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Posted: 11/6/2014 1:28:52 PM EDT
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are you guys happy with them? I have a recon and it shoots very well. 1/4 MOA at 100 yards. It's a recon. But it's a tad heavy. Is the upgrade worth it? LOL.....is it an upgrade?
Like to know from you guys that have purchased a Gen II, what do you think? (if you own one and have shot it) Only reason I'm considering selling mine is that a buddy may want it. I'll then be looking for something new. |
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I suppose if you can sell the one you have for decent money, then it might be worth it, but if you aren't using it all the time, not sure the differences would make it worth switching.
I like my GII Recon, they've got some teething problems (IMO) but thus far, flawless in operation when fed proper ammo. I have not had a chance to wring it out in the accuracy department. Also, aftermarket support is not yet real deep, hopefully that starts changing. |
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I suppose if you can sell the one you have for decent money, then it might be worth it, but if you aren't using it all the time, not sure the differences would make it worth switching. I like my GII Recon, they've got some teething problems (IMO) but thus far, flawless in operation when fed proper ammo. I have not had a chance to wring it out in the accuracy department. Also, aftermarket support is not yet real deep, hopefully that starts changing. Thanks for your report. I'd be replacing it with a recon II. Proper ammo. I reload most everything I use, so I have a variety of options. The accuracy part is what I'm after. I'd hate to get something worse than what I have with a trade off of 2 Pounds. But then again, I could trade to the same rifle I have now and their could be variances. Maybe it's early for people to give real accuracy examples. |
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If you are genuinely getting 1/4 MOA right now, I would keep that rifle. I have always regretted selling super accurate rifles. You rolled the dice and won bigtime with that kind of accuracy, and you will always miss the special relationship you feel with a rifle that treats you like that.
There are things you can do to put it on a diet, without touching the barrel and upper receiver relationship. If you are an accuracy nazi like me, then keep it and look at lightening it. The newer DPMS Recons (not GII) are surprisingly well-balanced. Also, there are a lot of positive reports throughout the variants section on the GII Recon, with several examples of where people installed MI or Sampson handguards on them. Did you see those? |
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I own a G2 AP4 and have no complaints. Honestly though, it's pretty much been a safe queen to this point as my priorities are elsewhere at the moment. If I were in your shoes, with a G1 Recon and looking for reliable accuracy...I'd be looking hard at the "12" that is in the works from ARPerformance. Build an upper to your specifications and leverage your existing lower.
The draw of the G2 is in the weight savings and handling characteristics, not necessarily inherent accuracy. Based on reputation and his track record with previous and existing offereings, it's a pretty good bet that the ARP "12" will be a tack driver and fill that happy medium between accuarcy and manueverability. I wouldn't completely dismiss the DPMS G2, but with your existing platform, you're already half way to a "12" in a platform you're already comfortable with. |
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If you are genuinely getting 1/4 MOA right now, I would keep that rifle. I have always regretted selling super accurate rifles. You rolled the dice and won bigtime with that kind of accuracy, and you will always miss the special relationship you feel with a rifle that treats you like that. There are things you can do to put it on a diet, without touching the barrel and upper receiver relationship. If you are an accuracy nazi like me, then keep it and look at lightening it. The newer DPMS Recons (not GII) are surprisingly well-balanced. Also, there are a lot of positive reports throughout the variants section on the GII Recon, with several examples of where people installed MI or Sampson handguards on them. Did you see those? I did. I'll be honest, I've never taken a rail off a 308, I was going to see what needed to be done on mine to get a different rail. I've done plenty on 223 and 300 blackout. |
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I did. I'll be honest, I've never taken a rail off a 308, I was going to see what needed to be done on mine to get a different rail. I've done plenty on 223 and 300 blackout. Quoted:
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If you are genuinely getting 1/4 MOA right now, I would keep that rifle. I have always regretted selling super accurate rifles. You rolled the dice and won bigtime with that kind of accuracy, and you will always miss the special relationship you feel with a rifle that treats you like that. There are things you can do to put it on a diet, without touching the barrel and upper receiver relationship. If you are an accuracy nazi like me, then keep it and look at lightening it. The newer DPMS Recons (not GII) are surprisingly well-balanced. Also, there are a lot of positive reports throughout the variants section on the GII Recon, with several examples of where people installed MI or Sampson handguards on them. Did you see those? I did. I'll be honest, I've never taken a rail off a 308, I was going to see what needed to be done on mine to get a different rail. I've done plenty on 223 and 300 blackout. Another reason to look at the "12" and the use of standard AR15 forends/rails. However, it's pretty straight forward on the G2 as well with the appropriate tools and correct components. |
| At least on the GII, hand guard change requires vise, aluminum barrel blocks, leather, and the barrel nut wrench. I could check, but bought all that (other than vise) from Midway, DPMS parts except the leather. IIRC, the barrel nut wrench was ~$40, and the blocks were ~$20. |
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