted By Archibald:
If I wanted to install a flash hider onto my AR180B, to replicate the appearance of the original AR18 or AR180, would this be correct:

http://www.sogarmory.com/ImageHandler.ashx?ImageName=5620_3.jpg&Thumbnail=true&MaxWidth=300&MaxHeight=300
http://www.sogarmory.com/Product.aspx?ProductId=101351

"Product Description

Not to be confused with newer versions. This unit follows the original 1980's vortex design. Eliminates nearly 100% of the flash signature even on full auto. US MADE. Meets or exceeds Mil-spec"

Also, how long would the barrel have to be?


I would just get a three-prong flash hider. The originals use a three-prong design with a large, solid bottom prong and two prongs at the top. In other words, the slots are arranged as an upside-down "T".

The prongs have a smaller diameter than the grooved portion where the threads are. I think a 3-prong flash hider comes closest to matching the look of the originals, though the prongs are not the same shape and they have a tapered rather than constant diameter.

One like this...

Also, the originals did not use a crush washer or peel washer, instead they used a jam nut. You'll need a slightly longer threaded portion than an AR-15 has so you can fit both the threaded portion of the FH and the jam nut.


Liking those...
6/16/2010 5:12:51 PM EDT
[#12]
Coming soon.
Under-Handguard Rail
Add a bipod and or vertical/angle grip !
This one is not anodized so it is easier to see. Magpul AFG not included

StormWerkz.com
6/17/2010 10:16:46 PM EDT
[#13]
Originally Posted By Urban_Ops:
Coming soon.
Under-Handguard Rail
Add a bipod and or vertical/angle grip !
This one is not anodized so it is easier to see. Magpul AFG not included
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/josh54880/AR-180%20UHR-180-01/IMG_0153.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/josh54880/AR-180%20UHR-180-01/IMG_0152.jpg


How about a dust cover or some quick release pins?

6/26/2010 11:00:35 PM EDT
[#14]
Originally Posted By Urban_Ops:
Coming soon.
Under-Handguard Rail
Add a bipod and or vertical/angle grip !
This one is not anodized so it is easier to see. Magpul AFG not included
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/josh54880/AR-180%20UHR-180-01/IMG_0153.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/josh54880/AR-180%20UHR-180-01/IMG_0152.jpg


Does it require removal of the lower handguard to install?    If not I'm in like flynn on that one!
6/26/2010 11:43:19 PM EDT
[#15]
Originally Posted By Madcap72:
Originally Posted By Urban_Ops:
Coming soon.
Under-Handguard Rail
Add a bipod and or vertical/angle grip !
This one is not anodized so it is easier to see. Magpul AFG not included
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/josh54880/AR-180%20UHR-180-01/IMG_0153.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/josh54880/AR-180%20UHR-180-01/IMG_0152.jpg


Does it require removal of the lower handguard to install?    If not I'm in like flynn on that one!


The 180B does not require the removal of the lower handguard, the early 180s may to get the backing plate under the heat shield.
StormWerkz.com
6/28/2010 7:47:47 PM EDT
[#16]
The Under Handguard Rails are now shipping :)


StormWerkz.com
7/11/2010 1:20:18 AM EDT
[#17]


Awesome idea as always but I have a question.....

Wouldn't the installation of the rail cause cooling problems since it totally blocks all the vent holes in the forearm?
I only ask because I know mine would heat up very quickly before I installed the MI railed forearm with all the extra airflow....
7/11/2010 1:44:26 PM EDT
[#18]





Looks great. I wish you had these before I made my own. It would've saved me a lot of work.



