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5/10/2009 9:37:22 PM EDT
I'm going to be helping my Dad buy his first AR and I wanted to see what you guys thought.

He's looking at Les Baer Police Special but I was thinking of just building one for him.  All I know at this point is that an ACOG and SOPMOD are mandatory.

What would you guys use for an ideal ACOG rifle.  He wants to keep it lightweight.
5/10/2009 9:44:45 PM EDT
[#1]
lightweight? take a look at those nice Compact ACOGs
the TA33 (3x) seems to be quite popular as all around scope but I've never tried one;
I like my TA44 (1.5x) because it's very similar to a red dot....but I also have a TA01 for shooting at longer range.
5/10/2009 9:49:40 PM EDT
[#2]
What kind of shooting is your Dad going to do, and at what distances?

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5/10/2009 9:54:23 PM EDT
[#3]
TA33-R8

9" DD Lite Rail

16" Mid-length gas system Bravo Company or Noveske N4 Upper

Any lower.
5/10/2009 9:56:49 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
What kind of shooting is your Dad going to do, and at what distances?

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Mostly Bench shooting, he wants an all-around rifle.  He's not the run and gun type but he would like that ability if SHTF.
5/10/2009 10:08:42 PM EDT
[#5]
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What kind of shooting is your Dad going to do, and at what distances?

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Mostly Bench shooting, he wants an all-around rifle.  He's not the run and gun type but he would like that ability if SHTF.


Has he tried out any variable optics? I mean, an ACOG is great but it sounds like you're building a rifle around one, which seems backwards to me. The optics should fit the purpose of the rifle.
5/10/2009 11:08:26 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
TA33-R8

9" DD Lite Rail

16" Mid-length gas system Bravo Company or Noveske N4 Upper

Any lower.


This is the correct answer, but an Omega Rail is nice, too.
5/10/2009 11:15:52 PM EDT
[#7]
Building him one is probably a better value than the Les Baer.  16" top end (BCM or LMT)- stick with a regular length gas tube for ease of parts/ repair.  BCM or LMT BCG also. LMT lower with the SOPMOD stock, DD Omega Rail is an easy install or so is the VLTOR CASV-EL (both free float the barrel). The new Colt 6940 looks very good with a rail system already built in and the BCG, CH already included but you'd have to switch the stock out for the SOPMOD (extra $200). All better value at a cheaper price i would imagine than paying for the brand name of his first choice.

ACOGs are pretty good for all around gun.TA31s are popular though on the expensive side. That TA33 looks very impressive and light weight compared to the older models.   Have a TA11 and am very happy with it.  A 1-4 variable with a electronic dot would be nice but very expensive for the favs. IOR Valdada has a fixed 3 x 25 tactical with an electronic dot that has gotten favorable reviews as well as a 1.1- 4 variable with electronic dot. The 3x is a few hundred cheaper than buying the ACOG and the 1-4var is approx. to it in costs. Haven't had a chance to use either but have a fixed 4x IOR with electronic dot that has very decent glass on it. Meopta also has a variable 1-4x with very favorable reviews (same company as the IOR).  Would think seriously think of getting one of those  for a variable if i was in the financial  position to now but alas....

Just stuff i've been kicking around for my eventual next build...
5/11/2009 4:47:37 AM EDT
[#8]
Reminds me of the Kohler Commercial- "Build a house around this"

An ACOG is so BA that it can be done-

Start and end at the TA31-DOC you won't be disappointed.  May be expensive but it will last you a lifetime.

I love the hell out of mine.
5/11/2009 5:45:47 AM EDT
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Quoted:
What kind of shooting is your Dad going to do, and at what distances?

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Mostly Bench shooting, he wants an all-around rifle.  He's not the run and gun type but he would like that ability if SHTF.

Since your Dad is into bench/general purpose shooting it sounds like he might be better served with a less specialized optic.

If you guys like Trijicon you may want to take a look at the variable AccuPoints. The TR24 for example is a 1-4x optic with BAC, so you have 1x for CQB and 4x when you need to reach out. I own a 3-9x AccuPoint and love it every bit as much as my ACOGs. My next optic will be a TR24, more info HERE



5/11/2009 6:37:44 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
I'm going to be helping my Dad buy his first AR and I wanted to see what you guys thought.

He's looking at Les Baer Police Special but I was thinking of just building one for him.  All I know at this point is that an ACOG and SOPMOD are mandatory.

What would you guys use for an ideal ACOG rifle.  He wants to keep it lightweight.




Build one or find a Stag, Bushy, or even a Colt (colt may be the same price though, but I would say better quality)

5/11/2009 4:45:16 PM EDT
[#11]
TA31DOC - DOC for CQB, 4x for intermediate / long range.  Expensive but no compromise.
5/11/2009 5:28:06 PM EDT
[#12]
ACOG of choice, I'd recommend the TA31F or H.
16" Mid-length, RRA, BCM, etc...
RRA lower with 2-stage NM trigger.
SOPMOD stock.
MAGPUL MAID.

Done.
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