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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Best QD scope mount (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 6/23/2015 12:16:58 PM EDT
| Looking for a QD scope mount for my AR. I recently decided to sell my savage precision rifle and hang on to the Nikon scope I have. I figured I would mount it on my 16" AR and use it for 100-200yd shooting. I don't want the mount to break the bank but I would like something reliable. I have gg&g QD mount for my eotech and it seems to return to zero everytime I re-mount it. Any suggestions? |
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Recoil magazine did a write up and tested the mounts. It was nice to see legit results get published. I don't have that issue, but I'm sure soemone does who can snap a picture and post it.
It would be nice if Trijicon released the results of their destructive and nondestructive testing. My understanding is that the second place mount was a very distant second place. |
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I am having a difficult time making a decision on a qd mount myself. im in between a Bobro and Larue. Bobro doesn't have someone posting nonsense on the forums so that should make my decision slightly easier. Performance of the mount, not the owner of the company, should be a factor. Using the owner as an excuse makes you no different from the owner. |
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Quoted: Performance of the mount, not the owner of the company, should be a factor. Using the owner as an excuse makes you no different from the owner. Quoted: Quoted: I am having a difficult time making a decision on a qd mount myself. im in between a Bobro and Larue. Bobro doesn't have someone posting nonsense on the forums so that should make my decision slightly easier. Performance of the mount, not the owner of the company, should be a factor. Using the owner as an excuse makes you no different from the owner. |
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That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. No one made TurbineGuy arbiter of the universe. Quoted:
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I am having a difficult time making a decision on a qd mount myself. im in between a Bobro and Larue. Bobro doesn't have someone posting nonsense on the forums so that should make my decision slightly easier. Performance of the mount, not the owner of the company, should be a factor. Using the owner as an excuse makes you no different from the owner. I just pointed out your flawed rationalization when trying to choose a mount. I'm sorry your feelings got hurt so easily. |
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LaRue all the way.
Have owned/used many ADM mounts. Never cared for them much. They feel cheap to me. Recently purchased a Bobro mount as well due to all the high praise I had heard about them. Well, that Bobro mount has already been replaced with a LaRue, and will be going on the EE shortly. |
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Recoil magazine did a write up and tested the mounts. It was nice to see legit results get published. I don't have that issue, but I'm sure soemone does who can snap a picture and post it. It would be nice if Trijicon released the results of their destructive and nondestructive testing. My understanding is that the second place mount was a very distant second place. Who came in first? |
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I just pointed out your flawed rationalization when trying to choose a mount. I'm not sorry your feelings got hurt so easily. Quoted:
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I am having a difficult time making a decision on a qd mount myself. im in between a Bobro and Larue. Bobro doesn't have someone posting nonsense on the forums so that should make my decision slightly easier. Performance of the mount, not the owner of the company, should be a factor. Using the owner as an excuse makes you no different from the owner. I just pointed out your flawed rationalization when trying to choose a mount. I'm not sorry your feelings got hurt so easily. Don't worry, I fixed it for you. 
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I don't care which vendors visit this site and post frequently on subjects or views that may bother someone one way or the other. That has nothing to do with the quality of the product, which should speak for itself. Frankly, I find it inappropriate to inject such issues into a technical discussion.
