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1/13/2009 6:48:59 PM EDT
About how far would a 16" govt. profile barrel flex in a free-floating system perpindicular to the bore axis (up and down) at the muzzle during and after the firing of a round?

TIA for any info if anyone knows.

Would like to know how much clearance I need for my gas-block inside my FF tube.
1/14/2009 6:35:08 PM EDT
[#1]
You mean "barrel whip"?  I don't know but it probably would be quite a bit more than a HBAR.  For that reason, I don't think I'd want to free float a gov't profile barrel.  I think the OEM HGs would tend to dampen the vibration on a gov't profile barrel but that's just my theory.
1/14/2009 6:43:42 PM EDT
[#2]
Its negligible.
1/14/2009 6:44:37 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
You mean "barrel whip"?  I don't know but it probably would be quite a bit more than a HBAR.  For that reason, I don't think I'd want to free float a gov't profile barrel.  I think the OEM HGs would tend to dampen the vibration on a gov't profile barrel but that's just my theory.


oem handguards would add stresses to a govt barrel, just as they would a bull barrel. they dont actually bend the barrel or anything, they just vibrate in a non-uniform matter, which will affect any barrel.

I dont think you will need much clearance at all, but I would be more concerned with venting heat away from the barrel. you need some empty space around the barrel to do this, while the flexing of the barrel is likely fractions of a milimeter.
1/14/2009 6:49:01 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Its negligible.


This is correct.  I have freefloated a LW barrel - whip is just not an issue.


1/14/2009 6:55:39 PM EDT
[#5]


Quoted:


Its negligible.


but it sure looks wild in slow motion.



 
1/14/2009 9:42:51 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Its negligible.

but it sure looks wild in slow motion.
 


that's a vid I would like to see.
1/14/2009 10:02:39 PM EDT
[#7]
sorta like this ?   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6BpI3xD6h0&feature=related
1/14/2009 10:12:45 PM EDT
[#8]
Barrel flex is a serious accuracy problem.  I just went through the calculation for 2 WOA uppers.  Try the Lilja barrel site for information and programs http://www.riflebarrels.com/products/software.htm.

Phil
1/15/2009 12:47:40 AM EDT
[#9]
Its negligible as far as your barrel, gas block, and handguard are concerned.  A low profile gas block should fit under any major railed handguard with no problems.
1/15/2009 4:08:37 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Its negligible as far as your barrel, gas block, and handguard are concerned.  A low profile gas block should fit under any major railed handguard with no problems.


I agree.

BTW, I have a free-floated gov't profile barrel that shoots my handloads into 1"-1.5" groups (10 shots).

It's more accurate/consistent now than it ever was with A2 HGs or the KAC M5 RAS that was on it. It now sports a FF RAS.

-Dan
1/15/2009 6:18:14 AM EDT
[#11]
I'm curouis as to what you all see when torquing the muzzle end holding on to the receiver itself, observing the barrel movement in relation to a freef floated handguard. My 16" Sabre middy moves quite a bit. It has the early gov't profile (thin before FSB) rather than the current profile.
1/15/2009 6:23:46 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Its negligible.


This is correct.  I have freefloated a LW barrel - whip is just not an issue.




MY M&P 15T has a rather large gas block under the rail and barrel whip doesn't seem to cause any contact that I can see.

1/15/2009 6:24:36 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Its negligible.

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