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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Anvil arms??? (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 1/13/2009 1:47:06 PM EDT
| hey all was going to order something from them but the way you have to order is kinda sketchy anyone have expirence with them? |
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I assume that you are referring to the part where you include your CC info in the email.
I know people that have done it and all was ok. I for one will not send my CC info via email. There are too many things that can go wrong there. It is not a secure method of sending financial information. I have an Anvil upper and lower and can't say anything but good things about the quality of work and parts. I ordered my stuff long before the election and you could just call them on the phone and place an order. Right now they are very overloaded as most dealers are...but due to the high demand of Anvil's parts....it may take you awhile to get anything from them including an answer to an email. |
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Jon is a great guy to deal with. It is a small op, but they do fantastic work. Anvil Arms is one of the small good guys that deserves the business. I ordered 17 lowers just before the election. All were custom engraved. Jon went above and beyond to get my order to me and extra measures to make sure it was correct. |
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I heard all the same good info about AA posted here, so I placed an order back in Nov. I have been waiting for 2 months. Have been told that it should ship in Jan, but don't have it yet. I had a memo emailed to me by Anvil where Jon said that they were filling orders based strictly upon when the order was placed and that the sooner you place the order the sooner you will "get in line". A policy change that was just posted on their website within the past few days now says: "For those that prefer to have their lower receiver immediately we have a small reserve supply available at the normal retail price of $175 and can ship immediately." Bottom line is that they changed their policy and have these in stock but instead of filling the orders that they have had on their books for months as they said they were going to, they are selling them to the higher bidder from this mysterious "reserve. This is not a good way to operate a business. I was really pissed when I saw this and have sent an email to AA asking for an explantion. |
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Orderd 2 lowers in early November for December delivery. Their prices went up 3 days after the order. They did not increase the prie of my order and ate the difference. They delivered the lowers at a gun show 1 month later, consecutive serial numbers and all.
Would buy again in a heartbeat. |
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I heard all the same good info about AA posted here, so I placed an order back in Nov. I have been waiting for 2 months. Have been told that it should ship in Jan, but don't have it yet. I had a memo emailed to me by Anvil where Jon said that they were filling orders based strictly upon when the order was placed and that the sooner you place the order the sooner you will "get in line". A policy change that was just posted on their website within the past few days now says: "For those that prefer to have their lower receiver immediately we have a small reserve supply available at the normal retail price of $175 and can ship immediately." Bottom line is that they changed their policy and have these in stock but instead of filling the orders that they have had on their books for months as they said they were going to, they are selling them to the higher bidder from this mysterious "reserve. This is not a good way to operate a business. I was really pissed when I saw this and have sent an email to AA asking for an explantion. I'm not sure what kind of explanation you want? If you want the "sale" price of $130 you wait in line, if you want to pay full price you can have it now. |
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Quoted: I'm not sure what kind of explanation you want? If you want the "sale" price of $130 you wait in line, if you want to pay full price you can have it now. First of all I have a confirming order for several lowers @ $100 ea and lpk's @ $50 ea. How soon we forget what lowers really go for. I believe Essential Arms is still selling them for +- $86 ea. I am not going to tell anyone how to run their business, but they have now changed their story after I placed my order. Don't get hung up on sale price vs full price. Their price of $175 is a brand new "gouge you" price which they have never had before. I placed an order for a product at a given price with no strings attached and it would ship when it was my turn. Now they are saying the hell with you and all the other customers who have been patiently waiting for months. Instead AA is filling orders that they receive today because they have someone willing to pay the premium price that they themselves have thrown out there. You don't think this is bad business policy ? |