I have two LaRue QD mounts, an LT-104 1.5 SPR and a LT-135 1.93 SPR, and a ring half platform for a micro reflex, LT-137. That is all. I have several different ADM mounts, both for scopes and red dots, and for vertical grips. That is all. Thus, my base of knowledge is limited, but is not driven by anything other than performance. I also have Talley QD bases and rings for bolt guns. A huge number of them, perhaps a dozen. It is from my experience with a lot of very accurate Talley QD mounts on bolt guns that I draw in making comparisons. I find that ALL of these various mounts are well within one half MOA and usually beyond the accuracy potential of the rifle to discriminate any more precisely. I have not purchased Bobro, so I can neither approve nor condemn, but it certainly enjoys a good reputation here, along with LaRue and ADM. Talley is hugely popular for custom high end bolt guns and deserves its reputation for light weight steel QD mounts for such applications. I cannot speak to how rugged the mounts may be under extreme duty conditions. I leave that to others. Make your choice on features from among them, not on opinions of the manufacturers on collateral issues.. Once, again, this is a technical forum. |
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Quoted: LaRue all the way. Have owned/used many ADM mounts. Never cared for them much. They feel cheap to me. Recently purchased a Bobro mount as well due to all the high praise I had heard about them. Well, that Bobro mount has already been replaced with a LaRue, and will be going on the EE shortly. What do you dislike about the BOBRO? |
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Just another keyboard commando taking a steamy dump in one more thread. Thanks for that. Good luck OP Quoted:
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I just pointed out your flawed rationalization when trying to choose a mount. I'm sorry your feelings got hurt so easily. Good luck OP Nothing was wrong until YOU mentioned the drama. Do you need a child to explain that to you? |
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LaRue all the way. Have owned/used many ADM mounts. Never cared for them much. They feel cheap to me. Recently purchased a Bobro mount as well due to all the high praise I had heard about them. Well, that Bobro mount has already been replaced with a LaRue, and will be going on the EE shortly. What do you dislike about the BOBRO? Don't care for the QD lever. Also just doesn't "feel" right to me as well. Mind you, it's not a cheap feeling like how I find ADM mounts - the Bobro mounts seem to be quality and well made. It just doesn't feel as strong and secure as a LaRue mount. I realize that may all be mental, but I've run LaRue mounts through the ringer for several years now, and they've been bulletproof. The Bobro mount just didn't do it for me in comparison. Mind you, I'm sure that either of the three QD mounts I've referenced will serve most people very well. I just have the most confidence in LaRue mounts. |
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Just put a Larue LT-104 on a 16". I know everyone and their brother has one, but it doesn't make me any less impressed. Zero regrets. Same here. My scope comes off every range trip, and still stays zero'd every time. I also have an Aimpoint Micro mounted on one of their mounts. Great gear. |
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While zero shift is important (to an extent), it's far from the only factor for a quality mount. That article says little to me other than that most of the reputable QD mounts have small repeatable zero shifts. That's exactly the point of the graph. If you're getting a QD mount, it needs to be repeatable. |
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That's exactly the point of the graph. If you're getting a QD mount, it needs to be repeatable. Quoted:
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While zero shift is important (to an extent), it's far from the only factor for a quality mount. That article says little to me other than that most of the reputable QD mounts have small repeatable zero shifts. That's exactly the point of the graph. If you're getting a QD mount, it needs to be repeatable. Yeah. I get that. I just think we've all long known that the most reputable QD mounts have sub MOA repeatable zeros. I'd be more interested to hear a comparison test like the one Stick referenced that Trijicon conducted - one pertaining to durability. I already knew all these mounts had minimal zero shifts. Which mounts can take the most abuse? Which QD levers hold up the best? Etc? That's what I'd be more interested to see. |
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I didn't like the bottom access when tightening the rings on the original Bobro mounts. Now that they changed to top access, the only negative is lack of products. Larue makes a mount for everything, and is good quality, but I will pay the little bit more if there's a Bobro option. For little things like flashlight mounts and bipod adapters, I like ADM because they are cheaper, and don't mar up the rail like larue does.
I will admit a certain gentleman who shits on every thread makes me want to buy Larue less, but not enough to avoid a product when there isn't something of equal or better quality available. I did take the stickers off my truck a few years ago though... 
