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Posted: 9/13/2006 2:35:23 AM EDT
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Has anyone heard anything about the Corbon .223 53 Gr. DPX? They claim it penetrates car doors. It uses the Barnes Triple Shock X-Bullet. Check out the Corbon Site at the bottom of the Page. www.dakotaammo.net/products/corbon/dpx.htm 
DocGKR, have you done any testing on this ammo? I will be purchasing some to test out the accuracy. |
| Corbon DPX ammo is some very good ammo and I'm willing to bet that the .223 is also but if you want ammo for penetrating car doors I don't think there is anything better than .223 62gr TAP Barrier. I have looked at some test they have done on different mediums and I was extremely impressed. This stuff goes right through steal and still has plenty of velocity to kill. If you would like some stats on it let me know and I will post them |
Sure, post whatever data you have, but are you refering to the Hornady 60 Gr. TAP barrier or the Federal 62 Gr Bonded ammo? I just figured the Corbon would be a hell lot more accurate that the other ones since the Hornady and Federal are Soft Points. Thanks Paul |
Perhaps you meant 62-gr. Federal TBBC (Trophy Bonded Bear Claw) for barrier penetration? The Hornady 60-gr. Varmint Bullet is completely different and I too would like to know how the all copper 53-gr. Barnes bullet performs. Since copper is much lighter than lead, the OAL of this 53-gr. projectile is probably similar to a 69-gr. Sierra HPBT and it should be fairly accurate. At over $25 per box of 20, this Corbon loaded ammo isn't cheap. |
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I haven't seen much data on projectiles which are lightweight but non-fragmenting. I wonder if it will make minimum penetration depth. Even if it does, I'd rather have a bullet that: 1) Fragments, and 2) Is cheaper As far as penetration through cars is concerned - I guess I just don't worry about it. |
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When Hornady was experimenting with barrier loads, one of the first it created was a Hornady TAP 60gr barrier. Its terminal performance after encountering front autoglass was good, but penetrating short of 12" @ around 9-10" if I remember correctly. Hornady redesigned their TAP barrier load this time using a 62gr projectile. It is not the Speer/Federal/ATK Trophy Bonded Bear Claw projectile. I am sorry to say that based on Hornady's own test data, the performance is quite disappointing after encountering barriers such as front autoglass. Federal's 55gr and 62gr .223 loads based on their Trophy Bonded Bear Claw projectiles have yet to be surpassed for terminal performance after encountering barriers. If I have ever seen data for the Corbon load you mention, I do not remember it off hand. That means one of two things. I never saw it or I saw it and it was unremarkable and I basically ignored it after reading its results once. |
| I am planning on contacting Corbon to see if they have any tests on the ammo. I think this ammo is relatively new and that is why there is little information on it. I know the bullet has been out for a while, but I never heard of any company actually making ammo using the bullet. I would definitely not consider this ammo regular duty ammo, especially at the price they are asking. I want to see what the LE price is and see if it is worth getting a couple of boxes. |
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the round I'm talking about is from Hornady and it's part of their TAP line. At first it was loaded with a 60gr barrier bullet but now it is loaded with a 62gr barrier bullet. The round was designed to shoot through steel doors in power plants and stll be terminal on the other side. I don't have time to post the stats right now but I will later tonight. |
Ok. Sorry I was confused because I recently picked up a box of the Hornady 60 Gr TAP Barrier for $10 for a box of 25. Haven't shot it yet though. I guess I got some of the old stuff. |
10 FOR 25 ????? where did ya get it that cheap? linky please.. |
Man, that is CHEAP!!! Willing to share your source? I bet we can sell them out in 10 minutes or less! |
I went to an Outdoorman's place in Succassuna,NJ to purchase some 55 and 60 Gr. TAP and when I got in there I saw the boxes of the 60 Gr. TAP barrier there for $10 so I bought a box also. So I paid $10 for the TAP barrier, $20 for a box of 55 Gr TAP and $20 for a box of the 60 Gr TAP. So I really didn't make out on the deal. He had about 6 more boxes of the TAP barrier left, I didn't feel like buying any more. My AR loved the 60 Gr TAP though. |
Paul, is your barrel a 1/9 twist? That is what I have and the 60 gr was very accurate out of mine. I only shot 1 box (20 rounds) but it was a very nice group at about 70 yards. |
I have a 16" wilson 1x8 Wylde Chamber that I got from Adco.com |
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I have used the Barnes X Bullet, the Barnes XLC, and the Barnes Triple Shock and they are all great bullets. On one buck I shot with the Barnes XLC, I hit him just at the point where the neck meets the shoulders, he was facing directly at me, and the bullet traveled alongside the spine, cutting thru all the ribs, exiting out at the top of the rear ham. The total distance of bullet travel was 42 inches. I was using a 25-06 with Federal factory loads with 100gr Barnes XLC bullets. I know that is not a true test, but the shot was about 60 yds and I still got that much penetration and was not able to find the bullet laying on the ground around the deer. I have shot the Corbon DPX load in my RRA Varmint rifle and in my rifle they are very accurate, groups just under an inch at 100 yds. At the same range, there were steel plates at 75 yds that were hanging on hinges. I shot these plates with the Corbon DPX load and they completely penetrated the steel on each shot. I also shot the plates with Hornady 40 gr VMax and Lake City M193. The VMax rounds were leaving lead smears on the plate and would occasionally leave a dent. That same thing with the M193, only the dents were a deeper. I would think that the Corbon DPX load should zip right thru a car door with no problem what so ever. Check out some articles by Chuck Taylor, he is a huge proponent of the Barnes bullets and has done some testing already on shooting the Barnes bullets. In a few of the articles of his that I have read, he has shot car doors, windshields, side windows, all with targets placed behind the objects to check not only penetration, but bullet path deviation. Or you could go to the junkyard, buy a door and shoot it yourself from various ranges to see the penetration potential. |
Thanks for the info. |
| Try this tread from Stopping Power - Test Bed - Corbon .223 53gr. DPX |
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here is some of the info on the 62gr TAP Barrier weapon: Bushmaster 14.5" and 1/9 twist Bare, Car Door, Fire Door, Safety Glass, Wallboard Velocity: 2,676 2,700 2,684 2,693 2,647 Total pen: 16.50" 15.00" 12.00" 6.00" 13.00" entry: .25" .00" .00" .00" .00" Depth max 4.75" 4.25" 3.00" 3.25" 3.00" cavity: Max Temp 5.25" 5.50" 5.25" 4.50" 5.75" Cavity: Retained 35.9 gr 45.9 gr 35.6 gr 21.5 gr 35.9gr weight: % Frag: 42% 26% 43% 65% 42% maxium performance range 225 yards for all SORRY GUYS I TRIED TO MAKE IT SO ALL THE NUMBERS WOULD BE UNDER EACH TEST MEDIUM BUT IT DIDN'T COME OUT THAT WAY. |
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