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Posted: 9/9/2009 7:55:26 AM EDT
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Does anyone make a milspec tubed stock with adjustable height for the cheek weld? Something more basic than the magpul stuff. I'm thinking something like an Emod with the replaceable covers being different heights...
My rifle gets used by a variety of shooters, some of which are female and have issues getting a proper sight picture with the setup I need. Obviously different mounts for the optics are an option, but then buis would be off.... The ideal solution would be an quickly changed piece or part on the stock to suit different users. I'm trying to lighten the rifle rather than make it heavier right now, so one of the heavy sniper style stocks is out. I saw the setup where you attach a rail to your carbine stock and then there's a piece that attaches to that. I'm not real fond of how it looks and seems to work but if anyone has one I'm open to comments about it. The problem I see with it is that being in CT my stock is pinned, at max length in this case. With that piece I imagine my cheek weld will be in front of it and rather uncomfortable. |
| Increasing stock height blocks the charging handle. Your cheek riser has to be too far to teh rear to be used as it should be... thus why the PRS is not needed by 99% of users. I have no idea what you mean by lowering the optic makes the BUIS off. It has no such effect unless I am misunderstanding you. |
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You guys missed the whole point here.
The problem is that if she puts her cheek down on the stock ANYWHERE, she's unable to see through the sights, she's basically looking underneath the optics. If she lifts up enough to see through the optics as they are now, she's got the stock at her jaw, if in contact at all. Obviously not very effective. Lowering the optics would certainly mess up the buis, they wouldn't have room to be on the gun under the scope in the back. The gun regularly has a traditional scope on it, not just a red dot. Even if just with a red dot, they'd go from 1/3 cowitness to 2/3. Not the end of the world, but not what i'd prefer. I'll have to take the optics off and see how the buis themselves line up for her to give me an estimate on just how much change is needed. Length of pull is workable for her, not perfect, but with the pinned issue in CT I'm not going to fiddle with it. I am the primary user and it's my gun, the stock length will just have to be pinned where it works for me if it's variable. I'm considering an A2 style stock and then a removable pad. The charging handle IS a pain but at least for me the riser could end before it would interfere. I will have to put the scope on and check if that's still the case, though I am 90% certain my cheek weld is very close to the same with both setups. I hadn't considered that issue at all. |
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The command arms one might work, I'd have to change where I mounted the regular scope to get proper eye relief but that's not an issue. I don't mind keeping my head further back either. The only questions I've got are whether I'm going to wind up with that pattern imprinted on my face and how well it's made. That photo doesn't really give the best impression of quality construction.
The little rail mounted one I saw before was a very limited spot to put your cheek, very far back. This one looks like it comes far enough forward to be reasonably comfortable and not have the edge digging into your face. |
| Do you have a picture of the setup in question with the scope mounted that you can post? Unless the scope is mounted on a carry handle I can not see how it would be to high. Also, if it is a traditional scope (magnified optic I assume) then it will have and eye relief issue if your head is too far back on the stock. |
That predates the buis, which are a mbus set. The eye height's perfect for me, but her face is smaller and the scope's just too high to be comfy. 
The Primary Arms M3 multi is mounted to be a lower 1/3 cowitness with the mbus, the scope is mounted so it clears the mbus with enough room to slip the covers off and that's about it. As you can see, I can move the scope back a notch if I am changing where I put my head, it's not a lot of adjustment but it'd probably be enough with that scope. With the buis on I can't move back any further than one notch or the mbus winds up in the way of my fingers getting on the charging handle. I'm starting to think that she's probably just the right height for the buis as is though, just can't test it till she's around next. The gal in question isn't my gf, but she's over here with her bf fairly regularly so hopefully we can check it this coming week and be ready for the next outing. If she's good with that height then we'll just forget the scope with her and let her use open sights and maybe pick up a cheap red dot to mount at the right height for her to use. I just had my housemate try it, and she had the same issue, even the buis are a bit high, she got her face into a comfy spot and then opened her eyes and she was too low for the sights. Not bad, she could use the buis without being way out of her comfort range, but still not really a good head position. I'm almost thinking that the solution is to stick entirely with red dots for the gals and they just look through where it's comfortable and the dot is simply low in the tube. Even for me, if I get my face down tight like I would a high powered rifle or shotgun, all the aiming options are too high up. I was limited by the height of my iron sights and setup the optics to match. I can use it comfortably and I'm sure most adult men could as well, without even noticing, but petite women seem to run into problems. |
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