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7/15/2004 7:44:53 PM EDT
I have over 40 FAL mags so the BAR-10 is really starting to appeal to me.  I am also a lefty so the mag release and bolt hold open device are extra appealing to me.  The deal breaker for me is this.  Will FAL 30 round mags fit in the Bushy?  I guess the straight ones would.  I am asking about the curved ones naturally because I have 5 of them.  I got them from DSA and they work flawlessly in my FALs.  Does anyone know anyone who has tried sticking one of these sticks in a BAR-10?  Let me know.  If it works I am sold.  If not I'll stick with my AR-10 which by the way is 100% reliable with the 5 20rounder mags I have for it.  All are LEGAL conversions with Kits purchased from Quantico Arms.  I just want another 30 round rifle in .308 and  the BAR-10 might be it.

Here is a pic of one of mine.
7/15/2004 8:02:30 PM EDT
[#1]

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 Will FAL 30 round mags fit in the Bushy?  



I don't have one to try - sorry about that.

But I can tell you that the BAR-10 mag well requires a mag that is straight (no curve) for 2.5" at the front of the mag from the top and 3" at the back of the mag from the top.  The top being the feed lips.

If your 30-round mags start to curve sooner than this, they probably will not fit.

FYI-Thermold mags will not fit because of a molded lip around the mag that will not go into the mag well.

All 20-round FAL mags I have tried so far work well (one was difficult to remove, but was easily fixed by filing the locking lug on the bacl of the magazine).

HTH
7/16/2004 6:29:25 PM EDT
[#2]
This is an email I got from Bushmaster a few months back...I believe the info is still valid...just fyi



Subject: BAR-10 Magazines


Magazines for the .308 BAR-10 Rifle


The .308 will readily accept the following mags:

* Steel FN FAL metric and inch pattern 20 rd mags work well.
* 30 rd, curved, L4A1 7.62 NATO (Bren Gun) mags work well.
* Straight FAL mags, such as the South African 30 rd should readily work.
* FN licensed contract FAL mags should work well - i.e., Austrian, German, Argentine, Brazilian, etc.
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* Problem, or may be problem mags:
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* Australian "straight" 30 rd mags will not work (feed lips and body are at a 10° angle to each other).
* Old Israeli mags have corroded and/or weak springs.
* Very old, phosphated Israeli mags seem to have the most problems - usually a last round bolt over base failure.
* Samples of mags from India were not tested - the quality and reliability is unknown.
* Thermold mags have a mag well "flange" that must be removed, but they still can be used.
FAL Aluminum Mags are not recommended (due to feed lip spread).

           Thank you,
         BushmasterTech Support.
7/28/2004 1:44:00 PM EDT
[#3]
I tried to use some of those TAPCO 30-rounders from who knows where they got them and they just get stuck in the magazine well. I hope to spend some time with a Dremel and see if I can get them to lock in and drop out easily.

Thanks,
Ron
7/28/2004 5:33:02 PM EDT
[#4]
I honestly don't see a big appeal for 30 rd .308 mags, H.E.A.V.Y., and shooting prone would be problematic.  

Not sure of the quality of 30 rd FAL mags either. The ones I have seen (South African, maybe?) have been pretty much painted-up rusty messes.
7/29/2004 3:09:43 PM EDT
[#5]
Whats the big deal!  10 more rounds thats the big deal.  Yes I agree that it would be hard if not impossible to shoot prone.  SO WHAT.  I use my 30 round FAL mags in my DSA Congo 18" bbl FAL all the time with ZERO malfunctions.  It is heavy but I figure I am not carrying this thing through the bush I use it on a range and weight is not a problem.  
7/29/2004 4:16:22 PM EDT
[#6]
I would go with the Bushmaster. The fact that you don't have to modify an expensive magazine should be a big plus. The ambi mag release and bolt release are also a good thing hanks,Ron
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