 
8/5/2010 3:04:39 PM EDT
[#19]
One of my customers just got back from Thunder Ranch. Had used the Under Handguard Rail on the Ar-180B and said it really rocked.
Used a Grip-pod with it and zero issues, If there is going to be a heat problem it will be using a carbine at the Ranch, apparently heat was never an issue.
I don't know if he is a member here or not.
StormWerkz.com
8/16/2010 12:25:15 AM EDT
[#20]
Used one of my AR180B's in Thunder Ranch's Urban Rifle Course in 2007 and it ran like a champ, one of the few guns that did.
11/10/2010 4:35:52 PM EDT
[#21]
Hi is this an aluminum lower reciever,  I have a 180B and have added the Midwest industries handguard and scope rail just love the gun.....the only thing I hate is the "PLASTIC" lower,  did you create this lower?  What was the cost......awesome idea.
11/25/2010 9:35:55 AM EDT
[#22]
I'm thinking of having my local gunny chop and thread the barrel on my Armalite 180B and get rid of the factory integral brake (preban gun).What I'm wondering is if I cut it down to 14.5 and have him pin the flashhider will I still have enough barrel past the gas block to maintain proper dwell time so the gas system will function correctly.There would be approximately 2.75 inches past the gas port if the barrel were cut to 14.5 inches.I don't want to do anything to jeopardize reliability,so this has me undecided.Have any of you guys ever did this to your 180B? I may just have it cut to 16" and be done with it,but wouldn't mind it being a touch shorter.
12/24/2010 9:35:30 PM EDT
[#23]
Originally Posted By Urban_Ops:
Well I have been asked by so many customers to sell my precious crank style handle I decided I had better start them in production.
Requires a 1/8" notch cut in the bolt carrier like the origina( 5 minute job with an 1/8" endmill)l. This is also a replacement for lost factory cranks.
Here is the final result-almost, the production will be blasted before parkerizing, I just tossed this one in the tank to get some pics.
What do you think?

original Ar-180, StormWerkz, Ar-180B charging handles
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/josh54880/Ar-180b%20charging%20handle/DSCF3127-1.jpg

StormWerkz charging handle
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/josh54880/Ar-180b%20charging%20handle/DSCF3131-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/josh54880/Ar-180b%20charging%20handle/DSCF3138-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/josh54880/Ar-180b%20charging%20handle/DSCF3137-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/josh54880/Ar-180b%20charging%20handle/DSCF3132-1.jpg


Ilike the crank!  I ordered one for my Sterling.  The 1//8 square key has an issue, and I want to have a spare crank.
12/31/2010 7:26:31 PM EDT
[#24]
I've added a couple accessories to my rifle since the last time I posted photos. I added a light and I switched over to a Primary Arms M4 red dot sight. I haven't tested the sight on my 180 yet but I did go to the range with it on my 10/22 and it works great. The sight has a riser as part of the mount for it to co-witness with standard AR15 sights but since it won't co-witness with my sights I'm going to remove the riser.








1/2/2011 4:10:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: hepcat85][Edited] [#25]


I'm amazed that Armalite still hasn't given the AR-180B the attention it deserves. They're sitting on a great design. Even if they decided to let the aftermarket R&D the possibility for them, they could have already added a few innovations into a AR-180Charlie by now.
In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror and murder, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had 500 years of democracy and peace and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock
1/15/2011 11:46:53 AM EDT
[#26]
I did a name change from Gyrodude to tchick. I use tchick on other forums so I decided to change to that here also. Here's a photo of the Primary Arms M4 with the spacer removed. I can't wait to take it out to a range and try it out.



http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/tt141/tchick_bucket/AR-180/M4onAR180.jpg
1/18/2011 4:54:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MAGZ][Edited] [#27]
Having some problems with my AR180B overall gun shoots and handles fine, when the mag is empty and the bolt locks to the rear. When the mag is removed the bolt drops and when I lock the bolt to the rear it does not hold. Is there any parts or modification to be done to fix my problem. Any help will do thanks
1/18/2011 8:24:10 PM EDT
[#28]
Sounds like maybe your bolt catch is worn out.
1/19/2011 10:38:11 PM EDT
[#29]
AR 180 Costa Mesa born, bought it from the original owner...he shot 100 times over the last 40+ years...he parted with it because he was getting rid of weapons in his old age. He has a Colt FA A2 sitting in his cabinet also. Offered him $4,000 for it..he almost sold it to me, and he will eventually.



The AR 180 is in amazing condition, he had never cleaned it and when I broke it down there was very carbon build-up on the piston..it looks brand new on this inside of the gun.









"I just assumed it was a nice elderly lady."



1/19/2011 10:46:20 PM EDT
[#30]
A couple more..







"I just assumed it was a nice elderly lady."



1/21/2011 11:29:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: tchick][Edited] [#31]
Nice.



