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7/6/2005 8:27:47 AM EDT
I am in the process of planning my first AR, and I have been researching everything that I can find about AR's and their use, operation, and customization possibilities.  I was looking at a website that offered a book that promised an AR build with NO PAPERWORK.  hock.gif

Is there any way?  I'm not looking to be illegal nor try to get around our government regs, but I would like to know what this author had in mind.  Any opinions??
7/6/2005 8:36:12 AM EDT
[#1]
Carve it from a raw chunk of billet aluminum, block of steel/stainless steel,  --OR--  no paperwork on an "80%" forging...


No law against making yout own.
7/6/2005 8:39:24 AM EDT
[#2]
Yes, buy a lower receiver face to face from another resident of your state.  The lower receiver is the only thing you have to do paperwork for.  Everything else can be bought via internet, mailorder, or the EE here on ar15.com.  MJD
7/6/2005 8:46:01 AM EDT
[#3]
Probably they are talking about building an AR from an 80% lower, which is a hunk of aluminum mostly shaped into the form of an AR lower, however you have to do some work yourself to finish it off so it is not considered a firearm.

I talked to a rep from one of the aluminum foundries that makes AR lowers for sale to AR manufacturers, they well 80% lowers direct sort of as a sideline. He claimed that with their directions finishing an 80% lower is easy enough for someone with basic mechanical skills ie if you can fix your own snowblowers lawn mowers was the example he used.
7/6/2005 8:56:48 AM EDT
[#4]
THANKS GUYS!

I had never known or heard about an 80% lower.hinking.gif

 WOW.  Been a member here for less than an hour, and already learned something valuable.

Thanks again for the info.  The thought of building a small collection of black rifles is exciting!  (Just don't tell the wife)hair.gif
7/6/2005 10:32:20 AM EDT
[#5]

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The thought of building a small collection of black rifles is exciting!  (Just don't tell the wife)



 
Trust me on this, once you get black rifle fever there is no such thing as a "small collection".  It starts with one, and then you begin to customize and then you realize you need to have a varmint upper, and then then you realize that upper should have its own lower and then... you get the idea.  MJD
7/6/2005 11:57:48 AM EDT
[#6]

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Yeah, I know.  Looking forward to it.  
7/6/2005 9:19:51 PM EDT
[#7]
Hey highwayman I dis agree. I had a total of nine.  I sold almost all of them to but a Colt RR M16.  I have one semi auto AR left.  I don't use it much.  The 16 is so much more fun to shoot.  If you have a big collection, I would recommend selling it all and buy a full auto.  I don't regret it for a minute.

scott
7/13/2005 3:18:08 AM EDT
[#8]
I Bought my 80% Lower from ar15plus.com prices start from $79.00
try them, it came goods I recommend you buy an forging and not an casting they also sell jiggs for the drilling of the the  lower
7/13/2005 10:24:30 AM EDT
[#9]
Can this mainly be done with a drill press?  I've looked into this and I don't want to get into buying a milling machine for something I don't have the funds for.  I've built from stipped receivers and would like to expand my satisfaction of finishing an 80%.
7/13/2005 10:47:10 AM EDT
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Can this mainly be done with a drill press?  I've looked into this and I don't want to get into buying a milling machine for something I don't have the funds for.  I've built from stipped receivers and would like to expand my satisfaction of finishing an 80%.



I think you could do it with a drill press and a jig.  Otherwise, you would at least need an indexable table to get the position correct for all the holes.  I use a mini-mill so its easy for me.
7/13/2005 1:19:42 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
THANKS GUYS!

I had never known or heard about an 80% lower.

 WOW.  Been a member here for less than an hour, and already learned something valuable.

Thanks again for the info.  The thought of building a small collection of black rifles is exciting!  (Just don't tell the wife)



This is where I first learned about 0-80% ers back in 2001. Still cutting metal today.
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