Colt Vs. Bushmaster > AR Discussions

Posted: 7/23/2006 11:16:52 AM EDT

the highs, the lows, the similarities people! and why for one second is a BM AR better than a colt?

-AR addict

Posted: 7/23/2006 11:18:53 AM EDT

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Posted: 7/23/2006 11:21:49 AM EDT

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no opinion?

Posted: 7/23/2006 11:26:04 AM EDT

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Go put on your flame sute......

Bushmaster

Posted: 7/23/2006 11:26:46 AM EDT

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There are about 8 MILLION threads with everyone's opinion.
try the search button for a bit...

Posted: 7/23/2006 11:28:08 AM EDT

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Posted: 7/23/2006 11:28:54 AM EDT

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Go put on your flame sute......hmaster

Posted: 7/23/2006 11:29:28 AM EDT

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chevy vs ford

Posted: 7/23/2006 11:31:37 AM EDT

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chevy vs ford

no comment.....joining chevy vs. ford convo is like joining crips from birth and crips after birth, JUST STAY OUT OF IT!

Posted: 7/23/2006 11:43:37 AM EDT

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The best one is the one you'll be happy you got. If you *believe* there might be some reason why a Colt (or BM) is better than the other, then get that one and don't look back.

K

Or get one now, and the other one later. Then sell the one you like least to me at a deep discount.

Posted: 7/23/2006 12:04:47 PM EDT

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The best one is the one you'll be happy you got. If you *believe* there might be some reason why a Colt (or BM) is better than the other, then get that one and don't look back.

K

Or get one now, and the other one later. Then sell the one you like least to me at a deep discount so i can sell it to osama bin-laden.

i have a colt im getting another AR and i just wanted to make sure BM isnt a piece of wasted crap before i get one.

Posted: 7/23/2006 12:10:29 PM EDT

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Watching with finger on lock button....

Posted: 7/23/2006 12:17:06 PM EDT

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If you are looking for that much general information, you may want to start by doing a search, or just reading more threads.

The easiest answer to your question is that there are different materials, as well as more testing and QC involved in Colt.

Posted: 7/23/2006 12:19:07 PM EDT

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If you are looking for that much general information, you may want to start by doing a search, or just reading more threads.

The easiest answer to your question is that there is different materials, as well as more testing and QC involved in Colt.

yeah your right.....im going with colt!

Posted: 7/23/2006 12:27:44 PM EDT

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BM is more mil spec and is less expensive.

Colt has street cred and is owned by a anti gunner.

BM can't be carried on duty, but the parts are interchangable with all other milspec parts including M-16.

Colt is owned by a antigunner and I wouldn't give them my money. They are leading the way with "lock up your safty devices". But I would still say get them both and see which one you like the best. They are comparing apples and apples. The gas piston AR's seem like a whole new animal for the AR's if you are going to compare something ask are colts and BM anything like the Gas piston uppers as far as reliability and accuracy?

Posted: 7/23/2006 12:28:51 PM EDT

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Posted: 7/23/2006 12:29:30 PM EDT

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Ok....

Posted: 7/23/2006 12:30:15 PM EDT

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BM is more mil spec and is less expensive.

Colt has street cred and is owned by a anti gunner.

BM can't be carried on duty, but the parts are interchangable with all other milspec parts including M-16.

Colt is owned by a antigunner and I wouldn't give them my money. They are leading the way with "lock up your safty devices". But I would still say get them both and see which one you like the best. They are comparing apples and apples. The gas piston AR's seem like a whole new animal for the AR's if you are going to compare something ask are colts and BM anything like the Gas piston uppers as far as reliability and accuracy?

thank you! see people this is exactly what i was looking for.....different people weighing the ups and downs with no final opinion. thanks again!

Posted: 7/23/2006 12:41:57 PM EDT

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BM is more mil spec and is less expensive.

Colt has street cred and is owned by a anti gunner.

BM can't be carried on duty, but the parts are interchangable with all other milspec parts including M-16.

