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Posted: 12/24/2009 10:54:00 AM EDT
| Looking at getting one from a local gun shop, new for $949. Anyone have much experience with this model? Any idea of what type of accuracy to expect out of 16in barrel? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks |
Yes I think this is an excellent price 
I have an AP4 LR 308 and this rifle is awsome !!!!! By far a very accurate and easy handling 308 carbine. I bought mine when the prices were a lot higher,get them while you can. One downside is what kind of ammo are you using ?? comercial 308 loads are fine so is some brands of surplus. If you have a lot of surplus to run through an FAL may be what you want.This effect has not been seen in all AP4's in 308 out there but it has happened. This is caused by the very tight chamber,which contributes to excellent accuracy. Later John |
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Have any of you used the cproducts mags? Mag quality, availability, and price is always a concern for me when considering a new rifle platform. I have C mags but Buy Magpul Pmags they are great and all I'm going to buy from now on. They are currently under $19 ea. 
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I HAVE ONE, LOVE IT. SOMETIMES THEY ARE VERY PARTICULAR ON WHAT THEY WILL SHOOT. I USE WINCHESTER 180 GRS PP AND SILVER STATE 175 GRS M118 LR. TWO THINGS, GET A GOOD TRIGGER ( BILL SPRINGFIELD ) HE DOES A GREAT JOB. 2) MAGPUL 20LR 762X51 MAGAZINES. FTF PROBLEMS FROM YOUR MAGS WILL GO AWAY.
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| As far as mags, I've never had any issues with the DPMS mags, and all of mine will hold 20 rounds. Call 44mag.com, and you can get the DPMS ones cheap. I've also never had issues with surplus ammo of any kind, but I try to stay away from the ones listed in the back of the manual. the only problems I ever had were due to hand loads that were loaded with Lee dies, and insufficient lubrication early on. I switched to RCBS small base dies to cure the hand loading problem, and to Disotech XFR for the lube. I've had zero failures since switching to the XFR. You can literally lube it up with this stuff and go shoot several hundred rounds and the gun will still be wet and well lubed. Slicker than owl shit. |
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What type stock did you go to? I was wondering if an LMT SOPMOD would work? The DPMS 308's use a standard AR buffer tube. It will be a commercial tube diameter but any aftermarket stocks that fit that tube will work. If you want to use a SOPMOD you would have to put a mil-spec tube on it. It would take a standard AR mil-spec buffer tube, nothing special. DPMS uses a shorter buffer to allow the use of standard AR tubes. I love my AP4 (and my SASS). I chose DPMS when I decided to get into the 308 AR market and I've never looked back. Both guns function very well and are very accurate. I just got 20 of the new Pmags for them too! I upgraded to the JP trigger when I ordered my AP4 so I can't speak to the stock trigger but all accounts seem to say that the trigger is a necessary upgrade. |
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I have and Ap4 and love it.
As far as mags, there was a bad run of DPMS mags. If they jam often, you can get them replaced as the correctly manufactured ones rarely jam. Right now, I have my loaded up with: Tango Down QD Foregrip Eotech 516 HS Magpul MS2 Sling Magpul MIAD (You do lose some of the functionality of this, since its designed for a smaller platform) The 20 round P-Mag is downright sexy. I will upgrade mine to with a RRA trigger and new stock in the future. They fixed the mag issue for me right away, so that shouldn't dissuade you. The only con I see is they are a little picky on ammo and the trigger does have a long pull. |
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