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1/6/2008 8:19:09 AM EDT
Does anyone know if the DPMS receiver claw puts too much stress on the front and rear pin holes when applying the force needed to remove/install a barrel?  I'm trying to decide which type to buy, a Bushmaster type or the claw.  It seems that the DPMS would be versatile for any type of recevier, A2, flat top, etc, but I'm concerned about altering the pin holes with stress.  Thanks  
1/6/2008 9:21:50 AM EDT
[#1]
I own the claw and swear by it!  It's the cats meow!!! I've barreled several rifles with it and no problems. You are only tourqing to about 30-35lbs, and that ain't much, Considering a Chevy head bolt gets about 90 foot pounds. I say get one!!!!!!!!!!
1/6/2008 10:05:02 AM EDT
[#2]
The pin holes aren't the only thing taking the force. The upper portion of the claw fits snuggly inside the upper receiver. I'm not sure how much force it would take to actually move or brake that upper portion, but it would be way more than you should have to use when tightening the barrel nut.

I have used it a few times and I'm very pleased with it. I also have a small vise that may or may not have fit the bushmaster action block.
1/6/2008 10:08:25 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
It seems that the DPMS would be versatile for any type of recevier, A2, flat top, etc, but I'm concerned about altering the pin holes with stress.  Thanks  

If you're concerned about it, just put it in the vise sideways with a block of wood to protect the top rail.
1/6/2008 10:15:20 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
I own the claw and swear by it!  It's the cats meow!!! I've barreled several rifles with it and no problems. You are only tourqing to about 30-35lbs, and that ain't much, Considering a Chevy head bolt gets about 90 foot pounds. I say get one!!!!!!!!!!


You may be required to torque to as much as 80 to get the gas tube holes to line up. IMO, it would be better to get the Bushmaster, but thats just me.

The receiver acts as a lever since the attachment point of the claw.is smaller than the part you are torquing down, so that 80ft lbs of torque is translated into more like 100ft lbs being placed on the two lugs of the upper.

Thats alot of force.
1/6/2008 10:50:29 AM EDT
[#5]
Its what DPMS uses at the factory on all their uppers. I have one and would not use anything else. Its also on sale right now at the DPMS website

Looks like the sale is over. They were 28 bucks

www.dpmsinc.com/store/products/?prod=1675&cat=1814
1/6/2008 7:58:23 PM EDT
[#6]
It looks like there is plastic that sits up in the upper receiver so all the pressure is not on the pins.

Im going to order one ... would be helpful for the bench.  AR Armorers wrench also on sale.
1/6/2008 8:39:36 PM EDT
[#7]
It's the best of any of them out there IMHO.  I don't use the clamp-style one anymore.  No sign of stress on the holes at all.
1/7/2008 3:45:02 AM EDT
[#8]
I've broken a few barrel wrenches working on uppers in the claw and never have damaged an upper.

They are good to go in my book.
1/7/2008 7:11:26 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Its what DPMS uses at the factory on all their uppers. I have one and would not use anything else. Its also on sale right now at the DPMS website

Looks like the sale is over. They were 28 bucks

www.dpmsinc.com/store/products/?prod=1675&cat=1814


We missed it by one day.
1/7/2008 8:39:35 AM EDT
[#10]
Of course, you could always resort to installing your barrels the way the armed forces service manuals tell you to---by clamping the barrel and not the reciever.

That way you eouldn't have to worry about breaking lugs, or more commonly, the completed job shooting way to the right; because the barrel locating pin dug into left side of the slot during the (incorrect) method of mounting the barrel.

But hey, what do I know? Only been working on ARs and M16s since 1976

If y'all want to spend $15-$20 more on a piece of injection molded plastic, than on a pair of aluminum vise jaws, why should I try to stop you?
1/7/2008 9:39:35 AM EDT
[#11]
Well I guess that does it. The 120 uppers that I assembled with the DPMS claw are all junk and all the DPMS factory uppers are also no good. Thanks for the update on how the military does it.
1/7/2008 9:45:28 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
Of course, you could always resort to installing your barrels the way the armed forces service manuals tell you to---by clamping the barrel and not the reciever.

That way you eouldn't have to worry about breaking lugs, or more commonly, the completed job shooting way to the right; because the barrel locating pin dug into left side of the slot during the (incorrect) method of mounting the barrel.

But hey, what do I know? Only been working on ARs and M16s since 1976

If y'all want to spend $15-$20 more on a piece of injection molded plastic, than on a pair of aluminum vise jaws, why should I try to stop you?


When installing a FF hand guard you need to sneak up on TDC and test fit the rail to make sure it is lined up with the receiver rail. That would be a big PITA doing it with barrel blocks. Based on the torque I've applied to the lugs, I wouldn't worry.

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