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Posted: 4/11/2009 8:58:57 PM EDT
| Just wondering what everyone thinks about the C-More Systems Aluminum Tactical sight for A3 variant AR's. Knew one guy had a polymer one in Iraq and he liked it. Any views.... |
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If you are referring to the Tactical model I had one and returned it.
IMO it is perfect for a competition gun or range toy but it's not well suited as a combat sight. The sight is too exposed and susceptible to damage if dropped or hit. If I rmember correctly the POA is adjusted by turning screws that move the entire glass housing that sits on that plastic "hinge". Another thing I didn't care for was the requirement of small allen wrench to change out batteries. ETA I returned the C More and bought the Trijicon Reflex RX01-14 which is tough as nails but suffers from washout on occasion. |
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Knew one guy had a polymer one in Iraq and he liked it. Any views....
That mean nothing, Troops will use all kinds of stuff if they can get away with it and for the "Cool" factor... Shooters /BTDT guys that I know wold not use them. good for gaming and range use,but a hard use sight. Difficult to zero No click adjustments battery life is dismal compared to Aimpoints or EOTechs. Fragile compared to other designs. Look around and you will not see to many running this optic. Look at Aimpoint or EOTech' new sights... you get what you pay for.. |
| I agree with tpsh. There is a reason that C-Mores are really popular in lots of different shooting competitions, and that's because they are great competition sights. They are reliable and light and small. They are not combat sights though. There's really no protection for the sight. I wouldn't hesitate to put a C-More on a range gun, but it wouldn't be my choice for a fighting rifle. |
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Little bit of fail going on here....
1) Battery is good for 300 hours at max setting, 1500 hours at low. That's just as good or better then a EOTech. The Battery is the size of a pencil eraser. You can carry 300 in your front pocket and not even think about it. 2)Its true you need a tool to remove the Battery compartment ON A PLASTIC MODEL. That being said, if you don't have room for a small Allen key wrench in your CLEANING KIT, you need to learn how to pack better. Then again the OP was about the ATAC which has thumb screws. 3)You don't want "click" adjustments. Those clicks force you to choose between two positions...what if your true zero is between them.....think about it. the adjustment screws move the sight base...NOT THE DIODE. Which means if the sight is slammed hard the zero will not move...thats why it was designed like that. It is the best way to hold zero. 4)The ATAC is hard coated to T5....its stronger then a EOTech, its stronger then 99% of all the scopes on the market. The CTAC is made from plastic. It will still hold up to normal abuse. If the impact will crack the side or glass tower on a C-More it will do the same on most scopes and EOTechs on the market. The only optic that will hold up to more abuse is the T1, or M4. 5)The C-More is designed to be mounted DIRECTLY to the slide of a pistol. If you don't think that proves it will hold up on a AR15, I can't help you. 6)The ATAC and CTAC are both mounted on a Cardinal Forged chopped Carry Handle. They are built tough and lock up perfectly to any AR15 on the market without the need of any mounts or spacers. The reason people don't use them is ignorance. |
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Really, I guess I'm ignorant  Hard to imagine such a piece of wonderful gear is ignored by so many of us that have used one and gone on to something better....I guess so if you gave up a $500 optic proven to be stronger and more reliable then most other red dots on the market. let me guess you "up graded" to a $300 aimpoint or a $100 Fake-point....lol The only up-grade from an ATAC is a T1 or a M4. Other red dots (even aimpoints) or EOTechs are a down grade my friend. |
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The only two RDS I will put on my fighting rifle would be a Trijicon Reflex 30 (I have one on my LMT) or a Aimpoint with a 4 moa dot.. I know alot of people like the 2 moa dots but then agian alot of people forget that the red dots are close range optics they can be used to shoot just as far as you can shoot with irons but thats not the point.. The reason I picked the Trijicon Reflex 30 is due to the 6moa dot and its a tuff optic to beat.. for anything within 50 yards... and out to 200m if you have to.. but I have my TA31F for my mid to long range stuff.. (50m+)
as for pure speed you cannot beat a Red dot type sight but if you practice with irons or even a ACOG you can get close to as fast as one.. not many people will agree with that but its only due to the fact they have never put in the time to practice (and im not talking 200 rounds and 1 day at the range) then agian some people do pick up faster then others.. |
Nah, I bought the C-More Tactical back in 1999 or 2000, I didn't put that many rounds through it, but the adjustments left me disappointed so I sold it. I have two Aimpoint M2s, a Micro T1, three 4x32 ACOGs all of them with Docter or JPoint on top, two EOTech 553s, those are just the short to medium range optics, none of them cost less than $300 
I'll probably be one of the last that people here would guess to buy cheap optics. |
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CWDraco The reason people don't use them is ignorance.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess you own one.... your too funny.... I'll continue to be ignorant and not get one...  I agree, CWDraco is being just a bit too dismissive, not to mention unwaveringly set in his position. There IS more than one option out there. There is no weapon, device or optic that is perfect for every scenario and condition. Everything we slap on our rifles is a compromise. We try to pick parts that best suit our circumstances. I am really proud of some of my stuff too, but I have not gone overboard on any of it the way you have. |
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CWDraco The reason people don't use them is ignorance.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess you own one.... your too funny.... I'll continue to be ignorant and not get one... I agree, CWDraco is being just a bit too dismissive, not to mention unwaveringly set in his position. There IS more than one option out there. There is no weapon, device or optic that is perfect for every scenario and condition. Everything we slap on our rifles is a compromise. We try to pick parts that best suit our circumstances. I am really proud of some of my stuff too, but I have not gone overboard on any of it the way you have. You are right. I do own a CTAC and an ATAC. I also own a 512, and did own a M3. Thats why I KNOW the ATAC is a combat PROVEN by the US ARMY. Is the CTAC that good...fuck NO. The CTAC is a range optic. It can take some banging around sure, but I how hard I am on my weapons, I would not trust the CTAC in a combat zone. The ATAC is another story. If you do some searches you would find everyone saying poopoo on the ATAC is using information they got on the CTAC...these are not the same thing. I dont even think the ATAC was made in 2000 BTW my friend, so once again you are talking about the CTAC. In the thinnest area around the optic it is still TWICE as think as anywhere on any other optic, and you are telling me its not strong? Fuck man its thicker then the walls on my M4!!!!! Are you telling me if I drop my Colt Sporter its gonna crack? Also I love it when guys will use an optic KNOWN to fail when its needed and not worry about it (REFLEX), but since no one else using an optic or because they read information about a cheaper optic they will not use it...weird what people think and do. FYI, anyone who uses a Trijicon Reflex for a combat sight is asking for trouble....But don't worry just cuz the dot goes away doesnt mean its not a good optic...LOL best of luck guys. |
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