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Yeah. I get that. I just think we've all long known that the most reputable QD mounts have sub MOA repeatable zeros. I'd be more interested to hear a comparison test like the one Stick referenced that Trijicon conducted - one pertaining to durability. I already knew all these mounts had minimal zero shifts. Which mounts can take the most abuse? Which QD levers hold up the best? Etc? That's what I'd be more interested to see. Quoted:
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While zero shift is important (to an extent), it's far from the only factor for a quality mount. That article says little to me other than that most of the reputable QD mounts have small repeatable zero shifts. That's exactly the point of the graph. If you're getting a QD mount, it needs to be repeatable. Yeah. I get that. I just think we've all long known that the most reputable QD mounts have sub MOA repeatable zeros. I'd be more interested to hear a comparison test like the one Stick referenced that Trijicon conducted - one pertaining to durability. I already knew all these mounts had minimal zero shifts. Which mounts can take the most abuse? Which QD levers hold up the best? Etc? That's what I'd be more interested to see. This data to me, is reflected in who Trijicon uses for their brands mounts. Bobro. |
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This data to me, is reflected in who Trijicon uses for their brands mounts. Bobro. Quoted:
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While zero shift is important (to an extent), it's far from the only factor for a quality mount. That article says little to me other than that most of the reputable QD mounts have small repeatable zero shifts. That's exactly the point of the graph. If you're getting a QD mount, it needs to be repeatable. Yeah. I get that. I just think we've all long known that the most reputable QD mounts have sub MOA repeatable zeros. I'd be more interested to hear a comparison test like the one Stick referenced that Trijicon conducted - one pertaining to durability. I already knew all these mounts had minimal zero shifts. Which mounts can take the most abuse? Which QD levers hold up the best? Etc? That's what I'd be more interested to see. This data to me, is reflected in who Trijicon uses for their brands mounts. Bobro. Perhaps, but politics are almost always involved in decisions like that as well. The mil went with ARMS mounts, for instance, and well, let's just say...no one is going to be claiming those are the best and most durable QD mounts available... |
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Perhaps, but politics are almost always involved in decisions like that as well. The mil went with ARMS mounts, for instance, and well, let's just say...no one is going to be claiming those are the best and most durable QD mounts available... The USMC went with LaRue mounts for their ACOGs. They got something right. My PVS-27 I was issued had a LaRue mount on it as well. My ARMS rings on my MK12 was something I was not happy about however. |
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I still never understand the talk of LaRue mounts marring rails. I've never experienced this to even the slightest degree. My experience is with dozens of LaRue mounts on dozens of different rifles as well. If you have them adjusted too tight they will dent the underside of an aluminum rail. That being said adjusted correctly I have never had a problem. The only tangible benefit the Bobro has is that it auto adjusts to any rail. The miniscule POI shift difference from the test shouldn't be a deciding factor imo. The Bobro would shine on flashlight, bipod, magnifier, etc. mounts where there is a high likelihood of swapping them between rifles frequently. Optics aren't really a big deal as if you move the optic you will need to re-zero anyway so take the 30 seconds and adjust the Larue mount imo. |
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The USMC went with LaRue mounts for their ACOGs. They got something right. My PVS-27 I was issued had a LaRue mount on it as well. My ARMS rings on my MK12 was something I was not happy about however. Quoted:
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Perhaps, but politics are almost always involved in decisions like that as well. The mil went with ARMS mounts, for instance, and well, let's just say...no one is going to be claiming those are the best and most durable QD mounts available... The USMC went with LaRue mounts for their ACOGs. They got something right. My PVS-27 I was issued had a LaRue mount on it as well. My ARMS rings on my MK12 was something I was not happy about however. My MK12 had a LT104 and a leupy MK8
Every 240 has a two larues on it now, every IAR/SAW as well. |
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If you have them adjusted too tight they will dent the underside of an aluminum rail. That being said adjusted correctly I have never had a problem. Quoted:
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I still never understand the talk of LaRue mounts marring rails. I've never experienced this to even the slightest degree. My experience is with dozens of LaRue mounts on dozens of different rifles as well. If you have them adjusted too tight they will dent the underside of an aluminum rail. That being said adjusted correctly I have never had a problem. Gotta love when people don't follow the instructions, and then blame/accuse the product. These people have gotta be tightening their LaRue mounts down insanely to mar their rails. I tighten mine to a degree where a decent amount of elbow grease needs to be applied to remove them, and I've never seen one even scuff a rail of mine... |
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Gotta love when people don't follow the instructions, and then blame/accuse the product. These people have gotta be tightening their LaRue mounts down insanely to mar their rails. I tighten mine to a degree where a decent amount of elbow grease needs to be applied to remove them, and I've never seen one even scuff a rail of mine... Quoted:
