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Posted: 8/14/2012 10:50:13 AM EDT
| Does anyone here shoot cast bullets in the AR,and what are your factual results? |
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I know one guy who gave in a try,,, NO GO,, the gas is too hot and it melts the bullet,, if you were to use a buffer, material, that will foul the gas system. you can play with them in a Bolt, action gun,,, I have cast and shot .30 cal bullets,, but not the smaller ones,, |
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Quoted: Quoted: its not the gas as much as the friction/mass. I know one guy who gave in a try,,, NO GO,, the gas is too hot and it melts the bullet,, In any case,,, it was not worth the effort,, they did not shoot a good group, and by the time you got them hot enough to function the semi,, they were messing up the barrel, leading up your gas hole,,,  is also not a good thing,, |
| I asked for factual experience,and I get opinions?????? I'm working with cast right now and YES it is looking promising with a Saeco 221 mold dropping at 225x62,full function,2"@50 yards.No leading,btw the psi that comes through the barrel into the gas tube will clear any lead(if any) that's there...9 cents a round as compared to commercial 40 cents! |
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I asked for factual experience,and I get opinions?????? I'm working with cast right now and YES it is looking promising with a Saeco 221 mold dropping at 225x62,full function,2"@50 yards.No leading,btw the psi that comes through the barrel into the gas tube will clear any lead(if any) that's there...9 cents a round as compared to commercial 40 cents! You need to stop taking things so seriously. Factually few do it as its kind of a hassle for the returns. Factually I reload all day for 15 cents a round, as low as 12 if I get the right stuff on sale. Lot tighter groups then 2" I'll say that for sure. Factually most people run into leading. Lead melts easly, it's a fact not opinion. Fools buy commercial loads at .40 cents a round. Most of my massing of ammo in the last few years was closer to .29 and that's lake city brass. |
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50 yd groupings. Not super accurate, but good for plinking 
Did not have any issue with leading or clogging of the gas tube through 100 plus rounds at one sitting. Shot it several times 20 to 100 rounds at a time. still have not had any leading issues. |
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I asked for factual experience,and I get opinions?????? I'm working with cast right now and YES it is looking promising with a Saeco 221 mold dropping at 225x62,full function,2"@50 yards.No leading,btw the psi that comes through the barrel into the gas tube will clear any lead(if any) that's there...9 cents a round as compared to commercial 40 cents! You need to stop taking things so seriously. Factually few do it as its kind of a hassle for the returns. Factually I reload all day for 15 cents a round, as low as 12 if I get the right stuff on sale. Lot tighter groups then 2" I'll say that for sure. Factually most people run into leading. Lead melts easly, it's a fact not opinion. Fools buy commercial loads at .40 cents a round. Most of my massing of ammo in the last few years was closer to .29 and that's lake city brass. These were the first loads with cast for this platform,I don't feel 2"@50 is too bad to start,and I do take it seriously,don't like sorting through the ignorant, opinionated bullshit! GT27 |
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Yes I have http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j243/gdsjr/AR%20weapons/223cast001jpg.jpg 50 yd groupings. Not super accurate, but good for plinking http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j243/gdsjr/AR%20weapons/223cast002jpg.jpg Did not have any issue with leading or clogging of the gas tube through 100 plus rounds at one sitting. Shot it several times 20 to 100 rounds at a time. still have not had any leading issues Thank you,finally somebody that's on the same mental channel!.Have you had any issues with reliability?Nice weapon btw! What mold are you casting with?What gas checks? GT27 |
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Quoted: I asked for factual experience,and I get opinions?????? I'm working with cast right now and YES it is looking promising with a Saeco 221 mold dropping at 225x62,full function,2"@50 yards.No leading,btw the psi that comes through the barrel into the gas tube will clear any lead(if any) that's there...9 cents a round as compared to commercial 40 cents! Always liked the idea of casting my own. My uncle did that for his '06 around 40yrs ago. Then again, when I can find a deal for 1k 62gr FMJ at 9.5¢ per bullet, or 15¢ for bulk Win 55gr FMJ I'd have to give that serious consideration. |
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Using the the Lee Bator mold 55 gr round nose. I have had a few failure to feed, but they were easily remedied and I think it was more of the bullet design then anything else. it is a blunt bullet. I am using the Hornady Gas check.