 
2/15/2011 12:54:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AR-Performance][Edited] [#32]
Anyone tried to SBR a 180? I have seen everything else here but I am looking for the most compact lightweight rifle. AR's will not get there because of the buffer, the SCAR I have is a little heavy even if I cut the barrel down, HKs are a lot heavy so I am thinking about a 180B converted to 6.8 with a 12" barrel. I think the OAL would be around 21" folded and under 6lbs of course the AR Magpul stock and buffer tube may add some weight. I made a few mid length op rods, a barrel is no problem and I think I can take a day and make a 180 bolt.
ETA -tues, barrel and op rod done, need to make a bolt and figure out a rail of some sort.
AR15 uppers & rifles http://www.AR15Performance.com
[url]http://www.ar15techforums.com/BBS/forumdisplay.php?f=3[/url]

The super-rich get richer because they control government, the rest get poorer
2/21/2011 1:22:39 AM EDT
[#33]
I'd be interested to see how this comes out...
5/21/2011 6:59:38 PM EDT
[#34]
Here's some shitty pics of my AR180B.

Midwest Industries top rail and forward rail.  Ace stock, Original AR180 crankhandle.  Optic is a Pentax HS20.







5/22/2011 10:18:19 PM EDT
[#35]
Here's mine. She's a Sterling AR-180 I swapped over for my ex's M-4gery I built for her.  Oh well, I still have my M-4gery and my son still has his CAR-15/M-4gery so it's not a big loss.  Anyways, the one thing that bugs me is the price of original magazines.  However, since I have a crap-ton, metric, one of, each, M-16 mags around and the details of how to convert M-16 mags to AR-180 mags, it's not really an issue.  I have a couple mags I converted that have some feeding problems but it's no big deal to make more of them, rip the guts out of the bad mags and use them as manual of arms mags that will lock in yet still allow the bolt to be retracted and released like a loaded mag will.  Anyways, here she is:





Here's my M-4gery I still have:


And here's my son's CAR-15/M-4gery that I'm waiting for him to grow into:
11/5/2011 9:53:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: offctr][Edited] [#36]
whoops wrong thread meant to post in the ar10 pic thread.
Soylent green tastes like chicken

950 billion dollars --is that enough change for you America?

I'll keep My guns,My Freedom and My money.
You can keep the"change".
11/6/2011 3:57:00 PM EDT
[#37]
Say out there, I have an older 180 with an original single ring scope mount.  Where can I find a weaver that fits these?  I've seen them here in many of the pics posted.
11/29/2011 9:09:31 PM EDT
[#38]
StormWerkz / Primary Arms micro red dot Integral co-witness mount for the Armalite Ar-180 and Ar-180B



StormWerkz.com
11/29/2011 9:57:26 PM EDT
[#39]


1/17/2012 11:17:50 PM EDT
[#40]
StormWerkz.com
1/18/2012 7:57:33 AM EDT
[#41]


That same mount is going to go on my Howa very soon. Sexy as hell.
4/14/2012 9:35:23 PM EDT
[#42]





Man, you should do one for the H1 or T1 or even the Vortex Sparc.
 
4/14/2012 9:35:53 PM EDT
[#43]





Nice



 
6/2/2012 11:40:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Peninsulam_Amoenam][Edited] [#44]
Here's my humble contribution
http://www.flickr.com/photos/79909170@N07/7324667888/in/photostream

Apparently I'm missing something when it comes to this picture upload thing...
6/19/2012 2:26:40 AM EDT
[#45]



Originally Posted By Peninsulam_Amoenam:


Here's my humble contribution

http://www.flickr.com/photos/79909170@N07/7324667888/in/photostream



Apparently I'm missing something when it comes to this picture upload thing...


Fixed it for you.









 
6/19/2012 1:30:47 PM EDT
[#46]
Sweet, thanks hahaha

How'd you do it?
6/26/2012 10:45:33 PM EDT
[#47]



Originally Posted By Peninsulam_Amoenam:


Sweet, thanks hahaha



How'd you do it?


It's a bunch of fucking around with Flickr.



Just jeep right-clicking and selecting "view image" until you get a URL that has the actual .jpg image in it.  Than copy that and post it here.



 
6/27/2012 1:19:23 AM EDT
[#48]
Thank you much!
7/22/2012 10:47:04 PM EDT
[#49]



Originally Posted By larry5937:


Say out there, I have an older 180 with an original single ring scope mount.  Where can I find a weaver that fits these?  I've seen them here in many of the pics posted.


http://www.stormwerkz.com/StormWerkz_Scope_Mounts.html



I have one of the StormWerkz rails on my Sterling. It works great. I may upgrade to their Primary Arms red dot rail in the near future.







 
1/16/2013 3:39:08 PM EDT
[#50]
I don't care what anyone says. Armalite missed the boat in NOT further developing the AR180 Charlie. Just a random mini-rant.
In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror and murder, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had 500 years of democracy and peace and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

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