Colt is owned by a antigunner and I wouldn't give them my money. They are leading the way with "lock up your safty devices". But I would still say get them both and see which one you like the best. They are comparing apples and apples. The gas piston AR's seem like a whole new animal for the AR's if you are going to compare something ask are colts and BM anything like the Gas piston uppers as far as reliability and accuracy?

thank you! see people this is exactly what i was looking for.....different people weighing the ups and downs with no final opinion. thanks again!

Posted: 7/23/2006 12:46:25 PM EDT

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Also I own a Bushy xm-15 and I love it. The heavy barrel isn't threaded but I can do amazing groups with it even with less than great ammo like wolf. It gets dity clean it and you are golden again. And its about $300 less than Colt. But get whatever you can afford. Just make sure that your are buying a no ban rifle if they are charging full price.

I just don't like the offset pins that colt puts out. And the block of metal in the back even though it doesn't matter still sucks because its one more thing telling us that MG's are that much more out of reach. Also they are the ones that originally came up with cutting the end off the bolt carrier. The "colt cut" goes all the way out the back and cuts the weight down so much that it might not have the momentum that the rest of the weight provides.? Maybe I don't like the Colt at all. But Sam Colt is turning in his grave if he knew what was happening to his name.

Posted: 7/23/2006 12:49:52 PM EDT

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sounds awesome the XM anyways...

Posted: 7/23/2006 12:56:09 PM EDT

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Get both, I own both and no body parts have fallen off and nothing turned into a pupkin at midnight.

Posted: 7/23/2006 12:56:16 PM EDT

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Posted: 7/23/2006 12:59:48 PM EDT

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if i get one more of these damn things!!!!!

Posted: 7/23/2006 1:03:49 PM EDT

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Posted: 7/23/2006 1:04:49 PM EDT

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If you are looking for that much general information, you may want to start by doing a search, or just reading more threads.

The easiest answer to your question is that there are different materials, as well as more testing and QC involved in Colt.

That is why I went with a Colt for my first AR and now am building my second...

Mike

Posted: 7/23/2006 1:07:00 PM EDT

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yeah have your gay cow eating parties......hese!!!!!!!!!
Edited:i type-o'd and typed 50,00

Posted: 7/23/2006 1:07:51 PM EDT

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yeah have your gay cow eating parties......

i meant if i get 50,00 more of these!!!!!!!!!

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Posted: 7/23/2006 1:09:22 PM EDT

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yeah have your gay cow eating parties......hese!!!!!!!!!

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ok 4 or 5 guys are whipping and eating cows beside each other how is it now a cow eating party?

Posted: 7/23/2006 1:10:05 PM EDT

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it's bye-bye time.

Posted: 7/23/2006 1:11:25 PM EDT

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Posted: 7/23/2006 1:16:33 PM EDT

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Bushmaster-Great rifles
Colt-Great Rifles
Dpms-Great Rifles
RRA-Great Rifles
Oly-Great Rifles
Essentail-WOW, nice prices!
I missed a bunch, (S&W, Stag, CMT, Ameetec) They are all really great rifles!

WOW, I missed the gun that is with me 24/7,,my AR10A4CB,,What a gun!!!!!

Posted: 7/23/2006 1:17:48 PM EDT

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I like them both. I have not had a Colt in years and just got a BM. I am happy with it.

Posted: 7/23/2006 1:19:40 PM EDT

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BM is more mil spec

Does Bushmaster MP test every bolt and barrel?

Does Bushmaster shot peen every bolt?

Does Bushmaster properly stake their gas keys?

Does Bushmaster properly heat treat and harden every component?

Does Bushmaster use a mil-spec receiver extension?

Does Bushmaster use M4 feedramps?

Does Bushmaster use F height front sight bases on their carbines?

Does Bushmaster parkerize under their front sight bases?

Does Bushmaster still use sparkly parkerizing?

Hammer and trigger pins do not a mil-spec rifle make. Materials, tolerances, and processes do. Bushmaster is more inconsistent in quality, but more available. Generally, if you get a good one, it'll be a good one. Their priority is getting rifles out the door. QC is done by the buyer. Ever wonder why they have such a great service department?

