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Posted: 11/16/2011 1:38:13 AM EDT
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Has anyone done one yet? I know there has been a test of how well lubes protect against rust, etc, but do not know if there has been one about the gelling properties of assorted lubes, etc/
For folks in arctic climates (like me) or even the guys in montana, wyoming, etc this could be useful. Worst case, I can do a test if you guys would want to help with it. Would have a control (oil put on a specific spot and allowed to flow and distance measured) then test on a cold surface. Finally cold soak the bottles and see how they perform the same test. Currently it is -38f at my house and expected to get colder as always in January or so. (-60f on average for a week) |
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Don't use Slip 2000. It freezes solid in 0F- just ask my freezer.
Their Extreme Weapons Lube didn't freeze in that test. From what I've heard from those in the know (18B's) Sprinco Machine Gunner's Lube and Marvel Custom Gun Oil is the best stuff out there. Not sure if LaRue still includes MGL with their orders. |
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I would think for those temp's you would want a dry lube, graphite or like it, verses a wet oil type lube. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_7/543808_dry_graphite_lube_.html I have a few bottles of extreme cold weather lube that I received from a guy who lives in Fairbanks, he asked me to test it for him and it worked great. It seems to smell like ATF or something... kind looks like ATF mixed with oil.... he is trying to get a patent on this lube and asked that I use it on my AR and see what I thought ... For the most part I use machine gunners lube... I've also had good luck with CLP, down to about -20 below, but lets be honest... I ain't goin shooting if it's colder than -20 below... 
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I would think for those temp's you would want a dry lube, graphite or like it, verses a wet oil type lube. Nope. NEVER use graphite in an AR. EVER! There are lubes out there specifically designed for cold weather. Why people try to use anything other than gun oil in their guns is beyond me. Mobile 1, ATF, WD-40... Why not just get some actual gun lube? |
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Well I have read that graphite is no good,wether thats true I have no idea but what about a dry lube that is teflon,like the Rem DriLube? There is no graphite in it as I understand it..Maybe no dry lubes are sufficient for the AR platform but I do use Rem Dri Lube in my Sons AR22...
Heres what the can says: Instant Dry Spray Lubricant with Teflon Developed by Dupont Proven by Remington.Rem Dri Lube provides smoother,faster firearm action with lowest possible friction.Dries on contact,stays where applied, no oily film to attract foreign matter harmfull to firearms.Excellent for high speed moving parts under a widerange of enviromental conditions.Repels water,will not wash away,minimizes repeat applications..Rem Lube is approved under MIL-L-60326 (MU) Whatever that means... |
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I would think for those temp's you would want a dry lube, graphite or like it, verses a wet oil type lube. Nope. NEVER use graphite in an AR. EVER! There are lubes out there specifically designed for cold weather. Why people try to use anything other than gun oil in their guns is beyond me. Mobile 1, ATF, WD-40... Why not just get some actual gun lube? +1 on the graphite comment. It can actually eat your upper 
In the summer I use mobil 1 though
I'm more curious to see what people claim will work vs what actually flows at those temps. Odds are that I will never be out shooting in that, unless I am doing a january wolf hunt or something. When I have the funds, I am planning on moly coating the inside of the upper and running a NiB bcg to see how well it does. |
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Has anyone done one yet? I know there has been a test of how well lubes protect against rust, etc, but do not know if there has been one about the gelling properties of assorted lubes, etc/ For folks in arctic climates (like me) or even the guys in montana, wyoming, etc this could be useful. Worst case, I can do a test if you guys would want to help with it. Would have a control (oil put on a specific spot and allowed to flow and distance measured) then test on a cold surface. Finally cold soak the bottles and see how they perform the same test. Currently it is -38f at my house and expected to get colder as always in January or so. (-60f on average for a week) The ARMY and USMC did... Can't say if anyone else has. I would assume so. Did you try your HTF ? |
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From TM 9-1005-319-10
EXTREME COLD CLIMATE - ARCTIC (Ch 9) CAUTION Be careful not to accidentally fire your weapon when inserting gloved fingers into trigger guard area. 1. To operate the weapon in extreme cold, depress the trigger guard plunger and open the trigger guard to obtain easy access to the trigger when wearing Arctic mittens. NOTE: Under extreme cold conditions [<-10°F (-23°C)], a small amount of CLP remaining on moving parts can prevent weapon from firing. Ensure CLP is thoroughly removed from weapon and LAW applied prior to extreme cold operations. 2. Cleaning and lubrication should be accomplished inside a warm room and the weapon should be at room temperature, if possible. a. Apply a light coat of LAW to all functional parts. b. To prevent the condensation of moisture and freezing, keep the weapon covered when moving from a warm to a cold area to allow gradual cooling. c. Always attempt to keep the weapon dry. d. Unload and hand function the weapon every 30 minutes to help prevent freezing of functional parts. e. Do not lay a warm weapon directly in snow or ice. f. When moving a cold weapon into a warm place, condensation (moisture) will form in and on your weapon. If possible, leave your weapon in a protected but cold area outside. When the weapon is brought inside a warm place, it should be disassembled and wiped dry several times as it reaches room temperature. g. Keep the insides of magazines and your ammo wiped dry. Moisture will freeze and cause malfunctions. Do not lube the ammo. h. The use of the muzzle cap, protective magazine bag, and an overall weapon cover will help protect your weapon. Use them whenever the tactical situation permits. i. For extended operations in extreme cold, have armorer remove trigger guard. LUBE GUIDE (Ch 16) Under all but the coldest Arctic conditions, CLP or LSA are the lubricants to use on your weapon. Remember to remove excessive lubricant from the bore and chamber before firing. BETWEEN 10°F (-12°C) and -10°F (-23°C): use CLP, LSA or LAW. Below -10°F (-23°C): use only LAW. CLP - Cleaner, lubricant, and preservative LSA -Weapons lubricant oil, semi-fluid LAW - Weapons lubricating oil, arctic Lightly Lubed - A film of lubricant barely visible to the eye. Generously Lubed - Heavy enough so that it can be spread with the finger" I think this manual has been released for public use, so I am quoting it. I trust that the moderators will let me know if this is not the case. Until you get something like LAW, you could probably use just about any weight of Mobil-1 motor oil, or Mobil-1 ATF - they all have very low pour points. 
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More info. from Google search: "LAW - Weapons lubricating oil, arctic"
ARCHIVED THREAD Maintenance & Cleaning>LAW Lubricating oil, weapons, low temp United States Army Alaska Regulation 750-4 Hopefully you can find a source for this, or something else suitable. |
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