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Posted: 8/14/2010 7:56:38 AM EDT
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And that would be...What model of Aimpoint was used in the Mog.? And is the movie accurate in that account? Also what handle mounts would
have been used....both in real life and the movie??? I have an Aimpoint Comp M now, and indications are that it may be correct for the time period, but I'll let the hive mind get me sorted out here! Thanks. 
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There's a thread for BHD builds in the retro forum.
Current BHD Build Thread your answers lie within. |
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The Aimpoint 3000 was introduced in 1989, and the Aimpoint 5000 in 1991. Either one could be considered correct for a BHD-era build. The two models also look very similar.
ETA: Regarding mounts, although the MIL-STD-1913 rail was not standardized until 1995, the dovetail dimensions were developed in the early 80s and the ARMS #2 carry handle mount was introduced in 1984, with what we call today a Weaver rail interface (non-standardized cross slot spacing). The standardized cross slots that eventually became the Picatinny rail came about in the early 90s. You can buy new ARMS #2 mounts made to Picatinny rail specifications from many vendors. The early Weaver rail versions of the ARMS #2 mount also come up from time to time on the EE or GB. Pictures from the period also show other mounts of unknown make besides the ARMS #2. ETA more: I recently purchased this Aimpoint 5000 with early ARMS #2 mount from a seller on another board. The Aimpoint 5000 has an optional tube extension that threads into the back of the sight, plus an optional polarizing filter that threads into the front and can be used to dim the view through the sight and make the dot more visible in extremely bright conditions. Below are some pictures of the sight with and without the accessories and a detail view of the mount. The seller indicated that he had purchased this mount and sight in the early 90s and had them sitting around rarely used since that time. It has a 3 MOA dot; be advised these were also produced with a 10 MOA dinner-plate sized dot as well. 
Here is the other side of the scope if you care to look at it. The Aimpoint 3000 can be distinguished, as in the picture below, by the small vertical flat section at the top of the central body of the scope, whereas the Aimpoint 5000 is rounded all the way to the top edge. 
ETA still more: On NDS-C7B upper receiver. Rear sight not yet installed while I make up my mind. 
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Great pics and explanation Flatdark. Was the 3000 a 1' tube while the 5000 is a 30mm tube?
Also, Smith Enterprises makes a very similar carry handle rail mount for those who wish to spend their money with someone other than ARMS. ETA: and Leupold still sells those same vertical split rings as well, only about $15. |
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Great pics and explanation Flatdark. Was the 3000 a 1' tube while the 5000 is a 30mm tube? Also, Smith Enterprises makes a very similar carry handle rail mount for those who wish to spend their money with someone other than ARMS. ETA: and Leupold still sells those same vertical split rings as well, only about $15. Good question about the tube diameter; I had not thought of that. The 5000 is a 30mm tube. A quick look at Aimpoint's website confirms that the 3000 was a 1" tube. Good point re: Smith Enterprise. Do you think Dick Swan will sue me for using numbers in my forum posts?
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Great pics and explanation Flatdark. Was the 3000 a 1' tube while the 5000 is a 30mm tube? Also, Smith Enterprises makes a very similar carry handle rail mount for those who wish to spend their money with someone other than ARMS. ETA: and Leupold still sells those same vertical split rings as well, only about $15. Good question about the tube diameter; I had not thought of that. The 5000 is a 30mm tube. A quick look at Aimpoint's website confirms that the 3000 was a 1" tube. Good point re: Smith Enterprise. Do you think Dick Swan will sue me for using numbers in my forum posts? Don't put your skivvies on backwards.
Ahh, and a link to the rings: http://www.leupold.com/hunting-and-shooting/products/mounting-systems-and-accessories/mounting-systems/rifleman-mounts |
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The original M68, the Aimpoint CompM-XD, came with a mount that positioned the sight out over the handguards. Not knowing the potential "collector value" of this mount I changed mine out long ago for a more robust ARMS mount as shown below. Both the issue and ARMS mounts place the sight directly in the path of the iron sights and the dot is merely moved to the tip of the front sight to zero it.
The M68 has been thru three or four generations all with NSN 1240-01-411-1265. The original M68 NSN included the sight, quick release (click) mount, and forward rain mount. Later versions came with the "M4 spacer" for the mount. Putting the sight as far from the eye as possible makes target transition easier. Original M68 on my old, handled M4 carbine (top). S&W M&P15-22 set up the same was as a 3¢/round trainer. 
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