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I still never understand the talk of LaRue mounts marring rails. I've never experienced this to even the slightest degree. My experience is with dozens of LaRue mounts on dozens of different rifles as well. If you have them adjusted too tight they will dent the underside of an aluminum rail. That being said adjusted correctly I have never had a problem. Gotta love when people don't follow the instructions, and then blame/accuse the product. These people have gotta be tightening their LaRue mounts down insanely to mar their rails. I tighten mine to a degree where a decent amount of elbow grease needs to be applied to remove them, and I've never seen one even scuff a rail of mine... So you think a VG where you have to use a tool to adjust your QD every time you want to switch guns is superior to something like Tango Down (ADM) or Bobro. Good grief man, Larue makes nice stuff, I agree, but they're not the "end all-be all" of everything they make. I got rid of my FUG because it's a pain in the ass to constantly adjust, and replaced it with a Tango Down (ADM). OH NO! My brother got a Bobro VG which I actually like even better than Tango down or Larue. OH NO! I just ordered an LT660 for myself for Father's Day. OH NO! |
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So you think a VG where you have to use a tool to adjust your QD every time you want to switch guns is superior to something like Tango Down (ADM) or Bobro. Good grief man, Larue makes nice stuff, I agree, but they're not the "end all-be all" of everything they make. I got rid of my FUG because it's a pain in the ass to constantly adjust, and replaced it with a Tango Down (ADM). OH NO! My brother got a Bobro VG which I actually like even better than Tango down or Larue. OH NO! I just ordered an LT660 for myself for Father's Day. OH NO! Quoted:
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I still never understand the talk of LaRue mounts marring rails. I've never experienced this to even the slightest degree. My experience is with dozens of LaRue mounts on dozens of different rifles as well. If you have them adjusted too tight they will dent the underside of an aluminum rail. That being said adjusted correctly I have never had a problem. Gotta love when people don't follow the instructions, and then blame/accuse the product. These people have gotta be tightening their LaRue mounts down insanely to mar their rails. I tighten mine to a degree where a decent amount of elbow grease needs to be applied to remove them, and I've never seen one even scuff a rail of mine... So you think a VG where you have to use a tool to adjust your QD every time you want to switch guns is superior to something like Tango Down (ADM) or Bobro. Good grief man, Larue makes nice stuff, I agree, but they're not the "end all-be all" of everything they make. I got rid of my FUG because it's a pain in the ass to constantly adjust, and replaced it with a Tango Down (ADM). OH NO! My brother got a Bobro VG which I actually like even better than Tango down or Larue. OH NO! I just ordered an LT660 for myself for Father's Day. OH NO! Everyone has their own opinion and preference. If you don't like Larue, but do like ADM (not TangoDown) or Bobro, then good for you! Buy them and keep on truckin'! No need for everyone to take it so personal if they don't like a particular manufacturer.
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So you think a VG where you have to use a tool to adjust your QD every time you want to switch guns is superior to something like Tango Down (ADM) or Bobro. Good grief man, Larue makes nice stuff, I agree, but they're not the "end all-be all" of everything they make. I got rid of my FUG because it's a pain in the ass to constantly adjust, and replaced it with a Tango Down (ADM). OH NO! My brother got a Bobro VG which I actually like even better than Tango down or Larue. OH NO! I just ordered an LT660 for myself for Father's Day. OH NO! Quoted:
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I still never understand the talk of LaRue mounts marring rails. I've never experienced this to even the slightest degree. My experience is with dozens of LaRue mounts on dozens of different rifles as well. If you have them adjusted too tight they will dent the underside of an aluminum rail. That being said adjusted correctly I have never had a problem. Gotta love when people don't follow the instructions, and then blame/accuse the product. These people have gotta be tightening their LaRue mounts down insanely to mar their rails. I tighten mine to a degree where a decent amount of elbow grease needs to be applied to remove them, and I've never seen one even scuff a rail of mine... So you think a VG where you have to use a tool to adjust your QD every time you want to switch guns is superior to something like Tango Down (ADM) or Bobro. Good grief man, Larue makes nice stuff, I agree, but they're not the "end all-be all" of everything they make. I got rid of my FUG because it's a pain in the ass to constantly adjust, and replaced it with a Tango Down (ADM). OH NO! My brother got a Bobro VG which I actually like even better than Tango down or Larue. OH NO! I just ordered an LT660 for myself for Father's Day. OH NO! Why exactly am I constantly adjusting my LaRue mounts? I adjust them once for the rifle they are going on, and then I'm done... I don't play musical chairs with my optics. I have a dedicated optic for every rifle I own. And sorry that I prefer LaRue.  I'm not really seeing the point to your post. I currently own several ADM equipped TD VFGs, I've owned four different ADM scope mounts, I've owned one Bobro mount. I vastly prefer LaRue. Umm...sorry...is that what you're looking for?