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I'm not sure what kind of explanation you want? If you want the "sale" price of $130 you wait in line, if you want to pay full price you can have it now. First of all I have a confirming order for several lowers @ $100 ea and lpk's @ $50 ea. How soon we forget what lowers really go for. I believe Essential Arms is still selling them for +- $86 ea. I am not going to tell anyone how to run their business, but they have now changed their story after I placed my order. Don't get hung up on sale price vs full price. Their price of $175 is a brand new "gouge you" price which they have never had before. I placed an order for a product at a given price with no strings attached and it would ship when it was my turn. Now they are saying the hell with you and all the other customers who have been patiently waiting for months. Instead AA is filling orders that they receive today because they have someone willing to pay the premium price that they themselves have thrown out there. You don't think this is bad business policy ? Well, you are incorrect. That $175 has always been "regular" price, I have been a customer of theirs for a couple years now and I see them at every Tampa gun show. They have just always sold them at a "sale" price of $100. That is nothing new. I have 10 on order from the beginning of December, I'm not too worried about it. |
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I heard all the same good info about AA posted here, so I placed an order back in Nov. I have been waiting for 2 months. Have been told that it should ship in Jan, but don't have it yet. I had a memo emailed to me by Anvil where Jon said that they were filling orders based strictly upon when the order was placed and that the sooner you place the order the sooner you will "get in line". A policy change that was just posted on their website within the past few days now says: "For those that prefer to have their lower receiver immediately we have a small reserve supply available at the normal retail price of $175 and can ship immediately." Bottom line is that they changed their policy and have these in stock but instead of filling the orders that they have had on their books for months as they said they were going to, they are selling them to the higher bidder from this mysterious "reserve. This is not a good way to operate a business. I was really pissed when I saw this and have sent an email to AA asking for an explantion. That is BS...I don't know the details, but if what you said is true....Jon has finally gone off the deep end. I don't care what anybody says: You take care of your current orders first!!! |
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I think some of you are confused. It is my understanding that out of every batch Jon receives he takes a percentage of the receivers to sell at the "normal" price for those that immediately want them but still sends the majority to those who are on backorder. He sold lowers he didn't have under the condition of 'first come, first serve'. Now he doles them at as he wants to those who 'come latter, pay more', which screws those who 'came first'. Sending out parts quicker for someone who pays more isn’t a problem, unless you’re bumping someone else to the back of the line to do it. I have an AA lower, it’s a great piece of work, unfortunately it took forever to get. |
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There ordering system is a bit behind the times compared to other sights and to be honest alot of ordering confusion and email issues they were having for a while could have been cleared up if they had a better website ordering system, but one consolation is that the owner of the company is the only one reading the emails and pretty much reviews each order.
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I don't like the idea of emailing a CC number either so I just mailed them a personal check. This is what I did. Be prepared to wait. I got my order confirmed early-mid November and all indications I could be waiting up to March-April. |
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Guys I know everyone knows Jon delivers an excellent product. Place yourself in his shoes. It is basically a family run business. His family has to live and breath that business 24/7. I sure wouldn't want to do that. I pretty sure my family would not enjoy it either. Reading the website and some of the post here, I believe I understand what Jon did. I have been involved in a production enviroment for over 25 years and what he has done is a common. I could call a company up for a certain piece of equipment and get told 3-4 weeks delivery. If you were in a rush they would do rush or emergency service of X amount of dollars more. and I could have it in 24 hours. I would jump to the front of the line ahead of those waiting on normal production. Basically I paid to take the next on available. Jon has made this avaailable to those that don't or can't wait at a very small cost. |
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Anvil probably needs some of those lowers for its regular attendance at the local gunshows. All the backorders have been sold so its just a matter of filling the orders. So Anvil orders extra large size orders of lowers to be completed, giving room to skim some off the top for the gunshows and fill the orders already placed.
