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1/7/2004 7:25:06 PM EDT
Hello, I know everyone comes here and ask for help and picking a AR, well as you can read here is another help me topic. I would like to get my 1st AR and the gun shops that I go to only carries the Bushmaster line. I'm not looking to build one so please don't suggest it, I want one complete and then learn everything I can then build one later now the road. It will be use for range, plinking and fun. I would like to keep price under $1000.00, what about the BM PCWA3Y-16SL or the BM AZ-C15P97 I know two different models.

Thanks in Advance Alicia
1/7/2004 7:56:01 PM EDT
[#1]
Bushmaster makes a quality rifle.

Avoid Hesse Arms, Vulcan Arms and Century Arms (AR15s)like the plague, most of the other major manufacturers are OK depending on what you want.
1/7/2004 8:03:48 PM EDT
[#2]
DPMS (Panther Arms) has a fine AR line if your looking for a lower price and you do not require a chrome lined barrel.
Great quality and the DPMS bull barrelled AR's are very accurate.

[url]http://www.dpmsinc.com/10Browse.asp[/url]

This guy goes for about $690
[img]http://www.dpmsinc.com/Products/RFA2-16_aa.jpg[/img]
1/7/2004 8:10:21 PM EDT
[#3]
CDNN investments has Bushmaster M4A2 w/ chrome-lined barrel for $749. That is pretty cheap for what you get, it will really last esp. w/ the lifetime warrenty.
1/7/2004 8:46:32 PM EDT
[#4]
BM Dissipator gets my vote, and Welcome to the Board!  [coffee]
1/7/2004 9:36:48 PM EDT
[#5]
Another vote for Bushmaster.  The chrome lining of the 5.56 chamber and bore makes the rifle less finicky on ammo.  I would also look at CDNN or AIM Surplus, then find a local FFL to transfer the rifle to you.  I have found that in some cases, pawn shops are good about doing transfers cheap.  

For a first AR, reliability is crucial, if you had my buddy's Olympic FrankenAR, you would never get another one, b/c it jams all the time.  I think price being the deciding factor, Bushys are the way to go.  Armalite and Colt are great also, just pricier.  For me, make it a M4 and a Dissapator.  Good luck, and good shooting!
1/8/2004 5:17:24 AM EDT
[#6]
Thanks, for the info on diffrent types of AR, I just didn't want to get taken for a ride.

Alicia
1/8/2004 5:44:53 AM EDT
[#7]
Bushmaster, you can't go wrong with any model they make.
1/8/2004 6:35:52 AM EDT
[#8]
Get BUSHMASTER!!!!!!!
1/8/2004 7:19:21 AM EDT
[#9]
I thought New Jersey  had one of them funny gun bans.  Like, no ARs or something.
1/8/2004 7:29:14 AM EDT
[#10]
Greetings!

Get a Bushmaster.

~ s0ulzer0
1/8/2004 8:09:27 AM EDT
[#11]
I got a Rock River Arms and saved about 200 bucks as opposed to a Bushmaster give or take.

Most would agree that RRA is the same quality as the BM, then again some wouldn't.

You sure do have a lot of research to do.

Welcome to the boards


edtied to add, the cheapest I could find them was at kyarms.com I cannot vouch for them as my local gunstore decided to match their price.

I just looked and they have a complete 20" for 600 even. Bushmaster sells about he same rifle off their page for a neat ONE THOUSAND dollars!

I did the math and research and it was a no brainer for me.
1/8/2004 8:43:57 AM EDT
[#12]
I don't know if this is acceptable to you or not, but it's what I did because my shop was expensive, and didn't carry much, but would order just about anything. You can mail order a complete upper and have your store order a complete lower for you.  Once you have both, they simply pin together and the rifle is complete - minus magazine.

I went the Rock River route, as it cost $710.00 for my A2 20 inch upper and standard trigger  receiver.  It also turned out to be a great looking rifle in machining and finish.  RRA states a 1 MOA accuracy on most of their uppers (perhaps all).  Check out their site [url]www.rockriverarms.com[/url]  The only thing missing is a mag, owner's manual and box.  The magazines that come with new rifles only hold 10 rounds, so they are not really very important anyhow.

If your shop won't order you a lower, you can buy directly from [url]www.adcofirearms.com[/url] ($219 + transfer fee) and have it shipped ($4 flat) to your FFL.  If $1000 is your budget, you can order a lot of accessories (;like the Harris SL-M bipod and Harris handgaurd bipod adaptor for $100) with the remaining $250 bucks or so, or upgrade to National Match trigger version for extra $100.

Cost for lower should be less than $250 if your shop orders from RRA directly... took 5 days from factory order to delivery to my shop.

Do yourself a favor and look at the RRA's through ADCO, they are the best prices, and also are very knowledgable folks who usually respond to emails within hours, when you have a question.

I'm sure this sounds like an adco-lovefest, but I have had great service from them over the last couple months and wanted to share.

[blue][b]Don't forget, we're gonna need pics here when you finally get it.[/b][[/blue]  [:D]
1/8/2004 11:15:10 AM EDT
[#13]
Jimmybcool, Yes u r right NJ does ban AR's and the like but I plan on moving to PA by the time the assult ban expires(praying) then I could get whatever I want. If not just living in PA will be better than NJ any day.

Alicia
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