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Posted: 6/20/2006 1:09:12 PM EDT
| A friend of mine has sold me on the ar-15 . i got the chance to fire one while out at the ranch a couple weeks back. I was very impressed by the action and the accuracy of the gun from 100 to 500 yards with no adjustment of the site, put the dot on it pull the trigger. This brings me to my question. can someone point me in the right direction? im looking for an ar-15 with a collapsable stock and can handle an EOtech 511 sight. The one i fired was a bush master w/ a eotech sight, but that is kinda pricy for my first one. All it will be used for is varmint hunting and maybe whitetail up to 200 or 300 yards. So im not even oppsed to used model, providing the condition it is in. ive seen stag, bushmaster, armlite, ect. i just wanted to get the opinion of some experts. |
| I would seriously suggest, not trying to blow you off, to read on here what everyone is saying about their various setups and look at pictures here and then make a decision because you are about to get one million different answers on here. Plus once you get it you will either want to change something or completely change the type of rifle you have to another AR variant and it would be cheaper to buy one first being well informed, and the only way to do that is to just take a few weeks and read. Like I said I am not trying to blow you off but this is, in my opinion, the best way to answer your question. |
I've put over 20 in the freezer that says otherwise, whiteman! here |
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+1 from what i can advise off the hand: A3 (flatop), 16-18in bbl (chrome-lined or SS probably), and maybe a tighter stock than a M4--ABCDR, Stag, LMT are good brands to stick w/.... 5.56, w/ the right loads (win 64gr power points, etc) would be adequate for deer, but at ranges longer than 150yrds, i would prefer something bigger like 6.8spc/6.5gren; h/w, 5.56 is great for varmits  oh, and Welcome to the site! 
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I can give a +1 to that as well. I really changed my rifled around since I bought it. Would have saved the hassle to decide off the bat. |
In Texas there is no problem taking deer with a 5.56... Hell, I would bet that 20X the ammount of deer taken with centefire cartridges are taken with rimfire each year in that state, even tho it is illegal. |
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I would personally suggest... -Buy the upper and lower SEPARATE, thus escaping a hefty 11% "sin tax." -Bushy, Stag, or RRA lower -Magpul M93 carbine stock -tuned RRA 2-stage trigger (Geissele if you have the money) -Bushy, BCM, or CMMG 20" 1/7 gov't profile chrome-lined upper -Flattop (has the rail for optics) -Either 5.56mm or 6.5 Grendel -Scope...Buy once, cry once. -TA31F ACOG -3X mini acog -Trijicon accupoint (3-9x40) -Anything Leupold -Ammo -Black hills 73, 75, or 77 gr. -Hornady TAP 75 gr. All of these are personal preferences, most based on my experience hunting whitetails from 0-200 yds with my AR. Feel free to IM me with questions. |
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I have been reading tons about ar-15's. the point wasnt to use the ar-15 as a deer rifle (my walmart mossberg 270 did fine last season) but if i was out killing raccoons or cayotes and a deer walked up (during deer season) i wanted to take a neck shot. Neck = instant win. i want it to be versitile. ive called a couple of gun places arround town and talked to some ar-15 vets. i was considering the olympic just for price. but i found its only 100 to 200 cheaper than a bushmaster and a little less accurate. Honest to God what the guy said. so if im going to spend 700 for an olympic used i can spend 875 on a new bushmaster and get what i orginally thought i wanted. soooooooo after a long thought process im off to go get a bushmaster m4-a1. Thanks p.s. i like the EO tech for the ease of use, and hw fast you can acuire a target in it. |
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Well said! heInstant drop, and no loss of meat!! About the rifle. I have a BushMaster, they’re good! But I think you can get, or build, a rifle that is as good, or better, for less!! Check out the "Build it yourself" forum. Building one is not that hard. If you're in the DFW area (or close) I'll be happy to help. Check the "HOMETOWN" forum as well. Pete |
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You hit any animal in the neck with a bullet traveling at 3200 fps its gonna die. Went to cheaperthandirt last night and got a DPMS Panther carbine a2 16''. arround 800.00 new and was very similar to the bushmaster that was 900.00 its a little heavier than i though but i think it will serve me well. going to sight in the EO tech today. on the eotech if to get it zero at 100 yards using a 50 yard range, do you put the bullets an inch above the target like you so with most rifles. or is it zeroed at 50 is zero at 100. |
Two points here: 1) The bullet will only be traveling at 3200fps if you are using military ammo from a 20" barrel AND are at contact distance. 2) WAY too many examples of bullets not hitting anything vital in the neck and just zipping right through.
Zero the rifle at 50yards. That will put the bullet with 2" of the point of aim from near contact distance to about 220yards. |
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A Rock River Elite CAR A4 with Dominator Mount (for EOTech) matches your descriptive request perfectly. Dominator EOTech Mount Elite CAR A4 Legal Transfers has this exact setup for $869. |
No kidding how did this turn into a neck shooting(worst shot you would want to try)unless you hit a two inch target(spine) topic? If you insist upon hunting small deer with your AR get one with a twist that will be compatible with larger bullets! Bob
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