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Posted: 7/17/2013 7:07:16 PM EDT
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Ok, I'm a pistol shooter and new to the AR platform so you need to know that up front. Today I shot my brand new Colt 6920'equiped with an Aimpoint Pro for the first time. I kick myself for waiting so long to make the plunge. THIS is fun!
I fired about 150 rounds with no hiccups, got the Aimpoint sighted in as well as the irons. I love that Aimpoint! Here's my question......the trigger seems really rough to me. Scratchy and/or gritty comes to mind. Is that normal? Will it smooth out in time? I realize this isn't a target rifle, but I have no baseline to judge my trigger. Your input is appreciated! |
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It is a standard trigger. Nothing new about a factory standard trigger starting out rough then smoothing out.
A new performance trigger (Geissele) would be a good improvement. http://geissele.com/ |
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Ok, I'm a pistol shooter and new to the AR platform so you need to know that up front. Today I shot my brand new Colt 6920'equiped with an Aimpoint Pro for the first time. I kick myself for waiting so long to make the plunge. THIS is fun! I fired about 150 rounds with no hiccups, got the Aimpoint sighted in as well as the irons. I love that Aimpoint! Here's my question......the trigger seems really rough to me. Scratchy and/or gritty comes to mind. Is that normal? Will it smooth out in time? I realize this isn't a target rifle, but I have no baseline to judge my trigger. Your input is appreciated! Congrats on the rifle purchase. You have just purchased the ultimate AR15 on the market and it will serve you well as it is flawless. Colt produces nothing but pure perfection. Now as to your claims of the rough trigger, you must be mistaken. See above. Colt is the best. If the trigger feels scratchy, I suggest you get a new finger because it certainly is not the rifle 
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It is a standard trigger. Nothing new about a factory standard trigger starting out rough then smoothing out. A new performance trigger (Geissele) would be a good improvement. http://geissele.com/ Indeed, BIG improvment. They dont give those away, but this is a legit example of "you get what you pay for" Congrats on the Colt, very good choice 
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Congrats on the rifle purchase. You have just purchased the ultimate AR15 on the market and it will serve you well as it is flawless. Colt produces nothing but pure perfection. Now as to your claims of the rough trigger, you must be mistaken. See above. Colt is the best. If the trigger feels scratchy, I suggest you get a new finger because it certainly is not the rifle Quoted:
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Ok, I'm a pistol shooter and new to the AR platform so you need to know that up front. Today I shot my brand new Colt 6920'equiped with an Aimpoint Pro for the first time. I kick myself for waiting so long to make the plunge. THIS is fun! I fired about 150 rounds with no hiccups, got the Aimpoint sighted in as well as the irons. I love that Aimpoint! Here's my question......the trigger seems really rough to me. Scratchy and/or gritty comes to mind. Is that normal? Will it smooth out in time? I realize this isn't a target rifle, but I have no baseline to judge my trigger. Your input is appreciated! Congrats on the rifle purchase. You have just purchased the ultimate AR15 on the market and it will serve you well as it is flawless. Colt produces nothing but pure perfection. Now as to your claims of the rough trigger, you must be mistaken. See above. Colt is the best. If the trigger feels scratchy, I suggest you get a new finger because it certainly is not the rifle I MUST be mistaken then thanks for correcting me! I REALLY like the rifle, and no disrespect to other brands, but when I did my research, Colt seemed to be the best choice for my first AR. I'll give my finger a talking to. I'll shoot it a bit more and do some research on triggers mentioned. Thanks! |
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Indeed, BIG improvment. They dont give those away, but this is a legit example of "you get what you pay for" Congrats on the Colt, very good choice Quoted:
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It is a standard trigger. Nothing new about a factory standard trigger starting out rough then smoothing out. A new performance trigger (Geissele) would be a good improvement. http://geissele.com/ Indeed, BIG improvment. They dont give those away, but this is a legit example of "you get what you pay for" Congrats on the Colt, very good choice Suggestions on which model trigger? |
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Quoted: Suggestions on which model trigger? Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It is a standard trigger. Nothing new about a factory standard trigger starting out rough then smoothing out. A new performance trigger (Geissele) would be a good improvement. http://geissele.com/ Indeed, BIG improvment. They dont give those away, but this is a legit example of "you get what you pay for" Congrats on the Colt, very good choice Suggestions on which model trigger? Since you are new to the platform, I would recommend the SSA. The SSA-E is the next step up with a lighter trigger pull but it is not a starting point - especially if you are new to semi-automatic rifles. If you are price sensitive, you could also go with an ALG ACT trigger - made by a spin-off from Geissele and about $ 100 cheaper. http://www.algdefense.com/ |
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Since you are new to the platform, I would recommend the SSA. The SSA-E is the next step up with a lighter trigger pull but it is not a starting point - especially if you are new to semi-automatic rifles. If you are price sensitive, you could also go with an ALG ACT trigger - made by a spin-off from Geissele and about $ 100 cheaper. http://www.algdefense.com/ Quoted:
