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12/7/2010 10:55:15 AM EDT
I need advice on building an AR generally for ranch defense mainly.

I need 3 builds you would make for 900 dollars(Each build being 900 or less). Show me what you come up with!
12/7/2010 11:24:38 AM EDT
[#1]
Two Spike's ST-15 Midlength LE carbines and a bolt gun.
12/7/2010 12:26:27 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Two Spike's ST-15 Midlength LE carbines and a bolt gun.


+1

Spike's 5.56 MidLE for $800 + rear BUIS = $900

Spike's 5.45 MidLE upper for $650
Spike's Complete lower = $250
BUIS = $100

Remington 700 .270 or .243 or .308 for $650
Good glass = $200
Leupold scope rings/mount = $50
12/7/2010 12:49:22 PM EDT
[#3]
Stripped lower - 70 +25 transfer - 95
Palmetto MOE build kit - 129
fail zero stripped upper w/charging handle  - 150
Fail Zero BCG - 250
Upper parts - 50 bucks - including standard plastic heat shields off of the EE

Thats 674... add the balance of the hundred for shipping - leaving you with 200 bucks to find a barrel.

1 14.5 Middy
1 18"
1 20-24" heavy barrel.

honestly you could probably cut out the 3rd rifle... get a mossberg 500 instead and use the money you save to flesh out the 14.5 and the 18"

Of course you could go cheaper on the BCG or stripped upper... but you asked what i would build.

those would be bare ass rifles though... would still need sights.  MBUS rears.  And an optic for the 20" - on a budget... primary arms 4-16x

You could probably get a price break on the uppers-BCGs-Barrels-and lowers if you bought all at once though... "hey i need 3 of these... can you do any better on the price?"  

that price break you would get might cover the optics and sights.  
12/7/2010 12:52:39 PM EDT
[#4]
Well I'm willing to spen a little more..if needed but I found this
Spikes lower 250
LMT upper for 485
Young Mfg Chrome BCG -175

probably could find the lower and upper for a little cheaper somewhere.
12/7/2010 12:59:18 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Well I'm willing to spen a little more..if needed but I found this
Spikes lower 250
LMT upper for 485
Young Mfg Chrome BCG -175

probably could find the lower and upper for a little cheaper somewhere.


where did you find that LMT upper at? Specs?

Its not Rarguns is it?  

Either get a standard BCG or a Nickel Boron (NiB-Fail Zero) one... the advantages of chrome BCGs (ease of cleaning) do not outweigh the cheaper cost of a standard phosphate one.  But on the other hand i believe (my opinion) that the benefits of a NiB coated one (less malfunctions,no lube/light lube/ease of cleaning/added hardness/ready to go at all times) do justify the higher cost.
12/7/2010 1:12:37 PM EDT
[#6]
16'' LMT upper at RAINERARMS
Loess Hills Tactical sells it for 25 dollars cheaper. (Call and ask for Paul.. tell him Kevin sent you)
12/7/2010 1:16:38 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Well I'm willing to spen a little more..if needed but I found this
Spikes lower 250
LMT upper for 485
Young Mfg Chrome BCG -175

probably could find the lower and upper for a little cheaper somewhere.


You can get a BCM upper for less.  And a BCM BCG for less.  And I would take both over LMT and Young.

12/7/2010 1:25:03 PM EDT
[#8]
I wont change the BCG... even though they are a new company..i know the people. Seen them in action.
12/7/2010 1:32:18 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
I wont change the BCG... even though they are a new company..i know the people. Seen them in action.


They aren't that new of a company.  And that BCG is nothing special.  Just sayin.
12/7/2010 1:34:07 PM EDT
[#10]
And BCM is?
12/7/2010 1:38:55 PM EDT
[#11]
Let's see.  This was your original post leading people to believe that you were looking for info that you may not know:

Quoted:
I need advice on building an AR generally for ranch defense mainly.

I need 3 builds you would make for 900 dollars(Each build being 900 or less). Show me what you come up with!


Then came this post where you found a bunch of things yourself.

Quoted:
Well I'm willing to spen a little more..if needed but I found this
Spikes lower 250
LMT upper for 485
Young Mfg Chrome BCG -175

probably could find the lower and upper for a little cheaper somewhere.


And then finally this post

Quoted:
I wont change the BCG... even though they are a new company..i know the people. Seen them in action.



So here is my question - are you looking for advice or looking for justification of things you already knew you wanted?  Because it seems that more and more people post questions not looking for answers but rather looking for a pat on the back and justification.
12/7/2010 1:48:04 PM EDT
[#12]
Just looking for info, so I don't end up like the avg idiot in a gun shop. Looking for something that isnt likely to fail either.
and im still going with 3 builds..just rather get it right then wrong.
12/7/2010 1:55:09 PM EDT
[#13]
Three pretty similar guns.  When you get the money I'd put some kind of magnified optic on at least one.



http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=498251
12/7/2010 2:00:13 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Two Spike's ST-15 Midlength LE carbines and a bolt gun.


I would get 2 Spikes Midlength ARs with MBUS and a R700 SPS-Tact with Bushnell 3200 10x scope, EGW base and Burris XTR rings and call it a day.
12/7/2010 2:57:33 PM EDT
[#15]





Quoted:



Just looking for info, so I don't end up like the avg idiot in a gun shop. Looking for something that isnt likely to fail either.


and im still going with 3 builds..just rather get it right then wrong.



How big is the ranch?









two standard BCM or Spike's 16" carbines.  MOE handguards.  Aimpoint ML2 or micros in LT mounts as funds permit.  Standard carry-handle or DD A1.5 BUIS for now.








one 16" BCM or Spike's middy with stainless barrel.  Free float rail (DD Omega or Vltor tube).  4x optic on a good mount.  Harris tripod.







Surefire scout or G2L in a DD offset mount when funds allow for all three.







This will give you two outstanding fighting carbines with enough practical accuracy and reliability to handle almost any encounter.  The third rifle differing only in it's stainless barrel with the glass is to reach out a little bit further and help you see and ID partially concealed targets.  The stainless gun is still short enough to give you the handling of the standard carbines with only a small weight penalty.







Of course the accessories will add another 50% onto your project, but there is no shame in just getting the basic guns for now.  This should get you in your budget for just the guns.











 
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