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10/31/2012 9:12:01 PM EDT
Newbie who recently bought a Stag Model 3. Before taking it to the range, I did what I always do with a new gun - strip, remove any excess factory lube, and clean. Read a post here where someone commented how much factory lube they found in the buffer, and had to clean it. Here's my problem - I can't get the buffer out. Yes, I push back on it slightly and depress the retaining pin, but trying to pull the buffer out is a fail. I'm afraid to pull too hard, for fear of damaging the spring.

Am I doing something wrong here? Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks.
10/31/2012 9:21:05 PM EDT
[#1]
Quoted:
Newbie who recently bought a Stag Model 3. Before taking it to the range, I did what I always do with a new gun - strip, remove any excess factory lube, and clean. Read a post here where someone commented how much factory lube they found in the buffer, and had to clean it. Here's my problem - I can't get the buffer out. Yes, I push back on it slightly and depress the retaining pin, but trying to pull the buffer out is a fail. I'm afraid to pull too hard, for fear of damaging the spring.

Am I doing something wrong here? Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks.


Pull harder.

10/31/2012 9:25:54 PM EDT
[#2]
If you look at the buffer you should see three flats machined along the outer edge. Try rotating the buffer so one of those flats lines up with the retainer. If you manage to get the buffer past the retainer, go ahead and pull on it with some force. You shouldn't damage the spring since the buffer is not captive inside the spring and will pop out before you do any damage.
10/31/2012 9:25:56 PM EDT
[#3]
DO NOT Pull.  The buffer spring is willing to push it out faster than you could want if allowed.  Turn the buffer so that the FLAT portion is pushing on the retaining pin.  Take the pressure off the pin like you did, but this time use something very skinny to depress the pin, and at the same time let the spring push the buffer and spring out some.  You can then wiggle the spring out without the pin being depressed.  My guess is you didnt depress the pin far enough and/or used to thick of a tool.  Try a very small flat head screwdriver.....the kind for fixing eye glasses....or the tip of a knife, layed sideways of course.  No other reason for this problem that i've ever heard of.
10/31/2012 9:41:23 PM EDT
[#4]
with the retainer down the buffer should come out on its own.
10/31/2012 10:46:03 PM EDT
[#5]
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with the retainer down the buffer should come out on its own.

Exactly.  Push down the retainer and it will no longer be retained.  Previously mentioned suggestions to align one of the "flats" on the side of the buffer might be helpful.
11/1/2012 5:20:14 AM EDT
[#6]
If I just push the buffer into the tube a little bit and then depress the retainer with the tip of my knife the buffer will pretty much remove itself due to the spring pressure once I stop holding it back.
11/1/2012 11:59:55 AM EDT
[#7]
Thanks for all the info. As soon as I get the chance, will try again.
11/1/2012 3:37:56 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
DO NOT Pull.  The buffer spring is willing to push it out faster than you could want if allowed.  Turn the buffer so that the FLAT portion is pushing on the retaining pin.  Take the pressure off the pin like you did, but this time use something very skinny to depress the pin, and at the same time let the spring push the buffer and spring out some.  You can then wiggle the spring out without the pin being depressed.  My guess is you didnt depress the pin far enough and/or used to thick of a tool.  Try a very small flat head screwdriver.....the kind for fixing eye glasses....or the tip of a knife, layed sideways of course.  No other reason for this problem that i've ever heard of.


And the winner is... Thanks, John, as you hit the nail on the head.Tried your suggestion and it worked like a charm. Can't believe it was that simple, and I just missed it the first time. Maybe I should stay away from any involved projects for awhile.    

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