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8/3/2010 3:17:19 PM EDT
Initial video, more to follow

http://vuurwapenblog.com/2010/08/03/a2-vs-battle-comp-initial-comparison-video/
8/3/2010 3:28:02 PM EDT
[#1]
What were your overall impressions of the Battle Comp?
8/3/2010 3:31:17 PM EDT
[#2]
I was very impressed, not only with being able to keep the ACOG chevron on target at 200m through the entire recoil cycle, but with the amount of noise and blast when I stood nearby as other shooters fired the weapon.
8/3/2010 3:37:20 PM EDT
[#3]
Good info, thanks 87.
8/3/2010 4:04:27 PM EDT
[#4]
Any plans to try the BC on your SR556?
8/3/2010 4:44:48 PM EDT
[#5]
Very Nice, but what happened to the video?
8/3/2010 4:48:36 PM EDT
[#6]
It's still there......
8/3/2010 4:50:14 PM EDT
[#7]
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It's still there......


I mean the resolution
8/3/2010 4:52:05 PM EDT
[#8]
Nice work as usual!

8/3/2010 4:54:39 PM EDT
[#9]
Is it just me, or did I actually see the muzzle dip ever-so-slightly when firing with the BattleComp?
8/3/2010 4:56:31 PM EDT
[#10]
Am I the only one that hears the cartridge ignition and slide motion of the Matrix's slow motion killing of Neo scene ?
8/3/2010 4:56:31 PM EDT
[#11]



Quoted:


Is it just me, or did I actually see the muzzle dip ever-so-slightly when firing with the BattleComp?


That's the barrel oscillating like a wet spaghetti noodle.



 
8/3/2010 5:19:56 PM EDT
[#12]
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Is it just me, or did I actually see the muzzle dip ever-so-slightly when firing with the BattleComp?

That's the barrel oscillating like a wet spaghetti noodle.
 


I actually think it's the entire rifle moving and my body is oscillating like a wet spaghetti noodle

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It's still there......


I mean the resolution


I can do HD video, but not at 1000 frames per second.
8/3/2010 5:27:08 PM EDT
[#13]
The walls of my battlecomp seem pretty thin.



Do you plan on doing a high round-count/high heat test?



I want to see if the thing will warp.
8/3/2010 5:28:43 PM EDT
[#14]
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The walls of my battlecomp seem pretty thin.

Do you plan on doing a high round-count/high heat test?

I want to see if the thing will warp.


I can probably do that, but it's not "mine," so I'll have to ask before I attempt to melt it.


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Any plans to try the BC on your SR556?


I'll try, the Ruger is semi-promised to someone, so I don't want to damage the stock muzzle device during removal/reinstallation.
8/3/2010 5:31:29 PM EDT
[#15]
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Is it just me, or did I actually see the muzzle dip ever-so-slightly when firing with the BattleComp?

That's the barrel oscillating like a wet spaghetti noodle.
 


I actually think it's the entire rifle moving and my body is oscillating like a wet spaghetti noodle

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It's still there......


I mean the resolution


I can do HD video, but not at 1000 frames per second.


The buffer test seemed at a much higher resolution. Ok never mind, I just looked, you were just close up!
8/3/2010 8:16:54 PM EDT
[#16]
Impressive......now I just need AAC to team together with them to build a battlecomp mount for my M4-2000!
8/3/2010 8:54:05 PM EDT
[#17]
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Impressive......now I just need AAC to team together with them to build a battlecomp mount for my M4-2000!


AAC is fairly friendly with KAC, so I doubt they will rip off their design to make one for an AAC silencer.
8/4/2010 4:35:11 AM EDT
[#18]
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Impressive......now I just need AAC to team together with them to build a battlecomp mount for my M4-2000!


AAC is fairly friendly with KAC, so I doubt they will rip off their design to make one for an AAC silencer.


Are you saying the Battlecomp is a KAC rip off? If so in what way other then concept?

I have to admit, the Battlecomp seems appealing but I'm having a hard time with the benefit vs. cost ratio?
8/4/2010 4:42:45 AM EDT
[#19]





It seemed like there were less violent barrel harmonics in the BattleComp.  Same ammo, I presume?
 
8/4/2010 5:31:35 AM EDT
[#20]
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Impressive......now I just need AAC to team together with them to build a battlecomp mount for my M4-2000!


AAC is fairly friendly with KAC, so I doubt they will rip off their design to make one for an AAC silencer.


Are you saying the Battlecomp is a KAC rip off? If so in what way other then concept?

I have to admit, the Battlecomp seems appealing but I'm having a hard time with the benefit vs. cost ratio?


Designs are very similar and they seem to be marketed along that line.  I don't have a problem with it, the VIAS brakes for rifles have been on market for 25+ yrs with the same basic design, a brake with a void space, smaller vents, and some venting out the front.  They have the rep the Battlecomp does, brake is not as good as others in recoil reduction, but more friendly in flash and noise.

