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Posted: 6/1/2013 5:11:59 PM EDT
| Is a Colt 6920 complete lower really worth $300 more than a complete Bushmaster (not polymer) lower with Magpul MOE stock and grip? Going by recent Gunbroker prices. |
| There are only so many people making forging and machining them the big thing with lowers is are they in spec. Bring a mag with you try it in the lower does it seat easily and drop free, does the safety look like it was drilled correctly etc. I personally am not a big Colt person and no I don't believe it is better than the bushmaster lower but in all honesty the Colt will have a higher resell value and more than likely sell faster. |
| I have a Colt 6920LE and I had a M4 14.5 upper built for it- all Colt- so I have a Colt 16" upper and I want to put another rifle together. Bought a Colt CBG. Just wondering about function and quality and durability of the BM- $300-$350 over for the Colt lower makes me wonder- I could put that toward optics instead. |
| I do believe the Colt uses different size pivot, takedown and trigger pins. Colt will definitely have higher value, you are paying for the name. If I had a Colt upper that I was trying to find a lower for, I would go with the Colt over the Bushmaster, that way you know everything will fit correctly. |
| I can't believe this is even a question. One choice is a quality, mil spec receiver and the other is a piece of shit with known quality and reliability issues. $300, that's the price difference between happiness and the frustration of owning a rifle that likely will not work. |
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It was only a matter of time before the colt fanboys made there way out.
//BREAK// I did forget about how some of Colt's lowers do have different pin sizes though. Here is a link to the trigger and hammer pins if you decide to get the Colt OP: http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/triggers-bottom-metals/hammer-parts/hammer-pins/hammer-trigger-pin-170--sku160305101-4850-10828.aspx?sku=160-305-101 Currently on backorder at the moment. |
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Quoted: It was only a matter of time before the colt fanboys made there way out. //BREAK// I did forget about how some of Colt's lowers do have different pin sizes though. Here is a link to the trigger and hammer pins if you decide to get the Colt OP: http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/triggers-bottom-metals/hammer-parts/hammer-pins/hammer-trigger-pin-170--sku160305101-4850-10828.aspx?sku=160-305-101 Currently on backorder at the moment. I'm not necessarily a Colt fan. In fact, for the money BCM, LMT, LaRue and Noveske probably make rifles and parts that are at least equal to Colt. Bushmaster is pure out of spec shit. |
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Quoted: What's out of spec on the Bushmaster, exactly? Also, if the Colt has differently sized pins, doesn't that make it "out of spec", or does the spec not spec those pins? Colt has used standard size pins since mid 2008. Most noteworthy about the Bushmaster is mag. wells out of spec. It is not uncommon to find BM lowers with trigger/hammer pin holes that are out of spec.
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Out of spec, meaning, PMag won't drop out?
I have a DPMS lower laying around here, is it out of spec as well? If so, what about it is out of spec? PMags drop out of it, I just checked... ETA: I'm not trying to be an ass here, I'm very new to all of this, so I'm honestly curious. |
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Through the years Bushmaster's quality control has been less than stellar. Many of their receivers will be just fine and some will not. I am just a sample size of one person who has owned two Bushmasters. One was fine and one wouldn't accept standard mags and the trigger pin hole was not machined in the right location. This is not a large enough sampling to mean anything other than I will never buy another one. There are many examples of less than perfect machining by Bushmaster to be found on the Internet. As I said, I don't believe either Colt or bushmaster is the right choice. I would buy BCM or LMT lowers if I was looking for one. Remember that no matter what a companies' web site says about being mil spec only Colt and FN parts are mil spec. |
| Whatever.. Magpul mags Milspec supposed to be.. Hate to see one opinion discourage everyone else. One opinion is what it is. Negativity is tough to live with. Positve, Open minds go farthier. Buy what you want and learn and enjoy what you have. Try to keep an open mind doing it. |
