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Posted: 10/24/2016 9:22:41 PM EDT
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Does anyone have experience, either good or bad, with the Daniel Defense DD5V1 .308/7.62?
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My only experience was with the price tag. I just bought an Armalite Def10 yesterday for the same reason your looking I imagine....
Receiver lower to upper was better than most AR15's I have, including a (registered) preban Colt SP1. I was surprised how light it was unloaded, but then again no optics. The barrel has material removed to take most of the weight off. The truth will be told when it goes hot on the line.... |
| I think they have great gear but a high price tag, I have a buddy that runs one and he loves it. He hasn't had a hiccup with it yet. I am waiting to see what comes out of the ak operators union with the one they are testing. At that price tag I would end up getting a lwrci di but that's just me and I have nothing bad to say against the Daniel. |
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I agree. All their rifles are overpriced. $1800 for a V11 tornado. Wow. $1600 for a V7. I just built me a mid length hammer forged 15" M-Lock rifle for $1200. And $2700 for a .308 ? No thanks. The $1850 on my Pws is a way better buy. This. $2700 and it better come with a free Nightforce or two. There are much better options for much less. |
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Quoted: I agree. All their rifles are overpriced. $1800 for a V11 tornado. Wow. $1600 for a V7. I just built me a mid length hammer forged 15" M-Lock rifle for $1200. And $2700 for a .308 ? No thanks. The $1850 on my Pws is a way better buy. Lol you need better gunstores  |
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I agree. All their rifles are overpriced. $1800 for a V11 tornado. Wow. $1600 for a V7. I just built me a mid length hammer forged 15" M-Lock rifle for $1200. And $2700 for a .308 ? No thanks. The $1850 on my Pws is a way better buy. Lol you need better gunstores 
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I agree. All their rifles are overpriced. $1800 for a V11 tornado. Wow. $1600 for a V7. I just built me a mid length hammer forged 15" M-Lock rifle for $1200. And $2700 for a .308 ? No thanks. The $1850 on my Pws is a way better buy. Lol you need better gunstores Hell yeah. The shop I work at part time has DD5's going for a little over $2300. I don't own a DD5 myself, but I get the opportunity fairly often to fire them. Compared to several other brands of .308 ARs I've handled, ( POF, Ruger, PWS ) the DD5 feels a bit lighter and handier, yet has an utterly solid feel. I love how easy the BCG is to clean after a range session. The Geissele trigger is also a nice touch. If I was in the market for a .308 AR, I'd readliy snag up a DD5. |
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I just picked one up for a little over $2,500. I find that price to be fair given the features it comes with: ambi controls, Geissele trigger, nice 15" keymod rail, coated bolt, only 8.3 pounds, not to mention Daniel Defense's reputation and warranty. I haven't tested mine for accuracy yet but if you read the reviews floating around it looks like a winner in that department.
My initial impression is that it's a very nicely built rifle. The ball detent charging handle is a nice design but feels a bit odd at first. It is also a little stiff right now so I hope it loosens up some with use. I did not care for the DD grip or buttstock so those have already been replaced. I also replaced the factory muzzle device with a Silencerco brake to mount my Saker762. I also ordered a Leupold Mark 6 3-18 to top it, though it has not arrived yet. Ought to be a nice setup! |
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DDV5V1
What I like about the DDV5V1 is that it has some innovative ways of dealing with the problems of the AR10, namely the gas system. They elongated the cam pin path, while solving the ejector pin retention challenge when you do that, without copying LMT's enhanced bolt and carrier. You can tell that they went all out on Research, Development, Test, and Evaluation, to include a lengthy live-fire, high volume test regimen across a fleet of rifles for well over a year last I heard. They really wanted the gun to work, more importantly than anything. |
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Quoted: DDV5V1 What I like about the DDV5V1 is that it has some innovative ways of dealing with the problems of the AR10, namely the gas system. The elongated the cam pin path, while solving the ejector pin retention challenge when you do that, without copying LMT's enhanced bolt and carrier. You can tell that they went all out on Research, Development, Test, and Evaluation, to include a lengthy live-fire, high volume test regimen across a fleet of rifles for well over a year last I heard. They really wanted the gun to work, more importantly than anything. Yep. I thin DD has a V5 with something stupid crazy like 100k rounds before they even released it to make sure it was top notch |
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This. $2700 and it better come with a free Nightforce or two. There are much better options for much less. Quoted:
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I agree. All their rifles are overpriced. $1800 for a V11 tornado. Wow. $1600 for a V7. I just built me a mid length hammer forged 15" M-Lock rifle for $1200. And $2700 for a .308 ? No thanks. The $1850 on my Pws is a way better buy. This. $2700 and it better come with a free Nightforce or two. There are much better options for much less. What do you think is a better option for less money in reference to 308? Just curious. |
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I agree. All their rifles are overpriced. $1800 for a V11 tornado. Wow. $1600 for a V7. I just built me a mid length hammer forged 15" M-Lock rifle for $1200. And $2700 for a .308 ? No thanks. The $1850 on my Pws is a way better buy. Lol you need better gunstores 
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| People will slam me. But I bought a Windham .308 2 years ago with a 15" Midwest rail. $1250. Very lightweight. Eats everything I have put in it. Probly not as accurate as DD, but it will hang round for round in a carbine class. Does a better barrel and bolt carrier worth $13-1400 more dollars ??? |
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People will slam me. But I bought a Windham .308 2 years ago with a 15" Midwest rail. $1250. Very lightweight. Eats everything I have put in it. Probly not as accurate as DD, but it will hang round for round in a carbine class. Does a better barrel and bolt carrier worth $13-1400 more dollars ??? It's priced to compete in the .308 market and it's priced competitively. Its rivals are mostly kac, lmt, scar, larue. When you look at those companies cost the dd is very reasonably priced. Personally I think it's fugly |