8/4/2010 5:50:03 AM EDT
[#21]
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What were your overall impressions of the Battle Comp?


I have one.  It flat out works.  For those that think $150 is a big chunk of change, you clearly haven't fired a round through a BC 1.0.  Rarely do you find anything for sale that DOES exactly what the marketing says it will.  There are two "gadgets" I think every AR should have.  1) Magpul B.A.D. Lever and 2) BattleComp 1.0 They are both game changers.  

My advice is to buy one, shoot one, and love one...if you somehow dislike it, you can always sell it for a minimal loss.  

Note:  I have no affiliation with BattleComp Enterprises LLC.  Just a very satisfied customer.
8/4/2010 6:38:17 AM EDT
[#22]
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What were your overall impressions of the Battle Comp?


I have one.  It flat out works.  For those that think $150 is a big chunk of change, you clearly haven't fired a round through a BC 1.0.  Rarely do you find anything for sale that DOES exactly what the marketing says it will.  There are two "gadgets" I think every AR should have.  1) Magpul B.A.D. Lever and 2) BattleComp 1.0 They are both game changers.  

My advice is to buy one, shoot one, and love one...if you somehow dislike it, you can always sell it for a minimal loss.  

Note:  I have no affiliation with BattleComp Enterprises LLC.  Just a very satisfied customer.


What if we're lefties?
8/4/2010 6:43:08 AM EDT
[#23]
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What were your overall impressions of the Battle Comp?


I have one.  It flat out works.  For those that think $150 is a big chunk of change, you clearly haven't fired a round through a BC 1.0.  Rarely do you find anything for sale that DOES exactly what the marketing says it will.  There are two "gadgets" I think every AR should have.  1) Magpul B.A.D. Lever and 2) BattleComp 1.0 They are both game changers.  

My advice is to buy one, shoot one, and love one...if you somehow dislike it, you can always sell it for a minimal loss.  

Note:  I have no affiliation with BattleComp Enterprises LLC.  Just a very satisfied customer.


What if we're lefties?


I'm a lefty and I find the Magpul BAD lever to be very beneficial for reloads and clearing malfunctions.

8/4/2010 7:37:38 AM EDT
[#24]
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What were your overall impressions of the Battle Comp?


I have one.  It flat out works.  For those that think $150 is a big chunk of change, you clearly haven't fired a round through a BC 1.0.  Rarely do you find anything for sale that DOES exactly what the marketing says it will.  There are two "gadgets" I think every AR should have.  1) Magpul B.A.D. Lever and 2) BattleComp 1.0 They are both game changers.  

My advice is to buy one, shoot one, and love one...if you somehow dislike it, you can always sell it for a minimal loss.  

Note:  I have no affiliation with BattleComp Enterprises LLC.  Just a very satisfied customer.


What if we're lefties?


I shoot lefty and the BAD lever works very well.   It's the best solution I've found to dropping the bolt on a fresh mag (and I've tried a whole bunch of techniques and components).  Locking the bolt back for malf drills is easy as pie too.
8/4/2010 8:26:27 AM EDT
[#25]
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What were your overall impressions of the Battle Comp?


I have one.  It flat out works.  For those that think $150 is a big chunk of change, you clearly haven't fired a round through a BC 1.0.  Rarely do you find anything for sale that DOES exactly what the marketing says it will.  There are two "gadgets" I think every AR should have.  1) Magpul B.A.D. Lever and 2) BattleComp 1.0 They are both game changers.  

My advice is to buy one, shoot one, and love one...if you somehow dislike it, you can always sell it for a minimal loss.  

Note:  I have no affiliation with BattleComp Enterprises LLC.  Just a very satisfied customer.


What if we're lefties?


I put a post up about this a while ago but a lefty with ambi-switches and a BAD has the potential to be faster at reloads and clearance drills than a righty because on a double feed you can strip the mag and use your right hand to clear the jam.  On lock back reloads, practice dropping the bolt after you insert the fresh mag by pushing the BAD with your right thumb, makes it one smooth motion...
8/4/2010 8:55:39 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
I was very impressed, not only with being able to keep the ACOG chevron on target at 200m through the entire recoil cycle, but with the amount of noise and blast when I stood nearby as other shooters fired the weapon.


i have been looking at buying this comp versus some others..and it seems like comps are inherently louder ( and more concussion) by design...my goal is to find one that works decent and offer the least amount of impact/concussion and loudness.
how does the loudness compare with standard A2 FH, since this is usually standard on most ar's and a good baseline to compare with?
8/4/2010 8:56:56 AM EDT
[#27]
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Is it just me, or did I actually see the muzzle dip ever-so-slightly when firing with the BattleComp?

That's the barrel oscillating like a wet spaghetti noodle.
 


I actually think it's the entire rifle moving and my body is oscillating like a wet spaghetti noodle


It's the rifle that is oscillating.  Watch the first shots with the A2 and focus on the butt stock and your shoulder.  The stock oscillates up and down and then moves back into your shoulder damping the vibration.