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It is a standard trigger. Nothing new about a factory standard trigger starting out rough then smoothing out. A new performance trigger (Geissele) would be a good improvement. http://geissele.com/ Indeed, BIG improvment. They dont give those away, but this is a legit example of "you get what you pay for" Congrats on the Colt, very good choice Suggestions on which model trigger? Since you are new to the platform, I would recommend the SSA. The SSA-E is the next step up with a lighter trigger pull but it is not a starting point - especially if you are new to semi-automatic rifles. If you are price sensitive, you could also go with an ALG ACT trigger - made by a spin-off from Geissele and about $ 100 cheaper. http://www.algdefense.com/ Thanks for the suggestions. I was thinking the SSA-E would not be agood choice for me to start with...thanks for confirming! |
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"Thanks for the suggestions. I was thinking the SSA-E would not be agood choice for me to start with...thanks for confirming!" NEGATIVE! I was not confirming an SSA-E. That level of trigger and above should only be used AFTER you have 5,000+ rounds downrange. Or if you have 2,000 plus downrange on a comparable bolt action rifle with a 3.5 pound or lighter trigger. This is not just a recommendation for your safety but the safety of others as well. Do some research through the threads on this subject. A light trigger pull has led to a lot of accidental discharges by people who were too casual about it as an "upgrade". |
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It is a standard trigger. Nothing new about a factory standard trigger starting out rough then smoothing out. A new performance trigger (Geissele) would be a good improvement. http://geissele.com/ Indeed, BIG improvment. They dont give those away, but this is a legit example of "you get what you pay for" Congrats on the Colt, very good choice Suggestions on which model trigger? Since you are new to the platform, I would recommend the SSA. The SSA-E is the next step up with a lighter trigger pull but it is not a starting point - especially if you are new to semi-automatic rifles. If you are price sensitive, you could also go with an ALG ACT trigger - made by a spin-off from Geissele and about $ 100 cheaper. http://www.algdefense.com/ Thanks for the suggestions. I was thinking the SSA-E would not be agood choice for me to start with...thanks for confirming! Look into the G2S from Geissele as well. Same feel and weight as the SSA but the hammer pin is different and the trigger is not laser engraved. Excellent vaule for a trigger. |
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"Thanks for the suggestions. I was thinking the SSA-E would not be agood choice for me to start with...thanks for confirming!" NEGATIVE! I was not confirming an SSA-E. That level of trigger and above should only be used AFTER you have 5,000+ rounds downrange. Or if you have 2,000 plus downrange on a comparable bolt action rifle with a 3.5 pound or lighter trigger. This is not just a recommendation for your safety but the safety of others as well. Do some research through the threads on this subject. A light trigger pull has led to a lot of accidental discharges by people who were too casual about it as an "upgrade". You misunderstood, I was AGREEING with your point about NOT going with the SSA-E....... |
| I dont know much about special triggers but I would stick with stock it will smooth out.If your gonna use it as it should be for how its made as a self defense possible combat rifle then you dont want a 3lb trigger and im not sure about the triggers mentioned but at least get something that wont break down under hard use.My philosophy is that a mechanical break down that causes an accidental discharge is just that an accident ....everything else is what I call a negligent discharge. |
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"Thanks for the suggestions. I was thinking the SSA-E would not be agood choice for me to start with...thanks for confirming!" NEGATIVE! I was not confirming an SSA-E. That level of trigger and above should only be used AFTER you have 5,000+ rounds downrange. Or if you have 2,000 plus downrange on a comparable bolt action rifle with a 3.5 pound or lighter trigger. This is not just a recommendation for your safety but the safety of others as well. Do some research through the threads on this subject. A light trigger pull has led to a lot of accidental discharges by people who were too casual about it as an "upgrade". It only takes a second to realize that the trigger is light - if you practice basic firearms safety you should never have a problem with the SSA-E.You can't run around with it like it's a trigger on a DA/SA pistol though with your finger on it. It's like one of those prosthetic arms - yo can shoot it just by turning your wrist. I would probably recommend the SSA or the G2S as well, but if you shoot from a bench and your rifle is relegated as a range toy, (and you practice safe firearms handling, meaning you keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to destroy something), there is no reason to ignore the SSA-E as an option. If you're noticing the nuances of the factory Colt trigger, you probably are shooting from a supported position most of the time, so a light trigger may be the ticket. A lot of people think you should get used to the standard before you move on to the exception, but it's your rifle, and depending on what you're doing with it and what you're trying to achieve, so keep in mind that conventional wisdom is just that - convenient. It's in no way a one size fits all solution. With that being said, if all you're worried about is the smoothness, the ALG trigger will take care of you I presume. CMMG trigger packs are usually much smoother than the factory Colt triggers. Your Colt trigger will still be gritty after 1,500 cycles if you plan on shooting it out for most people that means they will still have a gritty trigger in 2020. |
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The SSA-E is not dangerous. I don't know where this bullshit starts, but the SSA-E is a lot heavier than some stock bolt action triggers.