Posted: 7/23/2006 1:25:58 PM EDT

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Posted: 7/23/2006 1:26:09 PM EDT

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Posted: 7/23/2006 1:27:52 PM EDT

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Posted: 7/23/2006 1:29:22 PM EDT

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BM is more mil spec

Does Bushmaster MP test every bolt and barrel?

Does Bushmaster shot peen every bolt?

Does Bushmaster properly stake their gas keys?

Does Bushmaster properly heat treat and harden every component?

Does Bushmaster use a mil-spec receiver extension?

Does Bushmaster use M4 feedramps?

Does Bushmaster use F height front sight bases on their carbines?

Does Bushmaster parkerize under their front sight bases?

Does Bushmaster still use sparkly parkerizing?

Hammer and trigger pins do not a mil-spec rifle make. Materials, tolerances, and processes do. Bushmaster is more inconsistent in quality, but more available. Generally, if you get a good one, it'll be a good one. Their priority is getting rifles out the door. QC is done by the buyer. Ever wonder why they have such a great service department?

After 1,200 rounds the gas key on my Bushy came unstaked.

Posted: 7/23/2006 1:29:29 PM EDT

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Posted: 7/23/2006 1:30:00 PM EDT

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yeah have your gay cow eating parties......

i meant if i get 50,000 more of these!!!!!!!!!

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guess you need clarification:

its a HORSE

just to stick to the topic: disregarding personal preference, money, and customer service, Colt is the name to stick w/ for the AR brand that that is "more mil-speced" and quality tested for LEO/Mil; h/w, i like Bushmaster

ETA: i dont think you want me to copy and paste this 50K times....

Posted: 7/23/2006 1:30:00 PM EDT

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still not 50,000 so idc

Posted: 7/23/2006 1:30:38 PM EDT

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Sick of seeing the Bushy/Colt comparison but heres my take.I own only Bushmaster carbines 3 one that started out as a 20" model. but did have a Colt 6601 at one time..it was actualy my first AR.And my rifles still hold value because we are still a ban state and pre 94 rifles still command a premium here.

Colt MP tests individual parts Bushy tests a few samples from a lot say barrels and Bolts for instance.

Colt uses F marked FSBs that will zero a flat top carbine properly Bushy does not and should include the .040 higher front post or use an F height FSB.

Colt parkerizes the barrel before FSB is installed Bushy does not resulting in 2 silver rings on the barrel when FSB is removed not a problem but for what you pay it can be done right.

Colt uses aluminum trigger guards Bushy does not

Colt puts M4 handguards on carbines Bushy does not

Colt puts on a side sling adapter Bushy does not

Colt puts in an H buffer and uses a forged mil-spec diameter telestock extension Bushy does not

Colt uses an xpower extractor spring standard on carbines Bushy does not

Bushy has the right size fire control parts Colt does not

in my opinion especialy with Bushy goin up on prices they should be adding more standard extras...I never had a problem with Bushy barrels or Bolts so the individula MP tests on parts are up for debate.Although it gives more piece of mind and any part will break or wear out regardless of testing indivdualy or not.

For the money the H buffer,aluminum trigger guard,M4 handguards and side sling swivel,F marked base or higher post should be standard.I like the commercial diameter telestock as those are more prevailent so to me its not an issue.

My only pet peve with Colt is the odd ball FCG diameter.My next rifle when I move to Texas will be a CMMG rilfe with soccom barrel and they MP inspect like Colt does and have all design upgrades for the M4 ill just have to get a mil-spec type 2 telestock and that rifle will be good to go out of the box.And whatever barrel you choose for $1000.

for what you spend on a Bushy you shouldnt have to invest all that exra money just to have things that should already be there.When I bought my Bushies in the preban days I paid $900 a piece for them and there were parts and assemblies not available or in use at the time like H buffers and M4 handguards but now a days if there gonna charge more give more as well.

