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11/20/2004 8:30:32 AM EDT
I know practically nothing about AR15s, but at the last gun show, I picked up a Colt AR15, Model AR6721, LEO marked.  It was brand new and I was wondering if anyone could tell me the good, bad, and ugly about this particular model. Also, if you can give me a price range for these.

-=BDD=-
11/20/2004 10:09:49 AM EDT
[#1]
I've had one for years, it runs very well, and it has been through more than a few schools, and more than a few drills.  As a duty carbine it has held up very well, until I recently rebuilt it into another configuration.  Mine has been involved in hundred of building searches, and numerous situations where armed suspects have been encountered .  

It has only ever had a problem once, and that was a failure to chamber a round.  Of course that was also the time that a guy was jumping out of his car screaming that he was going to kill me, but I digress, because that is why God created immediate action drills.

If you look, it should have the M4 feed ramps, and while it doesn't have the current M4 profile that seems to be "all the rage", it will do everything you ask it to.

Here's a pic of mine, let me know if you have any questions I can help with.





11/20/2004 4:54:12 PM EDT
[#2]
All I can say is if you picked it up at a show without knowing anything at all about them - it was either a very, very good deal or your a rich man :)

The LEO Colt Carbines are pretty hot right now.  The demand is high and supply is low.

As for prices - a decent retail price would be around $1000 for a NIB 6721.  But with all of the histeria alot of dealers are marking these guns up to $1500 and more.

Colt makes several LEO carbines. (all have collapbsible stock and 16" barrells w/suppressor and bayo lug)

AR6520 - AR15/A2 "Government Model" carbine - light "pencil" barrell
AR6721 - AR15/A3 Tactical Carbine - Heavy barrell, A3 removable handle
LE6920 - Law Enforcement Carbine M4A3 configuration
AR6450 - 9mm Carbine

Theoretically they should all be priced within a few dollars of each other around $1k NIB but as I said that has been thrown out the window lately.

I recently have paid $990 for a 6920 and $1100 for a 6520 - both NIB.  At the gunshow today in Mesquite Texas there was one dealer (the aforementioned on this board Bauchman Pawn) with 7 AR6721s for $1495.  By the time I left around 4pm they had sold 2.

There was another fellow there with 2 used AR6721s.  One had a Colt M4A3 Upper assembly (LE6920) put on it - $1100.  The other was an early 6721 and was priced $950.  Don't know why those 2 that bought the NIBs didn't get it instead.  I would have.  Sure it had some scuffs and had been used, but at $550 less than the gougers were asking, I could live with them.

Interestingly at this show there were quite a few Bushy M4A3 carbines - hadn't seen one in awhile.  And I can't say that I noticed that a single one sold.  Price on them was $950-$1000 depending on the table it was on.

There were also a few Colt MT6400Cs which is the neutered "civilian" version of the LE6920.  These were all around $1050.

Earl
11/20/2004 7:53:35 PM EDT
[#3]
BDD, I haven't owned a Colt but for a few days (an LE6920) so I can't speak from experience, but you can read something written by a number of guys with a LOT of experience around ARs that will help you understand how well you did with your purchase...which was very well, IMO.

Click this link to read the thread.  It starts to drift about 3/4 of the way towards the bottom, so you don't have to read the whole thing.

I hope this helps.

E. R.
11/22/2004 1:10:14 AM EDT
[#4]
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/ru1096/P1010025.jpg

This one is mine. Its a fine rifle. I trust my life to it everyday. You can't go wrong with the 6721.
11/22/2004 2:11:34 AM EDT
[#5]
The 6721 is a great rifle I've had one for many years, some speculate that they'll be collectible pieces in the future as everyone has been grabbing the 6920's after the awb sunset.  The 6721 along with the 6450 jave been around for some time, there were 134 or so produced as actual; prebans and they used to command huge prices like 10k per rilfe.  I always wondered if anyone paid that much?  Although I doubt anyone did I'm sure there were some crazy prices paid.  Before the 6920 the 6721's price was about $630.00 for an individual officer price while the 6450(9mm) was cheaper coming in at slightly over $600.00.  In the years around 1999-2000 there was a price increase that took these rifles near the $800.00 mark  where they have stayed.  Currently the 6721 is at around $800.00 while the 6920 ranges from $820-$870.00.  These prices are from distributors to dealers, then dealers may tack on whatever they want.  When I first purchased these models they were on direct letterhead to the distributors so you were able to cut out the middleman dealers.  I also purchased some directly from Colt at a huge savings like $400.00 per rifle.  They had been sent on a T&E program, (Test & Evaluation).  When the ban dropped I speculated that alot of these older guns would be sold as Officers would make some money from guns they purchased years before, watch the EE board and you'll see some selling used at a decent price.  Good luck with your purchase.
11/22/2004 3:38:58 AM EDT
[#6]
concerning the 6721, AR-15 A3 Tactical Carbine 1 of 134.., what makes those carbines so valuable is that only a small handfull are still NIB, no one knew at the time that only 134 would be civvie legal, therefore any pre ban A3 Tactical still NIB is a valuable investment.., same as the "Colt AR-15 Colt Carbine", they were made (1616) for export only, after Bubba signed a non-export bill less than 200 of those guns remained in this country, the next most valuable AR-15 is the 6530 Leo/Mil/Export Only, less than 100 of those are in existance !
11/22/2004 3:51:07 AM EDT
[#7]
I've got a 6721 serial range 002XXX without the LEO markings, I've heard conflicting reports that these had a higher value than a marked rifle because they slipped out as an LEO but remained unmarked, although not as high as one of the sacred 134,

