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8/3/2004 4:12:30 PM EDT
Has anyone dry fired a lower (no upper) and had the bolt release break?
8/3/2004 4:47:46 PM EDT
[#1]
Haven't done it myself, but I can remember seeing at least two dumb-assed privates break M16's like that.

Needless to say, one should NEVER dry-fire an AR with no upper installed or something else to buffer the hammer.  Once is too much.
8/3/2004 5:04:04 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
Haven't done it myself, but I can remember seeing at least two dumb-assed privates break M16's like that.

Needless to say, one should NEVER dry-fire an AR with no upper installed or something else to buffer the hammer.  Once is too much.



Also a real problem with the AR-18/180 series. AND IF you break one of those, you're in a world of hurt, as that flimsy piece of metal is only available as either a used or NOS part that is scarce. Last AR-180 I acquired was missing that piece and I paid through the nose for that replacement.

If you feel like you absolutely MUST dryfire either weapon with the upper open or off, put a strip of leather in between the hammer and the bolt stop.



Lonny
8/3/2004 5:19:02 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
Has anyone dry fired a lower (no upper) and had the bolt release break?



Are you kidding me?  I had that happen two days ago.
8/3/2004 6:08:27 PM EDT
[#4]
buddy of mine did that a few weeks ago playing with his new lower and had to hit up AMEETEC for a new one
8/3/2004 6:27:21 PM EDT
[#5]
Heh.  There obviously needs to be a new entry, red-letter and bold case, in the "Fscking DUH!" section of the FAQ.
8/3/2004 6:40:28 PM EDT
[#6]
Add to the DUH! Section of the FAQ.

Once you break the bolt release...STOP. Don't do it again! You have accomplished your mission of demonstrating your stupidity to others.

Saw an idiot do it...he deformed and cracked the front of the FCG area.
8/3/2004 6:47:21 PM EDT
[#7]
Yes, only once.  It happens.

If you are going to "dry fire" the lower only, put a piece of leather or rubber between the hammer and receiver.
8/3/2004 7:49:41 PM EDT
[#8]
Hmm, in the Bushmaster gunsmith video they are doing it with no ill effects.
8/3/2004 9:42:56 PM EDT
[#9]
I dry fired my lower once by accident while cleaning.  I figured I had broken something for sure, but everything is fine.  The reciever was an eagle arms and with a bushmaster bolt stop.  Anyway, you definately shouldn't do it. IMHO  

Does anyone know, is it always the bolt stop that breaks first? I assume the reciever breaks if you do it without the bolt stop, or does it sometime break the reciever the first time?
8/3/2004 10:36:36 PM EDT
[#10]
I have done it a few times in the past with my Colt and have never had such a problem.
8/4/2004 12:10:58 AM EDT
[#11]
I must be lucky as I have done it a several times in my early days and not had any issues. Didn't seem nice to the rifle, but I like to break stuff anyways. No one ever said not to.
8/4/2004 2:32:20 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
I dry fired my lower once by accident while cleaning.  I figured I had broken something for sure, but everything is fine.  The reciever was an eagle arms and with a bushmaster bolt stop.  Anyway, you definately shouldn't do it. IMHO  

Does anyone know, is it always the bolt stop that breaks first? I assume the reciever breaks if you do it without the bolt stop, or does it sometime break the reciever the first time?



Actually, it's not always the bolt stop. Sometimes it is the reciever (as noted in some of the above responses). The first one I ever saw was the front wall of the lower, just ahead of the stop.

Over the years, I've accidentally dropped the hammer a few times on one or another AR.  No ill effects, but it sure speeds up your pulse for a minute or two.
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