I think the best model for the money and value would be a Bushy full size A2 other wise the more popular carbines should come with more standard items.On a full size all you would have to do is change the trigger guard.

Posted: 7/23/2006 1:31:56 PM EDT

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Sick of seeing the Bushy/Colt comparison but heres my take.I own only Bushmaster carbines 3 one that started out as a 20" model. but did have a Colt 6601 at one time..it was actualy my first AR.And my rifles still hold value because we are still a ban state and pre 94 rifles still command a premium here.

Colt MP tests individual parts Bushy tests a few samples from a lot say barrels and Bolts for instance.

Colt uses F marked FSBs that will zero a flat top carbine properly Bushy does not and should include the .040 higher front post or use an F height FSB.

Colt parkerizes the barrel before FSB is installed Bushy does not resulting in 2 silver rings on the barrel when FSB is removed not a problem but for what you pay it can be done right.

Colt uses aluminum trigger guards Bushy does not

Colt puts M4 handguards on carbines Bushy does not

Colt puts on a side sling adapter Bushy does not

Colt puts in an H buffer and uses a forged mil-spec diameter telestock extension Bushy does not

Colt uses an xpower extractor spring standard on carbines Bushy does not

Bushy has the right size fire control parts Colt does not

in my opinion especialy with Bushy goin up on prices they should be adding more standard extras...I never had a problem with Bushy barrels or Bolts so the individula MP tests on parts are up for debate.Although it gives more piece of mind and any part will break or wear out regardless of testing indivdualy or not.

For the money the H buffer,aluminum trigger guard,M4 handguards and side sling swivel,F marked base or higher post should be standard.I like the commercial diameter telestock as those are more prevailent so to me its not an issue.

My only pet peve with Colt is the odd ball FCG diameter.My next rifle when I move to Texas will be a CMMG rilfe with soccom barrel and they MP inspect like Colt does and have all design upgrades for the M4 ill just have to get a mil-spec type 2 telestock and that rifle will be good to go out of the box.And whatever barrel you choose for $1000.

for what you spend on a Bushy you shouldnt have to invest all that exra money just to have things that should already be there.When I bought my Bushies in the preban days I paid $900 a piece for them and there were parts and assemblies not available or in use at the time like H buffers and M4 handguards but now a days if there gonna charge more give more as well.

I think the best model for the money and value would be a Bushy full size A2 other wise the more popular carbines should come with more standard items.On a full size all you would have to do is change the trigger guard. perfect-o again and thanks!

Posted: 7/23/2006 1:32:42 PM EDT

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This guy (kid?) is a text book troll. Here is another example:

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=4&f=64&t=88319

Posted: 7/23/2006 1:33:46 PM EDT

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For best thread ever on the AR platform go here, read the posts especailly by OZI. Here is a person who really puts his gun to the test.

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=2&f=38&t=149279

Posted: 7/23/2006 1:34:15 PM EDT

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This guy (kid?) is a text book troll. Here is another example:

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=4&f=64&t=88319

roger that...

Posted: 7/23/2006 1:37:33 PM EDT

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This guy (kid?) is a text book troll. Here is another example:

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=4&f=64&t=88319

wkie i started the post titled AR-15 in the AK section for not really a reason...but here im professional so shut up dude

Posted: 7/23/2006 1:38:14 PM EDT

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For best thread ever on the AR platform go here, read the posts especailly by OZI. Here is a persom who really puts his gun to the test.

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=2&f=38&t=149279 www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=2&f=38&t=149279

oh and thanks ill check the link out in a sec maybe its good...

Posted: 7/23/2006 1:39:18 PM EDT

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This guy (kid?) is a text book troll. Here is another example:

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=4&f=64&t=88319

+1 on the troll call.

Posted: 7/23/2006 1:39:45 PM EDT

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wkie i started the post titled AR-15 in the AK section for not really a reason...but here im professional so shut up dude

Hence, you are a troll boy.

and Ekie is the last person you should tell to shut up.
He's forgoten more than you'll ever know...

Posted: 7/23/2006 1:40:14 PM EDT

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