Bottom line, if you don't mean to kill whatever the rifle is pointed at, then you keep your finger indexed and off the trigger....basic firearms safety, folks. |
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The SSA-E is not dangerous. I don't know where this bullshit starts, but the SSA-E is a lot heavier than some stock bolt action triggers. Bottom line, if you don't mean to kill whatever the rifle is pointed at, then you keep your finger indexed and off the trigger....basic firearms safety, folks. Agreed, I personally run a SD3G. |
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It is a standard trigger. Nothing new about a factory standard trigger starting out rough then smoothing out. A new performance trigger (Geissele) would be a good improvement. http://geissele.com/ This is the best money you'll spend^ |
| If the trigger does not feel right I would contact Colt and send it to them and they will look at your rifle. The bad news could be that Colt may charge you for shipping both ways. Don't accept it is what it is.... Most on here believe Colt is the King of Kings with ARs... Let them fix it... Congratulation on the new rifle... |
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If the trigger does not feel right I would contact Colt and send it to them and they will look at your rifle. The bad news could be that Colt may charge you for shipping both ways. Don't accept it is what it is.... Most on here believe Colt is the King of Kings with ARs... Let them fix it... Congratulation on the new rifle... There's nothing for Colt to fix, all of the stock triggers feel gritty. OP, as others have mentioned check out Geissele. If you want a home/self defense trigger the Super Semi-Automatic (SSA) or the G2G is the way to go. They are a two stage combat trigger. They are manufactured very well so you won't have to fret over it breaking. Yes everything can break but so far I've never broken any of my SSA and I shoot thousands of rounds and I'm not at the bench. If you haven't already I suggest you check out the Geissele site and watch some of the videos. There is one that explains all of the Geissele triggers and what they are intended for. |
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I have two Colt 6920. One has a very crisp and clean trigger but heavy. The other has a gritty but light trigger. You could try purching Colt trigger parts and switching them out. It could make an improvement. It's easy to do, and it's good to have spare parts.
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Really bad advice OP. Find a trigger you like and learn to love it the SSA-E is a great trigger and like posted above if you exercise proper use of your rifle and keep your finger off the bang switch till you are ready to fire with any trigger you will never have a problem.