I have two Anvils and honestly they are worth waiting for. The finishing work they do to them is easily as good as Noveske. |
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Anvil probably needs some of those lowers for its regular attendance at the local gunshows. All the backorders have been sold so its just a matter of filling the orders. So Anvil orders extra large size orders of lowers to be completed, giving room to skim some off the top for the gunshows and fill the orders already placed. I have two Anvils and honestly they are worth waiting for. The finishing work they do to them is easily as good as Noveske. anvil lowers are as good as you can get, small company means long wait times. but Jon is a stand up gut with a extremely high quality product  
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hey all was going to order something from them but the way you have to order is kinda sketchy anyone have expirence with them? I agree it's weird (but sketchy to me denotes unreliable or possibly fraudulent, which Anvil most,most, most certainly is not) and wish them luck on improving their system in the near future, but I endured it and would do so again to get my grubby paws on their products which I consider very well done. I got my last barrel from them and just every single detail of it is excellent. |
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hey all was going to order something from them but the way you have to order is kinda sketchy anyone have expirence with them? I agree it's weird (but sketchy to me denotes unreliable or possibly fraudulent, which Anvil most,most, most certainly is not) and wish them luck on improving their system in the near future, but I endured it and would do so again to get my grubby paws on their products which I consider very well done. I got my last barrel from them and just every single detail of it is excellent. i got my barrel from them and it is def very nice. they will be getting my business for now own |
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Well, you are incorrect. That $175 has always been "regular" price, I have been a customer of theirs for a couple years now and I see them at every Tampa gun show. They have just always sold them at a "sale" price of $100. That is nothing new. Hopefully that's not correct since that would constitute a violation of Federal Trade Commission guidelines. You cannot "always" sell a product at the sale price. You must be able to demonstrate sales of a substantial amount of product at the regular price over a reasonable period of time. Otherwise you would always buy your carpet and tools at 1/2 off. 
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hey all was going to order something from them but the way you have to order is kinda sketchy anyone have expirence with them? I agree it's weird (but sketchy to me denotes unreliable or possibly fraudulent, which Anvil most,most, most certainly is not) and wish them luck on improving their system in the near future, but I endured it and would do so again to get my grubby paws on their products which I consider very well done. I got my last barrel from them and just every single detail of it is excellent. I got my barrel from them and it is def very nice. They will be getting my business for now own What was the wait time? Do they sell barrels ported for mid-length gas systems? |
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I guess I got lucky, I called up to check on availability of their barrels after facing significant problems getting them elsewhere, and they had them in stock with virtually no wait time, although I think it took a few days for the back and forth of the ordering process. (I only checked with them after other sources because I didn't think they would have had any).
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hey all was going to order something from them but the way you have to order is kinda sketchy anyone have expirence with them? I agree it's weird (but sketchy to me denotes unreliable or possibly fraudulent, which Anvil most,most, most certainly is not) and wish them luck on improving their system in the near future, but I endured it and would do so again to get my grubby paws on their products which I consider very well done. I got my last barrel from them and just every single detail of it is excellent. I got my barrel from them and it is def very nice. They will be getting my business for now own What was the wait time? Do they sell barrels ported for mid-length gas systems? |
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I think some of you are confused. It is my understanding that out of every batch Jon receives he takes a percentage of the receivers to sell at the "normal" price for those that immediately want them but still sends the majority to those who are on backorder. That was what I understood as well. I ordered back in November at the sale price and was told it would be anywhere from late Feb to April sometime before I got them. I don't have the cash for the upper yet anyway so I'm not that worried. |
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I have ordered from them in the pre BHO days and all was fine. I was looking for some more last fall, but I don't like back orders so I passed. I did order some in stock LPKs under the "new" system and it is kind of a PITA. I will under no circumstance send my CC info via email. I just took the order form they sent me and placed my CC info w/ it and faxed it to them. Parts arrived in about a week.