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Through the years Bushmaster's quality control has been less than stellar. Many of their receivers will be just fine and some will not. I am just a sample size of one person who has owned two Bushmasters. One was fine and one wouldn't accept standard mags and the trigger pin hole was not machined in the right location. This is not a large enough sampling to mean anything other than I will never buy another one. There are many examples of less than perfect machining by Bushmaster to be found on the Internet. As I said, I don't believe either Colt or bushmaster is the right choice. I would buy BCM or LMT lowers if I was looking for one. Remember that no matter what a companies' web site says about being mil spec only Colt and FN parts are mil spec. I lean this way too. A buddy's BM lower won't drop PMAGs while the same PMAGs drop free from my S&W, ArmaLite, Valkyrie and Quentin Defense lowers. Of course it's just one BM lower but I'd shy away from them. I also wouldn't pay that much for a Colt lower but would love to have one. Instead I put milspec parts in the mentioned stripped lowers, in effect giving me the same result as the Colt 6920 lower. Another thing, the Colt 6920 lower should have a7075 milspec receiver extension and H buffer, the Bushamster will have the standard buffer and 6061 commercial diameter RE, unless someone upgraded it. |
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Also unless I'm remembering wrong (and I could be!) I don't think the Bushy has M4 feed ramps, does it? Still a popular brand with a lot of fans. Either will serve you well, but since it's all Colt so far, why not shop for a slightly better deal and pull the trigger on Colt?
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Through the years Bushmaster's quality control has been less than stellar. Many of their receivers will be just fine and some will not. I am just a sample size of one person who has owned two Bushmasters. One was fine and one wouldn't accept standard mags and the trigger pin hole was not machined in the right location. This is not a large enough sampling to mean anything other than I will never buy another one. There are many examples of less than perfect machining by Bushmaster to be found on the Internet. As I said, I don't believe either Colt or bushmaster is the right choice. I would buy BCM or LMT lowers if I was looking for one. Remember that no matter what a companies' web site says about being mil spec only Colt and FN parts are mil spec. I lean this way too. A buddy's BM lower won't drop PMAGs while the same PMAGs drop free from my S&W, ArmaLite, Valkyrie and Quentin Defense lowers. Of course it's just one BM lower but I'd shy away from them. I also wouldn't pay that much for a Colt lower but would love to have one. Instead I put milspec parts in the mentioned stripped lowers, in effect giving me the same result as the Colt 6920 lower. Another thing, the Colt 6920 lower should have a7075 milspec receiver extension and H buffer, the Bushamster will have the standard buffer and 6061 commercial diameter RE, unless someone upgraded it. |
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Also unless I'm remembering wrong (and I could be!) I don't think the Bushy has M4 feed ramps, does it? Still a popular brand with a lot of fans. Either will serve you well, but since it's all Colt so far, why not shop for a slightly better deal and pull the trigger on Colt?
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Through the years Bushmaster's quality control has been less than stellar. Many of their receivers will be just fine and some will not. I am just a sample size of one person who has owned two Bushmasters. One was fine and one wouldn't accept standard mags and the trigger pin hole was not machined in the right location. This is not a large enough sampling to mean anything other than I will never buy another one. There are many examples of less than perfect machining by Bushmaster to be found on the Internet. As I said, I don't believe either Colt or bushmaster is the right choice. I would buy BCM or LMT lowers if I was looking for one. Remember that no matter what a companies' web site says about being mil spec only Colt and FN parts are mil spec. I lean this way too. A buddy's BM lower won't drop PMAGs while the same PMAGs drop free from my S&W, ArmaLite, Valkyrie and Quentin Defense lowers. Of course it's just one BM lower but I'd shy away from them. I also wouldn't pay that much for a Colt lower but would love to have one. Instead I put milspec parts in the mentioned stripped lowers, in effect giving me the same result as the Colt 6920 lower. Another thing, the Colt 6920 lower should have a7075 milspec receiver extension and H buffer, the Bushamster will have the standard buffer and 6061 commercial diameter RE, unless someone upgraded it. Actually the feed ramps are in the upper but you're right, some Bushies don't have them. At least my buddy's doesn't have M4 feed ramps. |
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