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Posted: 4/14/2003 10:11:47 AM EDT
| Where can I buy the BLACK extractor spring insert ? |
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Quoted: The insert itself, other than color, is identical to the blue insert. The color difference is to indicate that the SPRING that comes with the black insert is stronger. But, even better are the Wolff springs. Get a couple of those, and you're all set. -Troy |
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This is what it says on the Wolf web site: EXTRACTOR SPRINGS - Extra Power These very strong extractor springs eliminate the extraction problems which are very common in M4 models used extensively in law enforcement. Springs should be used in combination with the new BLACK extractor spring insert available from Colt. Springs also recommended for the M-16, AR-15 & Sporters. Springs are unground and we do not recommend grinding them. So where do you get them ? |
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Quoted: This is what it says on the Wolf web site: EXTRACTOR SPRINGS - Extra Power These very strong extractor springs eliminate the extraction problems which are very common in M4 models used extensively in law enforcement. Springs should be used in combination with the new BLACK extractor spring insert available from Colt. Springs also recommended for the M-16, AR-15 & Sporters. Springs are unground and we do not recommend grinding them. So where do you get them ? Wolff has admitted this is a misprint on their web site and plan to correct it. Give them a call if you want to verify this. Troy is correct the black insert is just for spring ID purposes. If you really want the black inser I believe the only way to get them is to order the extra power springs from a Colt dealer. |
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Quoted: This is what it says on the Wolf web site: EXTRACTOR SPRINGS - Extra Power These very strong extractor springs eliminate the extraction problems which are very common in M4 models used extensively in law enforcement. Springs should be used in combination with the new BLACK extractor spring insert available from Colt. Springs also recommended for the M-16, AR-15 & Sporters. Springs are unground and we do not recommend grinding them. So where do you get them ? Wolff is as wrong about the inserts as you are. I have e mailed them twice about changing the message, but I guess they're too lazy; or, if they don't believe me, are too hard headed to pick up the phone, like I did, and call Colt to ask them. Re the "as issued" recall on M16s with blue inserts; that's riiiight----that's why the hell they pack the black inserts with the stonger springs---so they know which as issued pieces NEED THE NEW SPRINGS. DUUUH. Bust your hump for the black inserts if you want to. Whatever makes you happy[:D] |
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Dude, c'mon, everyone knows that black plastic is waaaaaay better than blue plastic. I pity all of you who have the inferior blue inserts! Hahahahaha [rofl2] In all seriousness, the inserts themselves are the same. The color difference is only to ID the stronger spring is being used. |
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Quoted: Dude, c'mon, everyone knows that black plastic is waaaaaay better than blue plastic. I pity all of you who have the inferior blue inserts! Hahahahaha Yeah what he said! The black ones are the TACTICAL version. If you have to ask how to get one then you're not HIGHSPEED enough to own one... [rofl2][rofl2][rofl2] |
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Quoted: " If you have to ask how to get one then you're not HIGHSPEED enough to own one... " That is where you are wrong. Owning one, MAKES you highspeed. Owning 50, is supersonic. My bad, you're totally correct. With the gear come the skills, with the gear come the skills... Come on now repeat after me![rofl2] |
| Now we are talking about skills. Before you were talking about speed. Speed comes with extractor inserts. I am not sure if the skills come with a small part like an extractor insert, although for a few of the gifted they might. For most of us mere mortals, we need a bigger part for the skills. A flashlight, or maybe even a vertical foregrip will usually do it. Of course we all know that the real path to success is a pre-ban rifle. There is no shorter route to skills than having a bayonet lug and a real honest to god flash suppressor. But then you knew that, it is a given. |
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Listen, I'm old enough that my first AR had a WHITE insert, which was indeed softer than the blue one; and the reason that the blue one was made blue in the first place[:D] It may also be at least part of the reason that when Colt changed the color again, we all thought that the color change to black meant a still stiffer insert. I know I did. When I found out that the parts supplier wanted a $50 minimum order is why I called Colt in the first place; to find out if I could get it directly from them or some other supplier---and that's when I got the info about the black and blue being the same[:D] Glad to read that Wolff Springs did finally get the message that the inserts are the same. I was beginning to wonder. |
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