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2/15/2016 11:12:58 PM EDT
So I am looking to finally buy an optic for my AR-15 and other guns.

I am leaning towards the Aimpoint Micro but know nothing about them or optics in general.

What is the difference between the H-1, T-1, 4 MOA or 2 MOA? Are there better red-dot sights out there?

Appreciate any input to point me in the right direction.
2/15/2016 11:21:16 PM EDT
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difference in the H model vs the T, is that the T model is night vision compatible.





2MOA vs 4MOA is just the dot size. The 4 MOA is slightly larger. 4 MOA may suit your needs if you shoot close quarters.





I've been referring people to the Trijicon MRO. You get the small size and weigh like the Aimpoints. The Trijicon has open adjustment and "ambidextrous" power control knob; which i feel makes it superior to Aimpoint mirco series.

2/15/2016 11:25:26 PM EDT
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difference in the H model vs the T, is that the T model is night vision compatible.

2MOA vs 4MOA is just the dot size. The 4 MOA is slightly larger. 4 MOA may suit your needs if you shoot close quarters.
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So without nightvision it is a total waste of money correct?

So H-1 4-MOA if I am shooting regular non-night vision and CQ.

2/15/2016 11:34:35 PM EDT
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So without nightvision it is a total waste of money correct?





So H-1 4-MOA if I am shooting regular non-night vision and CQ.





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difference in the H model vs the T, is that the T model is night vision compatible.





2MOA vs 4MOA is just the dot size. The 4 MOA is slightly larger. 4 MOA may suit your needs if you shoot close quarters.






So without nightvision it is a total waste of money correct?





So H-1 4-MOA if I am shooting regular non-night vision and CQ.








lol yes, a waste of money and the H-1 4MOA will suit your needs for close range shooting and non-magnified. If you plan to use a magnifier one day, go with 2MOA.



Im sure you could comfortably go out to 200yds with 4MOA.





 
2/15/2016 11:46:16 PM EDT
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If you never see night vision in your future go with the H1/H2. I would go with the 2 MOA over the 4 MOA at any range. I have both and prefer the 2 MOA. The larger dot will cover more target at longer distances. The H2 will have a better dot should you want to use a magnifier at some point. If possible I would see if you can find someone in the NV Hometown forum close to you that would let you try one before you buy. No experience with a MRO so I can't comment. Right now I have a 4 MOA T1 a 2 MOA T1 and a 2 MOA T2 with two more T2s on the way. If you can describe the type of shooting you plan on doing that might narrow down your choices.
2/16/2016 12:18:09 AM EDT
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I'd stay away of the MRO.  Read a bit...too many issues to risk it right now.  

Definitely go 2MOA.  You can turn the brightness up to make the dot bigger, but you can never make a 4MOA seem like a 2MOA.

I only go the "T" versions.  The T2 has a little more clarity than the T-1.  I'd get the Larue LT660 combo T2 if I were you.  It's very nice.
2/16/2016 2:50:15 AM EDT
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Thanks for the replies!

Since I never see night vision in my future Ill be sticking with the H-1. Plus I save a little $$$ so I am cool with that!

I am leaning towards the 2 MOA just based on pics I have seen. I plan on throwing one on my Vepr 12 and the AR-15.

These micros are pretty rugged right? No worries on beating them up?
2/16/2016 3:10:33 AM EDT
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These micros are pretty rugged right? No worries on beating them up?
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A few years ago the PR team at Daniel Defense did of video of some torture tests to show off the ruggedness of their DDM4 rifles. One of the tests was a 60 foot drop out of a helicopter, after which the tester picked up the rifle and used the Aimpoint T1 mounted to it to hit some targets with virtually no loss in zero. Interestingly thanks to that vid, they probably ended up selling more Aimpoint Micro sights than their own rifle.
2/16/2016 3:44:15 AM EDT
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I'd stay away of the MRO.  Read a bit...too many issues to risk it right now.  
Definitely go 2MOA.  You can turn the brightness up to make the dot bigger, but you can never make a 4MOA seem like a 2MOA.
I only go the "T" versions.  The T2 has a little more clarity than the T-1.  I'd get the Larue LT660 combo T2 if I were you.  It's very nice.
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Not entirely accurate. The majority of complaints (lens tint, slight magnification, etc) are non-issues that have been addressed by Trijicon's MRO FAQ and those who've done a side-by-side comparison w/the Micro.
Check out the MRO thread here, I posted a couple of torture-test videos showing MRO's attached to rifles being dropped optic-first several times onto concrete (amongst other tests) w/only cosmetic damage.
The only outright failures in more than 20K units produced have been reported in the MRO thread here and nowhere else on the 'net that I can find.
The two I purchased have worked so well that I've ordered two more.
FWIW, Aimpoints come w/a 10yr warranty (2yr if for competition or professional use) whereas the MRO has a lifetime warranty.

Tomac
2/16/2016 4:49:37 AM EDT
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I sold all my Aimpoints micros and replaced them with the MRO. 3 total and 2 more on the way, all have been good to go.
The "problems" in most cases are from people never leaving the house with it and actually using the sight.
Arfcom over blown.
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