I also cast and shoot with functioning of the Action the following: AR15 - .300 blkout No leading AK47 - 7.62x39 L1A1 - .308 M1919 - .308 With the AK if I fire a lot of rounds quickly I do get lead build up on the end of the gas piston, clean off with a bore brush and automatic transmission fluid. With the 1919 Lead will build up in the booster that has to be cleaned up. With a freshly clean booster i can go thru a 200 round belt plus before I need to clean it. Incedently, I have heard for years the danger of cast bullets and gas system rifles as well as the use of .22 lr conversion in the AR15. The consistent theme is that it will clog your gas system, but it is always "my buddy' or "I heard" with little to no hard evidence. "Conventional wisdom often neither" I have fired 2 550 round bricks thru a ciener conversion, bulled out the bolt dropped in .223 bolt, slapped in a mag, and it functioned just fine. |
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I asked for factual experience,and I get opinions?????? I'm working with cast right now and YES it is looking promising with a Saeco 221 mold dropping at 225x62,full function,2"@50 yards.No leading,btw the psi that comes through the barrel into the gas tube will clear any lead(if any) that's there...9 cents a round as compared to commercial 40 cents! What have you been useing for powder and how much ? Are you just shooting for accuracy or are you getting the action to function as well? What barrels and twist rate have you used and if more than one gun did the load work better in one than the other? I have quite a bit of cast bullet experience but limited to more traditional platforms such as pistols and larger bore rifles such as 45/70,30/06 and 30/30. Years back I did tinker a bit with some mild cast loads for a 25/06 that I had at the time but I have no idea what I was useing for a load. I wasn't trying for any particular power level,just a mild paper punching load. Kind of pushing the envelope in non traditional ways but interesting |
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I asked for factual experience,and I get opinions?????? I'm working with cast right now and YES it is looking promising with a Saeco 221 mold dropping at 225x62,full function,2"@50 yards.No leading,btw the psi that comes through the barrel into the gas tube will clear any lead(if any) that's there...9 cents a round as compared to commercial 40 cents! You need to stop taking things so seriously. Factually few do it as its kind of a hassle for the returns. Factually I reload all day for 15 cents a round, as low as 12 if I get the right stuff on sale. Lot tighter groups then 2" I'll say that for sure. Factually most people run into leading. Lead melts easly, it's a fact not opinion. Fools buy commercial loads at .40 cents a round. Most of my massing of ammo in the last few years was closer to .29 and that's lake city brass. These were the first loads with cast for this platform,I don't feel 2"@50 is too bad to start,and I do take it seriously,don't like sorting through the ignorant, opinionated bullshit! GT27 It's all ignorant, opinionated bullshit. It's an Internet forum. |
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I asked for factual experience,and I get opinions?????? I'm working with cast right now and YES it is looking promising with a Saeco 221 mold dropping at 225x62,full function,2"@50 yards.No leading,btw the psi that comes through the barrel into the gas tube will clear any lead(if any) that's there...9 cents a round as compared to commercial 40 cents! What have you been useing for powder and how much ? Are you just shooting for accuracy or are you getting the action to function as well? What barrels and twist rate have you used and if more than one gun did the load work better in one than the other? I have quite a bit of cast bullet experience but limited to more traditional platforms such as pistols and larger bore rifles such as 45/70,30/06 and 30/30. Years back I did tinker a bit with some mild cast loads for a 25/06 that I had at the time but I have no idea what I was useing for a load. I wasn't trying for any particular power level,just a mild paper punching load. Kind of pushing the envelope in non traditional ways but interesting IMR 4198/16 grains and IMR4895/18 grains+ Saeco 221 mold WW's drop at 225x62,shooting for function first,then accuracy!1-9 twist Stag 3! 2"@50 right now,shoots 4moa 100 with A2 sights. I'm still working on these but don't see it getting much better.This weapon shoots sub moa with 55 grain Hornady J's/17 grains of BLC2.I have a Bator mold also, but never had any luck with it (horizontal strings)???????? Thanks for asking and good luck with yours! GT27 |
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I asked for factual experience,and I get opinions?????? I'm working with cast right now and YES it is looking promising with a Saeco 221 mold dropping at 225x62,full function,2"@50 yards.No leading,btw the psi that comes through the barrel into the gas tube will clear any lead(if any) that's there...9 cents a round as compared to commercial 40 cents! Might be best to go over to castboolits where you'll find good info from them that know what their talking about 
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I asked for factual experience,and I get opinions?????? I'm working with cast right now and YES it is looking promising with a Saeco 221 mold dropping at 225x62,full function,2"@50 yards.No leading,btw the psi that comes through the barrel into the gas tube will clear any lead(if any) that's there...9 cents a round as compared to commercial 40 cents! Might be best to go over to castboolits where you'll find good info from them that know what their talking about I'm a member there,I though this being a AR based forum that more experience using cast in this platform would be obtained by chance here! I was wrong! 
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