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1/16/2004 5:52:21 PM EDT
Anyone have one of these or seen one?
1/16/2004 6:18:02 PM EDT
[#1]
I have one. What do you want to know?
1/16/2004 6:30:58 PM EDT
[#2]
Do you have any pictures of it installed. Are  you using it on the bottom rail?
1/16/2004 6:34:27 PM EDT
[#3]
I don't have a dig. camera. I don't know what you mean by using the bottom rail. Could you elaborate?
1/16/2004 7:08:31 PM EDT
[#4]
Where do you have it installed? 12-3-6-9 O'clock? What was your reason for purchasing it?
1/16/2004 7:19:57 PM EDT
[#5]
The ARMS #4 replaces the dust cover on the upper receiver. I bought it to mount an optic on a FAL.

We are both talking about the updated version of this, right?

[img]http://www.mountsplus.com/images/products/item-4.gif[/img]

Sorry I must be dense, I still don't know what you are asking about. How can I mount anything anywhere on the ARMS but on top of it?
1/16/2004 7:58:21 PM EDT
[#6]
Thanks for the information,your not being dense. I E-mailed a dealer who listed the #4 as an FALR part. I think there is a #4 rail for the SIRS for the AR/M16 rifles. Sorry for the confusion. I'll  change the title.
1/16/2004 9:14:10 PM EDT
[#7]
The #4 rail for SIR is a full length rail for the bottom of the SIR. I dont have one, nor a picture of one. Sorry.
1/17/2004 10:00:26 AM EDT
[#8]
Here you go.  Next to a #3Rail, for comparison.  The #4's on a #50SC, an dthe #3's on a #58MOD.

[img][url="http://www.hunt101.com/?p=90514&c=500&z=1"][img]http://www.hunt101.com/img/090514.jpg[/img][/url][/img]

Hope that helps.

/S2
1/17/2004 10:18:22 AM EDT
[#9]
Thanks, that's very helpful!
1/17/2004 10:21:01 AM EDT
[#10]
The #4 rails can be bought from WES at [url=http://www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=2&f=134][b]MSTN[/b][/url]. IMO the #4 rail should be a standard rail included with any SIR and not an option.

[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid99/p335a3075de0701077082faeddae9fa99/f9eb0b19.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid99/p16200947d16850573168b751145487ad/f9eb0b16.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid99/pfb2bc5c7a51b09c6d463540e64d557f6/f9eb0b17.jpg[/img]
Here is a #4 rail on my SIR #50

1/17/2004 3:13:02 PM EDT
[#11]
Does this decrease the flexing with a vertical grip that new-arguy mentioned in one to his posts? One would assume at minimum it would decrease flex due to the wider base of support.
1/17/2004 3:32:17 PM EDT
[#12]
Well the #4 Rail does have 3 points of attachemt, spread out more evenly across the entire length verses the 2 points of attachement on the #3 rail that are more to one side.  I just swapped them out and the #4 seems slightly more solid than the #3.  With either rail flexing is minimal.   Heck, You'll have more play between upper & lower receivers than you will on the forward grip!
1/17/2004 9:14:02 PM EDT
[#13]
Ah man! I never noticed you had a #4 rail on your M4... I will have to take a closer look next time.
1/17/2004 9:27:13 PM EDT
[#14]
The poylmer they use has very little flex, but enough to flex instead of crack in cold weather. Since no aimers are mounted under there, it is more than rugged for everything else and will also survive the extremme heat of full auto like nothing else I have seen.
Good shootin, Jack
1/17/2004 9:47:25 PM EDT
[#15]
I did post that the synthetic lower of the SIR did have some flex or sway in it when cranking down on a forward grip. I also said the FF aluminum railed forends like the RAS II have a more solid feel to them with the forward grip. I said that and I stand by it. But there's a lot more to consider, and I think Jack just touched on that.

Everything is a compromise and everything has advantages as well as disadvantages. For me any my needs and prefferences, the slight flex I feel is a small price to pay for all the other advantages having a synthetic lower half offers.

Just wanted to qualify that...
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