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Why exactly am I constantly adjusting my LaRue mounts? I adjust them once for the rifle they are going on, and then I'm done... I don't play musical chairs with my optics. I have a dedicated optic for every rifle I own. And sorry that I prefer LaRue. I'm not really seeing the point to your post. I currently own several ADM equipped TD VFGs, I've owned four different ADM scope mounts, I've owned one Bobro mount. I vastly prefer LaRue. Umm...sorry...is that what you're looking for?Quoted:
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I still never understand the talk of LaRue mounts marring rails. I've never experienced this to even the slightest degree. My experience is with dozens of LaRue mounts on dozens of different rifles as well. If you have them adjusted too tight they will dent the underside of an aluminum rail. That being said adjusted correctly I have never had a problem. Gotta love when people don't follow the instructions, and then blame/accuse the product. These people have gotta be tightening their LaRue mounts down insanely to mar their rails. I tighten mine to a degree where a decent amount of elbow grease needs to be applied to remove them, and I've never seen one even scuff a rail of mine... So you think a VG where you have to use a tool to adjust your QD every time you want to switch guns is superior to something like Tango Down (ADM) or Bobro. Good grief man, Larue makes nice stuff, I agree, but they're not the "end all-be all" of everything they make. I got rid of my FUG because it's a pain in the ass to constantly adjust, and replaced it with a Tango Down (ADM). OH NO! My brother got a Bobro VG which I actually like even better than Tango down or Larue. OH NO! I just ordered an LT660 for myself for Father's Day. OH NO! Why exactly am I constantly adjusting my LaRue mounts? I adjust them once for the rifle they are going on, and then I'm done... I don't play musical chairs with my optics. I have a dedicated optic for every rifle I own. And sorry that I prefer LaRue. I'm not really seeing the point to your post. I currently own several ADM equipped TD VFGs, I've owned four different ADM scope mounts, I've owned one Bobro mount. I vastly prefer LaRue. Umm...sorry...is that what you're looking for?Good for you, and I like Larue for some things, and not for others. Just like I like Bobro for some things, and not for others (same with ADM). You are the one who is attacking everyone's opinion that doesn't align with you own. WTF? |
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I like bobro for optics, I have a larue FUG that I like a lot, but I recently had to readjust it because it was shifting forward and backward (2 days ago). It has only ever been on the same rail (centurion) and i do take it off when shooting from bags, only thing I can think of was repeated on and off eventually cause something to wear and I had to tighten the nut to get it tight again
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Please quote one opinion I've attacked here. By all means, please do... I've done nothing but provide my own opinions. Quoted:
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These people have gotta be tightening their LaRue mounts down insanely to mar their rails. I tighten mine to a degree where a decent amount of elbow grease needs to be applied to remove them, and I've never seen one even scuff a rail of mine... several posts after I brought up preferring ADM for smaller things (like bipod adapters and light mounts, because they don't mar up stuff when switching from gun to gun). If I came across too strong, I apologize. I've been in too many threads where anyone who says ANYTHING negative about Larue gets gang raped, curb stomped, and then crapped on by ML himself. Truth be told, I like Larue mounts for a lot of things, just not as much as Bobro for scope mounts, and not as much as ADM for little stuff I'm always moving around. Like I said before, I just ordered an LT660 (I prefer the Larue over Bobro for micro mounts). We disagree on personal preference, which is great because I know we're not alone, and now both great companies get to stay in business. Anyway, I don't want to get into a pissing match, and if I'm the one who started pissing, I'm humbly put my pecker back in my pants. |
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