anybody know anything about these unmarked LEO rifles?

I've had this rifle for years and it runs very well, I like it better that my 6520's and have 2 more newer 6721's, one of the best Colts made in my opinion
11/22/2004 9:13:27 AM EDT
[#8]
Slightly more value to someone who really cares, but not much either way.  There were people who wanted them during the AWB as they thought they were "grey" market guns.  Everytime I've seen them sold, it was for basic AR15A3 Tactical Carbine prices.
11/22/2004 11:37:41 AM EDT
[#9]
Why not the Bushmaster Hbar carbine. Same rifle but mil spec and alot cheaper. Quality is better on the Bushmaster too.

Just me unbiased opinion.
11/22/2004 11:51:32 AM EDT
[#10]
Yes but in the final analysis when it comes to sell/trade time nothing compares to a Colt.  I've walked alot of gunshow isles toting PWAs, SGWs, Olympics, Bushy's, EAs, and others.   If I was given a $1 for every time I was asked if each of them was a Colt, I wouldn't have needed to sell them! :)

Earl
11/22/2004 12:44:10 PM EDT
[#11]
If you buy weapons to sell them later, that is an important point.  You will pay more now, and IF prices don't return to normal, you will make more later.

If you pay more now, and prices do return to normal, you are never going to recover your losses.
11/22/2004 1:04:04 PM EDT
[#12]

Same rifle but mil spec and alot cheaper. Quality is better on the Bushmaster too.

How exactly is a Bushmaster more "milspec" than this Colt?

I'm anxiously awaiting your reply
11/22/2004 4:16:51 PM EDT
[#13]
I've had mine for about 7 years now and have only had 1 ammo related malfunction.  Mine is set up with a Aimpoint, Surefire M500, and a CCH rear sight.

Wouldn't trade it for anything.

Oz
11/22/2004 4:36:05 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:

Same rifle but mil spec and alot cheaper. Quality is better on the Bushmaster too.

How exactly is a Bushmaster more "milspec" than this Colt?

I'm anxiously awaiting your reply



CJan:  I too am anxiously awaiting a reply, but you might need an axe handle.   Good shooting to you guys....even those who like Bushys better!  
11/22/2004 5:04:16 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
concerning the 6721, AR-15 A3 Tactical Carbine 1 of 134.., what makes those carbines so valuable is that only a small handfull are still NIB, no one knew at the time that only 134 would be civvie legal, therefore any pre ban A3 Tactical still NIB is a valuable investment.., same as the "Colt AR-15 Colt Carbine", they were made (1616) for export only, after Bubba signed a non-export bill less than 200 of those guns remained in this country, the next most valuable AR-15 is the 6530 Leo/Mil/Export Only, less than 100 of those are in existance !



I agree that some will like the idea of these being preban, but once the awb was gone anyone could own the restricted version which is the same rifle and thus reducing the value of those earlier 6721's.  I don't believe many of those original 134 6721's were ever fired as the distributors knew what they had and the original dealers made money right from the first sale.
11/23/2004 5:25:26 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Same rifle but mil spec and alot cheaper. Quality is better on the Bushmaster too.

How exactly is a Bushmaster more "milspec" than this Colt?

I'm anxiously awaiting your reply hr


CJan:  I too am anxiously awaiting a reply, but you might need an axe handle.   Good shooting to you guys....even those who like Bushys better!  hr



Can someone spell it out for me, cuz I'm a nooblet.  Colt 6721s are milspec, right?
11/23/2004 12:34:40 PM EDT
[#17]
No they are not.  They are not full auto, nor do they have the correct trigger/ hammer pins.  

Don't get wrapped up with the MilSpec issue, the only people carrying MilSpec weapons are the guys who are still in.
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