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Since you are new to the platform, I would recommend the SSA. The SSA-E is the next step up with a lighter trigger pull but it is not a starting point - especially if you are new to semi-automatic rifles. If you are price sensitive, you could also go with an ALG ACT trigger - made by a spin-off from Geissele and about $ 100 cheaper. http://www.algdefense.com/ Quoted:
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It is a standard trigger. Nothing new about a factory standard trigger starting out rough then smoothing out. A new performance trigger (Geissele) would be a good improvement. http://geissele.com/ Indeed, BIG improvment. They dont give those away, but this is a legit example of "you get what you pay for" Congrats on the Colt, very good choice Suggestions on which model trigger? Since you are new to the platform, I would recommend the SSA. The SSA-E is the next step up with a lighter trigger pull but it is not a starting point - especially if you are new to semi-automatic rifles. If you are price sensitive, you could also go with an ALG ACT trigger - made by a spin-off from Geissele and about $ 100 cheaper. http://www.algdefense.com/ Quoted:
"Thanks for the suggestions. I was thinking the SSA-E would not be agood choice for me to start with...thanks for confirming!" NEGATIVE! I was not confirming an SSA-E. That level of trigger and above should only be used AFTER you have 5,000+ rounds downrange. Or if you have 2,000 plus downrange on a comparable bolt action rifle with a 3.5 pound or lighter trigger. This is not just a recommendation for your safety but the safety of others as well. Do some research through the threads on this subject. A light trigger pull has led to a lot of accidental discharges by people who were too casual about it as an "upgrade". |
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Quoted: Agreed, I personally run a SD3G. Quoted: Quoted: The SSA-E is not dangerous. I don't know where this bullshit starts, but the SSA-E is a lot heavier than some stock bolt action triggers. Bottom line, if you don't mean to kill whatever the rifle is pointed at, then you keep your finger indexed and off the trigger....basic firearms safety, folks. Agreed, I personally run a SD3G. The bullshit starts with poor reading comprehension and is augmented by overconfidence. I said nothing about the SSA-E being dangerous. I said it is not recommended for noob's to the platform and semi-automatic weapons. If YOU believe someone with zero experience will be perfectly safe by observing off-the-cuff "basic firearms safety" .... then YOU are the danger. As I recommended to the OP - do some RESEARCH through the threads on this topic over the years. There have been a lot of warnings, first hand experiences and "lessons learned" posted regarding the risks of putting a light trigger pull under the finger of someone who is new to AR-15's. Meanwhile, keep your "internet couch commando, I can give Seal Team Six a run for their money" attitudes in check because the potential for an accidental discharge is not something a responsible gun owner casually dismisses. |
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throw a Geissele or ALG trigger in there and fogettaboutit
ALG ACT Trigger Geissele Automatics Industry Forum ask em any questions you have about their triggers -here. |
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OP, I suggest you look into a set of JP yellow springs for your Colt trigger. I used a set on mine, and it took the pull weight from 8+ pounds, down to about 5 pounds. It made the stock Colt trigger much better IMHO, and it's a $10 upgrade. Geissele triggers are awesome, I have since upgraded to their SSA model in my Colt, and passed the Colt + JP yellow combo on to the Wife's AR. While swapping to a G trigger like the SSA would also be a great choice, if ~$200 is not in the budget right now, the JP yellows will make due until you are ready to upgrade to a better trigger.
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Normal, I agree with those who say shoot it a bunch before changing triggers.
Would *not* attempt any kind of "trigger job" involving filing, sanding, or stoning, however there is a method where you put some polishing compound where the sear and hammer meet and dry fire it a log, then clean the compound out and go shoot it some more. I learned the hard way about trying to do my own work on stock single stage triggers. One turned out ok, waiting on new parts to fix the other one, heh... |
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Before you drop $200 on a new trigger, I suggest lubing all engagement surfaces and pins in the FCG and dryfiring a lot. You might find that the stock trigger isn't as bad as it is now.
There are two main schools of thought when it comes to triggers, optics, and other gear that helps make hits: A. The "train tougher to build fundamentals" crowd B. The "use whatever is available to help you" crowd. A thinks that training with heavier triggers, iron sights, etc. help build fundamentals so that when you transition to better gear after a base is built (X rounds, every suggestion of which is ENTIRELY ARBITRARY) you are better able to take advantage of the upgrades without ingraining poor habits. B says to use whatever you can to more easily make hits out of the box. I think that a combination of the two is the best approach but there is no way to define that so you need to be honest with yourself. It helps to use objective measurements (timer, accuracy standards) or have an observer critique you. |
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Before you drop $200 on a new trigger, I suggest lubing all engagement surfaces and pins in the FCG and dryfiring a lot. You might find that the stock trigger isn't as bad as it is now. There are two main schools of thought when it comes to triggers, optics, and other gear that helps make hits: A. The "train tougher to build fundamentals" crowd B. The "use whatever is available to help you" crowd. A thinks that training with heavier triggers, iron sights, etc. help build fundamentals so that when you transition to better gear after a base is built (X rounds, every suggestion of which is ENTIRELY ARBITRARY) you are better able to take advantage of the upgrades without ingraining poor habits. B says to use whatever you can to more easily make hits out of the box. I think that a combination of the two is the best approach but there is no way to define that so you need to be honest with yourself. It helps to use objective measurements (timer, accuracy standards) or have an observer critique you. dookie1481: I like your reasoning! Fundamentals first. Irons vs. optics, stock vs. upgrades....makes a lot of sense, thanks..... |
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