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5/6/2008 3:25:46 PM EDT
I am new here, so I have lots of newbie questions.  Anyway, I just bought a Stag Lefty 2L and am looking for a sight for it.  I had decided on an eotech 512, but have been thinking of going with the bushnell and saving $100.  I have not seen anyone use the bushnell on a AR before.   I am mostly going to hunt and plink with my AR.  Are the Holosights anygood?  Pros/Cons? will magnifiers work with the holo?
thanks
5/6/2008 3:57:54 PM EDT
[#1]
I own a first gen Bushnell hollow sight. It rocks though it is not a durable as an eotech.

On the latest gen sights the skinny is they are pretty much the same sight except for that the Bushnell doesn't have a night vision capable version and The Bushnell doesn't have the tough armor on it either.
As far as will a magnifier work with the Bushnell, i don't know.
For plinking and light duty the Bushnell will do what you need just don't club a bear with it or go swimming with it.
5/6/2008 4:06:55 PM EDT
[#2]
They're built by EOTech, just without the protective cover over the optic cavity.  I don't know if the new Bushnell sights have the new rubber buttons or the old style membrane switches.  The membrane switches are likely much less durable.

I've also seen a lot of complaints on Midway of Bushnell's warranty support.  Many dealers are discounting the 512 now, as it is being replaced by the 516.  I just got my $328 512 from DPMS today
5/7/2008 6:45:14 AM EDT
[#3]
I was going to save money and buy the bushnell also but I didnt want the N battery set-up (It doesnt last long enough).  The Eotech is supposedly more durable.  The Bushnell is waterproof but it doesnt say how deep The Eotech tells you how far its waterproof to.  Eotech doesnt make Bushnells  holosight from what I was told by a Bushnell rep.  Some "other "company makes the Eotech and Bushnell.  I'm getting the Eotech
5/7/2008 9:39:20 AM EDT
[#4]
Here's my standard post on Bushnell/Eotech differences:

The Bushnell Holosight and the Eotech use the same holographic technologies, and the Bushnells that look like the Eotech are made in America, in the same plant as the Eotechs.  There are 2 styles of Bushnell Holosight now - the Eotech style, and the XLP, which is much more futuristic looking, and is made in Japan. The XLP is physically a completely different design, but still uses the same reticle.  From a reticle perspective, there's very little difference between any of them except for max brightness.

Essentially, the Eotech style Bushnell is a pre Rev F Eotech without the hood.

Here are the key differences:

- The Eotech uses their Rev F technology (starting in 2005), which greatly extends battery life and gives a much wider range of reticle brightness, including more brightness at the high end, and has improved buttons. The Bushnells use the pre-Rev F technology still, with shorter battery life and less brightness range.  The Rev F Eotechs are marked with an F on the hood, but the hood can be replaced or changed easily, so this isn't always a good indication.

- Battery life:
Eotech N battery version - 200 hours at the 12 (of 20) setting
Eotech AA version - 600 hours (alkaline), 1000 hours (lithium) at the 12 (of 20) setting.
Bushnell N battery version - 40 hours life at the 12 (of 20) setting
Bushnell AAA battery version (XLP) - 100 hours life at the 10 (of 15) setting

There's no data I've found on battery life for the Eotech 553 that uses CR123 batteries, or on the Bushnell AA version.

- The Eotech has a protective hood. The Eotech style Bushnell doesn't, and can't be retrofitted, though the hood is available as a replacement part through Eotech.  The hood fits on a set of rails with tapped holes on the Eotech base that aren't there on the Bushnell.  Both have encapsulated electronics for recoil and impact resistance.  The Bushnell XLP has a hood built in to the design, but is not directly comparable to the Eotech design.

- The 55X models of the Eotech have night vision compatible settings in addition to the regular settings. The 51X Eotechs and the Bushnells don't have this.

- The 55X versions of the Eotech are waterproof to 33 feet, while the 51X versions and the Bushnell are waterproof to 10 feet.

- The Eotechs are available using N or AA batteries, and the new 553 uses CR123 version. The Eotech style Bushnells are available using N batteries, and had an AA version that's not available in their current catalog. The Bushnell XLP models use AAA batteries.

For all of them, if you use lithium batteries, you dramatically increase battery life, especially at low temperatures, but the low battery indication doesn't work with lithium batteries.  Note that N batteries aren't generally available in lithium.  Also, there have been a number of problems reported with N battery Eotechs draining the battery rapidly, even while off.  The conventional wisdom is to use name brand batteries to help avoid this, but there's little hard data on this problem.

Both brands have a 2 year warranty.  Bushnell uses the manufacture date to determine the warranty period.

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