8/4/2010 9:06:00 AM EDT
[#28]
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Is it just me, or did I actually see the muzzle dip ever-so-slightly when firing with the BattleComp?

That's the barrel oscillating like a wet spaghetti noodle.
 


I actually think it's the entire rifle moving and my body is oscillating like a wet spaghetti noodle


It's the rifle that is oscillating.  Watch the first shots with the A2 and focus on the butt stock and your shoulder.  The stock oscillates up and down and then moves back into your shoulder damping the vibration.



My point was that the movement was not isolated to the barrel.
8/4/2010 9:42:45 AM EDT
[#29]
i have been looking at buying this comp versus some others..and it seems like comps are inherently louder ( and more concussion) by design...my goal is to find one that works decent and offer the least amount of impact/concussion and loudness.
how does the loudness compare with standard A2 FH, since this is usually standard on most ar's and a good baseline to compare with?


The key feature of the BattleComp is not the recoil reduction.  They fully admit if that is your only concern there are other comps on the market that do this.

From their website:

The BattleComp gives the tactical operator excellent control WITHOUT the excessive concussion and crushing blast produced by most compensators on the market –– with flash comparable to an A2 –– and all in an A2-sized package.

8/4/2010 9:55:17 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
i have been looking at buying this comp versus some others..and it seems like comps are inherently louder ( and more concussion) by design...my goal is to find one that works decent and offer the least amount of impact/concussion and loudness.
how does the loudness compare with standard A2 FH, since this is usually standard on most ar's and a good baseline to compare with?


The key feature of the BattleComp is not the recoil reduction.  They fully admit if that is your only concern there are other comps on the market that do this.

From their website:

The BattleComp gives the tactical operator excellent control WITHOUT the excessive concussion and crushing blast produced by most compensators on the market –– with flash comparable to an A2 –– and all in an A2-sized package.




Yeah it is tough to describe...recoil is still there, but to me, it "seems" slightly less and it is ALL directed straight back into your body in a quick thump, while your site never moves.  It is a wonder product, that I would have probably paid $250 for.  I use it every time I squeeze the trigger.  Worth it to me.  
8/4/2010 10:09:24 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
i have been looking at buying this comp versus some others..and it seems like comps are inherently louder ( and more concussion) by design...my goal is to find one that works decent and offer the least amount of impact/concussion and loudness.
how does the loudness compare with standard A2 FH, since this is usually standard on most ar's and a good baseline to compare with?


The key feature of the BattleComp is not the recoil reduction.  They fully admit if that is your only concern there are other comps on the market that do this.

From their website:

The BattleComp gives the tactical operator excellent control WITHOUT the excessive concussion and crushing blast produced by most compensators on the market –– with flash comparable to an A2 –– and all in an A2-sized package.



i should have made myself more clear..and i thought i did that in my initial post.  i know all comps reduce recoil, and the amount varies from one to the next.  most comps, by design, will be louder with increased concussion.  
from what i gather about the battlecomp, it seems the least amount of blast (loudness) and concussion compared to other units, and offer recoil reduction vertically (reduced muzzle rise), although felt recoil appears to be redirected straight back into the shoulder, which is fine with me.  does this sound about right?  I saw the post about the special on the rainier xtc for $50, and hear good things..but i think that unit has more concussion and blast than battlecomp??
8/4/2010 10:33:00 AM EDT
[#32]
I'd be curious how durable the battlecomp is. I have the vltor now but am becoming more and more interested in switching out for a compensator.
8/4/2010 10:38:30 AM EDT
[#33]
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I'd be curious how durable the battlecomp is. I have the vltor now but am becoming more and more interested in switching out for a compensator.


I just picked up a VC-1 that I'll also test.
8/4/2010 3:57:08 PM EDT
[#34]
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I'd be curious how durable the battlecomp is. I have the vltor now but am becoming more and more interested in switching out for a compensator.


I just picked up a VC-1 that I'll also test.


The VC-1 seems to eliminate flash as advertised.
8/4/2010 4:19:11 PM EDT
[#35]
I have a Battlecomp BABC on my 6.8 and it works really well for me. As far as recoil reduction it seems as effective as my PWS.  The blast and concussion are defiantely less than the PWS.  I will be installing my Battlecomp 1.0 on my 5.56 this week and hopefully test it this weekend.
8/4/2010 7:22:58 PM EDT
[#36]
We've run several hunndred rounds in rapid sucession on full auto through the Battle Comp and not even a hiccup.  No change in finish from the heat and definately no distrotion.  You are correct in that recoil is still present, although much less and directly back towards the shooter.  Again, the main advantage over other comps is the benefit to the guys next to you.  The 1 handed video on full auto on their website (last video I believe) was the last run of the day after about 600 rds.  I was filming that about 7 feet away.
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