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People will slam me. But I bought a Windham .308 2 years ago with a 15" Midwest rail. $1250. Very lightweight. Eats everything I have put in it. Probly not as accurate as DD, but it will hang round for round in a carbine class. Does a better barrel and bolt carrier worth $13-1400 more dollars ??? Well first off, $1200 is a little more realistic number, at least around here. With some patient searching on Gunbroker, I even found a damn near new DD5 going for about $1700. Then, along with a MUCH better barrel, MUCH better BCG, add to the list: ambi-controls, a Geissele trigger, a MUCH more robust over all rifle and a kick-ass warranty, yes, I'd say it's worth it. If anyone has doubts about the robustness of the DD5/Ambush .308 series of DD rifles, just do a You Tube search for 'Freedom Munitions blew up my Ambush'. This title is rather mis-leading since only one small part, ( the extractor ) was actually damaged, but BCGs are a complete item and replaced as such. This is just one of the many examples posted by DD customers of their rifles experiencing an ammuntion failure and DD taking care of them. The piece of mind I get from knowing that A. ) if I were to ever have a dramatic/catastrophic ammunition failure in a DD rifle, I know the rifle has the toughness to largely shrug it off and protect me and B. ) DD will readily take care of the issue and have me back up and running, is well worth the price. |
| I shot one back in the spring and it was nice, they had swapped out the DD muzzle device for a lantac and put a vortex 1-6 strike eagle. It was easy hitting steel at 400 yds. the SSA is nice but I like the SSA-E I put in my 901 better. It is lightweight and handy. I'm not a fan of DD furniture but that's an easy swap. |
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Quoted: I shot one back in the spring and it was nice, they had swapped out the DD muzzle device for a lantac and put a vortex 1-6 strike eagle. It was easy hitting steel at 400 yds. the SSA is nice but I like the SSA-E I put in my 901 better. It is lightweight and handy. I'm not a fan of DD furniture but that's an easy swap. DD furniture blows |
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Might want to check out rob skis video on the v11 and how the rail and barre nut shifted just from a few drops. Doesn't look very robust to me OP asked about the DD5V1 308, which has a totally different rail / lockup than the DDM4V11. That test, while interesting, has no bearing on this discussion. |
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OP asked about the DD5V1 308, which has a totally different rail / lockup than the DDM4V11. That test, while interesting, has no bearing on this discussion. Quoted:
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Might want to check out rob skis video on the v11 and how the rail and barre nut shifted just from a few drops. Doesn't look very robust to me OP asked about the DD5V1 308, which has a totally different rail / lockup than the DDM4V11. That test, while interesting, has no bearing on this discussion. Quite right. I know haters are gonna hate, but give it a rest, bob. We all know you're the self appointed town crier for DD hate spewing, but when you can't even get the right rail system/rifle model straight before you start running off at the mouth, it makes you look even more pathetic. You've had your say in this thread and now you're not even contributing to answering the OP's question. |
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Quite right. I know haters are gonna hate, but give it a rest, bob. We all know you're the self appointed town crier for DD hate spewing, but when you can't even get the right rail system/rifle model straight before you start running off at the mouth, it makes you look even more pathetic. You've had your say in this thread and now you're not even contributing to answering the OP's question. Quoted:
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Might want to check out rob skis video on the v11 and how the rail and barre nut shifted just from a few drops. Doesn't look very robust to me OP asked about the DD5V1 308, which has a totally different rail / lockup than the DDM4V11. That test, while interesting, has no bearing on this discussion. Quite right. I know haters are gonna hate, but give it a rest, bob. We all know you're the self appointed town crier for DD hate spewing, but when you can't even get the right rail system/rifle model straight before you start running off at the mouth, it makes you look even more pathetic. You've had your say in this thread and now you're not even contributing to answering the OP's question. What would this thread do without your great input ? |
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Might want to check out rob skis video on the v11 and how the rail and barre nut shifted just from a few drops. Doesn't look very robust to me OP asked about the DD5V1 308, which has a totally different rail / lockup than the DDM4V11. That test, while interesting, has no bearing on this discussion. Quite right. I know haters are gonna hate, but give it a rest, bob. We all know you're the self appointed town crier for DD hate spewing, but when you can't even get the right rail system/rifle model straight before you start running off at the mouth, it makes you look even more pathetic. You've had your say in this thread and now you're not even contributing to answering the OP's question. What would this thread do without your great input ? Aaaand your experience with a DD5 is......? It's ok.. I'll wait. 
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Quoted: I'm just thrilled the gun panic is over. Now these companies can sell guns for a fair price and not get so rich off the people that take care of them ! Yeah... There was no panic there... They sell the guns for what they are worth. I'm sorry if you can't afford one but you really don't know what you are talking about |
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Yeah... There was no panic there... They sell the guns for what they are worth. I'm sorry if you can't afford one but you really don't know what you are talking about Quoted:
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I'm just thrilled the gun panic is over. Now these companies can sell guns for a fair price and not get so rich off the people that take care of them ! Yeah... There was no panic there... They sell the guns for what they are worth. I'm sorry if you can't afford one but you really don't know what you are talking about I can't afford one ? Lol. You don't know much about Kansas farm families |
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