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I have ordered from them in the pre BHO days and all was fine. I was looking for some more last fall, but I don't like back orders so I passed. I did order some in stock LPKs under the "new" system and it is kind of a PITA. I will under no circumstance send my CC info via email. I just took the order form they sent me and placed my CC info w/ it and faxed it to them. Parts arrived in about a week. FB How'd you like the trigger from their LPK? I thought it was a bit rough to say the least. |
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I have ordered from them in the pre BHO days and all was fine. I was looking for some more last fall, but I don't like back orders so I passed. I did order some in stock LPKs under the "new" system and it is kind of a PITA. I will under no circumstance send my CC info via email. I just took the order form they sent me and placed my CC info w/ it and faxed it to them. Parts arrived in about a week. FB How'd you like the trigger from their LPK? I thought it was a bit rough to say the least. Well, I have not used the LPKs I just received, but the one that came preinstalled on a prior complete Anvil lower that I bought is nice and smooth. That is why I picked up the LPKs. It was one of the nicest pulls I have ever used from an "off the shelf" gun. I hope the kits are the same way. FB |
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I heard all the same good info about AA posted here, so I placed an order back in Nov. I have been waiting for 2 months. Have been told that it should ship in Jan, but don't have it yet. I had a memo emailed to me by Anvil where Jon said that they were filling orders based strictly upon when the order was placed and that the sooner you place the order the sooner you will "get in line". A policy change that was just posted on their website within the past few days now says: "For those that prefer to have their lower receiver immediately we have a small reserve supply available at the normal retail price of $175 and can ship immediately." Bottom line is that they changed their policy and have these in stock but instead of filling the orders that they have had on their books for months as they said they were going to, they are selling them to the higher bidder from this mysterious "reserve. This is not a good way to operate a business. I was really pissed when I saw this and have sent an email to AA asking for an explantion. They have never changed their policy. It has always been the same. It was explained in the "industry" section. Some guys don't want to wait. Some don't have any problem waiting. I ordered three lowers in mid November. Still waiting. It doesn't bother me one bit. They'll get here when they get here. Your mention of them selling to the highest bidder is complete B.S. too. |
| I'll put my vote in for AnvilArms quality and their service is awesome. Jon responds to my emails quickly and he made me an awesome upper and I also ordered a lower from them... absolutely fantastic. Yes I wish I would have ordered from them in October when they had them for $100, instead of $175 but hey I still got my moneys worth. |
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I heard all the same good info about AA posted here, so I placed an order back in Nov. I have been waiting for 2 months. Have been told that it should ship in Jan, but don't have it yet. I had a memo emailed to me by Anvil where Jon said that they were filling orders based strictly upon when the order was placed and that the sooner you place the order the sooner you will "get in line". A policy change that was just posted on their website within the past few days now says: "For those that prefer to have their lower receiver immediately we have a small reserve supply available at the normal retail price of $175 and can ship immediately." Bottom line is that they changed their policy and have these in stock but instead of filling the orders that they have had on their books for months as they said they were going to, they are selling them to the higher bidder from this mysterious "reserve. This is not a good way to operate a business. I was really pissed when I saw this and have sent an email to AA asking for an explantion. They have never changed their policy. It has always been the same. It was explained in the "industry" section. Some guys don't want to wait. Some don't have any problem waiting. I ordered three ten lowers in mid November. Still waiting. It doesn't bother me one bit. They'll get here when they get here. Your mention of them selling to the highest bidder is complete B.S. too. Yep.
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| I didnt go to the trouble to order from them because of all the seemingly bullshit process. I want to add stuff to my cart and check out like a normal online business. I dont have a fax machine and the phone wouldnt go through. They dont have anything that cant be purchased more easily somewhere else. I will say that I have heard only good things about their lowers. These things are just as available elsewhere without that hassle thing. |
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I didnt go to the trouble to order from them because of all the seemingly bullshit process. I want to add stuff to my cart and check out like a normal online business. I dont have a fax machine and the phone wouldnt go through. They dont have anything that cant be purchased more easily somewhere else. I will say that I have heard only good things about their lowers. These things are just as available elsewhere without that hassle thing. All that extra stuff costs money. Would you like them to pass along that cost to you? |
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I didnt go to the trouble to order from them because of all the seemingly bullshit process. I want to add stuff to my cart and check out like a normal online business. I dont have a fax machine and the phone wouldnt go through. They dont have anything that cant be purchased more easily somewhere else. I will say that I have heard only good things about their lowers. These things are just as available elsewhere without that hassle thing.
It was not a difficult thing to do. I called and checked if they had product in stock, just like I do anywhere else. Instead of a online "shopping cart" I e-mailed my info. They had a nice package shipped to me in less than a week when NOBODY else had anything in stock. I built a pistol last year with anvil parts and built a rifle this year during the buying frenzy. They have good stuff. Thank you Anvil Arms. |
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I sent an e-mail order without a CC# and asked Jon to call me for billing info.
When the order was ready...less than 4 weeks later ( complete upper, upper receiver, Beta mag, and assorted parts) he called me for my CC#. Jon's always been good to me. I had a custom logo which took him a while, but he got it done. I did the same with Armalite, e-mailed an order and asked to be contacted with billing info. I don't see what the issue is? Jon is good people, and doing the best he can in this crazy buying spree. Danomite!! |
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